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Not surprised to read PAD’s statement to the effect of Marvel probably not paying attention to fans’ hand-wringing. A shop here informed me that they had ordered extra copies of a specific issue, yet still sold out on the first day and that was that because “Marvel doesn’t take re-orders.” Well, la-de-da. Makes me glad I buy almost no titles [yes, F.A. being an exception] any more.
“Marvel’s pretty happy with female solo mutant books, ie Mystique and Emma Frost.”
But are the fans?
A friend has always found the Frost character interesting and he’s spitting nails at how they’re screwing her up in the dismal EMMA FROST title, ignoring (so he says) much of her established back story. Not to mention the mousy brunette not looking ANYTHING like the statuesque blonde who was the White Queen. What? She telepathically exchanged bodies with someone (her high school rival, perhaps)? Isn’t there some sort of law against that? At the very least she should have someone take her to task about it if it happens. Not to mentionher behaving in a manner not at all consistent with the very competent, intelligent character we know she’s supposed to be.
“Peter David fans looking for a replacement series for CAPTAIN MARVEL should pick up SOULSEARCHERS AND COMPANY.”
Love to. But, as I discovered when I tried finding a copy of the one with the League of Incidental Individuals, that book doesn’t seem to be making it into Canada. :p
I really hate to see this great series go. 🙁 I will continue to support Fallen Angel, which is AWESOME. Marv’ has always been one of my favorite titles and I looked forward to it every month. I am really sad to see that it is leaving.
No, Vic Chalker was the little guy who electrocuted himself with his own battle suit. Ðìçk Chalker was the mutant dinosaur who called himself Carnivore, IIRC. Both are dead, but so was Purple Man.
My nerdery is unchallenged.
Ben
Its a sad day in Muddville.
I am really going to miss Captain Marvel, but the good news is a Hulk series written by PAD. Please, Please, Please do a story with the Maestro I loved that character. And a sure fire way to sell out every issue would be to have George Perez come on board the project. Good luck with your future projects Peter.
Regards:
Warren S. Jones III
Hopefully, the mutant books will star Quicksilver. PAD nailed him during his X-FACTOR run, and as the son of Marvel’s mutant Osama bin Laden, there’s potential for a really cutting edge series. I’d love to see QS teamed with Val Cooper to fight terrorist threats. Sort of like 24’s Jack Bauer on speed…
Since Marvel is dropping Captain Marvel, would it be possible for DC to bring Peter in to do a monthly SHAZAM comic? 🙂
I believe Jeff Smith (BONE) is working on this now.
Travis
PAD,
Man watchin another of your books get the boot, really sucks. I do have faith in you man, I know Rick and Marlo will be there in your new HULK book…they have to be. Marvel should just sign the rights over to you. Your continuing take on the whole Rick and Marlo storyline was my main reason for buying CM all along.
As for the “Mutant,” I seem to recall a mini- series called “Fallen Angels” a late 80’s Marvel Mutant joke……there was a couple of Lobsters, Multiple Man, Devil Dinosaur, and Warlock and Sunspot if my memory serves. I’m thinkin you can be writing Fallen Angel for DC and Fallen Angels for Marvel….why not?
Ok maybe not, but even if your new Series is based on the adventures of a Blue Lobster ….I’ll be there.
Thanks for yet another great book, that “the powers that be” dont have the brains to see.
Quote”Peter David fans looking for a replacement series for CAPTAIN MARVEL should pick up SOULSEARCHERS AND COMPANY.”
Love to. But, as I discovered when I tried finding a copy of the one with the League of Incidental Individuals, that book doesn’t seem to be making it into Canada. Unquote
I’m in Canada and have been getting it for years thru my comic book store.
I had to change stores because the one before the one I go to now told me ‘we can’t get it in’. So went to the new one…and they got it no problem. Some shops just don’t want to be bothered, even for an easy sale.
Travis wrote:
Since Marvel is dropping Captain Marvel, would it be possible for DC to bring Peter in to do a monthly SHAZAM comic? 🙂
I believe Jeff Smith (BONE) is working on this now.
I understood Smith to be doing a 4 issue ‘Monster Society of Evil’ prestige format mini. After that I expect there’ll be another attempt to launch an ongoing. Probably one that completely misses what the character’s about, as usual.
PAD on the Hulk, even if for a limited series, is just too cool. Thank you thank you.
Ok maybe not, but even if your new Series is based on the adventures of a Blue Lobster ….I’ll be there.
Would that be a blue wind-up lobster?
Yeah, there we go – Peter David writing a “VeggieTales” comic!
Actually, on reflection, I’d love to see what he could do with Larry-Boy… 🙂
I think its a shame that Captain Marvel is getting cancelled now that its back on track as a good book. I’m one of the readers who thought the insanity story went on far too long and I hated the Coven story especially. I know of at least 4 people who dropped CM at the conclusion of that arc. I also really thought the gap between #5 and #6 was a big mistake since I know a lot of us felt like we missed an issue. By the time the insanity story was over, I was hoping Genis would be replaced by Phyla as CM. I liked Genis before the insanity, but now I have no identification or sympathy for the character and am glad to see him go. I am however, sad that we will be missing out on Rick, Phyla, Marlo and Moondragon.
This is such great news! I will be buying two copies of the PAD Hulk and hoping for the best.
Mark B.
“No, Vic Chalker was the little guy who electrocuted himself with his own battle suit. Ðìçk Chalker was the mutant dinosaur who called himself Carnivore, IIRC. Both are dead, but so was Purple Man.
My nerdery is unchallenged.
Ben”
You’re both forgetting about Rick Chalker, aka #1 Fan, who replaced his hands with fan blades, realized he couldn’t hit the recessed button that opened the door so he could leave his house, and slapped his forehead in recognition of his own idiocy.
I am the TRUE king of the nerds!
Adam Schwartz
Thanks for all the great work Mr David, I have been buying Captain Marvel since the new issue one and it has always been excellent, I particularly like the fact that the lead character was insane and that it wasnt going to end in one arc and also that you seemed to stick to your guns with each storyline, not falling into any of the writing styles that are becoming commonplace lately.
So Thanks and I guess I will read your other books to make up for it.
About the mutant title.
A Rogue mini of around 12 parts was announced.
So I gues this could be that title.
The last Rogue-mini s*ck*d big time, so now just let a REAl writer work on the character, so she will become interesting again, just like before the Lobdell-period.
Furhter, I really like Fallen Angel.
Although I hesistated a few months after Supergirl was cancelled, I still decided to buy the book.
Although I still miss Linda :(.
You’re both forgetting about Rick Chalker, aka #1 Fan, who replaced his hands with fan blades, realized he couldn’t hit the recessed button that opened the door so he could leave his house, and slapped his forehead in recognition of his own idiocy.
Didn’t #1 Fan decapitate himself? In an issue by PAD? And I seem to remember Quicksilver made a quite funny comment on this.
Travis
In response to the StarWolf:
1.) Yeah, Marvel doesn’t do reorders. So what? That’s what advance solicitations are for. Also, this wouldn’t be a problem if retailers stopped acting like whiny fans (and more like businessmen) and ordered extra of titles and then – I don’t know – tried to SELL them. Most retailers i know in Philly hardly order enough of the HOT books, let alone ones they may have to actually push (like “Fallen Angel”). As a result, hardly any stores have a decent back-issue supply anymore. It’s all about “pushing the trades’.
Also, StarWolf, I and other fans actually do like EMMA FROST and MYSTIQUE. EF was #46 on the charts for December which is great for a book with a female lead. And of course she’s not like she is today. The whole point of the series is to learn and watch her grow and evolve to this point. Fans like yourself are what is killing the industry. Characters are not only supposed to stay the same, but to have also always been the way they are. Are you the same exact person you were ten years ago? If you are, that’s too bad. The ironic thing is what PAD does better than almost anyone is keeping characters ringing true, while taking them in new and exciting directions.
“Didn’t #1 Fan decapitate himself? In an issue by PAD? And I seem to remember Quicksilver made a quite funny comment on this.
Travis”
well, yes, thats what i was implying by the whole “replaced his hands with fan blades and then slapped his forehead.” which would lead to a messy situation. led to a great annual by PAD featuring, if i recall correctly, Cloot, sean young in a catwoman suit, and a vigilante who was friends with Guido and inspired by the batman movie. A great pad written story.
I also enjoyed vic’s appearances in but i digress, like when he leaps out of a marvel boardroom and his parachute failed to open.
“NERD extroadinaire!”
Adam Schwartz
Sorry to see Cap go, but it was a good run. I’ve been following Fallen Angel since it’s beginning and will keep reading until it ends. I think I’ll use the money I save to pick up the Teen Titans, I thumbed through an issue yesterday and it was better then I thought it would be and… Wait a minute, THE HULK!?!?! and when will this be out?
“The Janet Jackson situation has gone way beyond proportionate response. We’re seeing a nationwide crackdown that movie producers, TV producers, radio producers, are all saying specifically relates to Janet Jackson.”
Perhaps. But I do wonder if it all doesn’t point to some long-simmering discontent among the Bible-thumping Right who just needed a high-profile case to jump on and start things rolling? Consider the problem with the comics shop in texas, for example. The Super Bowl thing was not an isolated case of society getting on its hind legs and saying “we don’t like that.” There have been others of late. Just this may have been the proverbial straw breaking some quadruped’s back.
“Fans like yourself are what is killing the industry. Characters are not only supposed to stay the same, but to have also always been the way they are.”
Not necessarilly. Two corrections here.
1 – A change should at least make sense. I’ve lost track of how many people of my acquaintance deride the beyond idiotic bit in X-MEN years back when Magneto yanked the adamantium out of Wolverine … without killing him?! He’s tough, but that’s ridiculous. And out of character for magneto who was never really shown as deliberately cruel, except maybe against Holocaust perpetrators. And don’t get me started on those dopey bone claws. Where the heck are those supposed to come from?!
2 – A change should also evolve from what they are ‘today’ to something else ‘tomorrow’ (comic time). The bit with Emma is having what we KNOW her past to have been suddenly being thrown out the window for no good reason and that history rewritten or ignored, all the while failing to take into account what we KNOW she will become.
There’s only two words to describe this: bad writing. And why should we encourage it with our hard-earned money when we have much better writers (such as PAD) to enjoy?
Any chance of getting a core X-title? Look at X-Men, two of the PAD era X-Factor characters (Havok and Polaris), and to be written by *brrrr* Chuck Austen. Multiple Man, Strong Guy and Quicksilver are currently in limbo so presumably available. Come on, how brilliant would a PAD run on (adjectiveless) X-Men be?
Hi, Peter!
I’m very sorry about the cancelation of the Capitain Marvel. I’m a huge fan of him and of you. I hope you return someday to the Incredible Hulk, who is my favorite superhero.
Greetings!
Rogerio
[i]1.) Yeah, Marvel doesn’t do reorders. So what? That’s what advance solicitations are for. Also, this wouldn’t be a problem if retailers stopped acting like whiny fans (and more like businessmen) and ordered extra of titles and then – I don’t know – tried to SELL them. Most retailers i know in Philly hardly order enough of the HOT books, let alone ones they may have to actually push (like “Fallen Angel”). As a result, hardly any stores have a decent back-issue supply anymore. It’s all about “pushing the trades’.[/i]
And you’ve obviously never owned a comic store, nor thought about the amount of money it takes to buy and maintain such an inventory of comics that may or may not sell.
And that’s the gist of it: the owner of the shop I used to go to when I lived in southern Iowa has an inventory of hundreds of thousands of dollars in comics that never sold.
Shops don’t want to take that kind of risk, and Marvel doesn’t want to make that kind of waste.
Starwolf, you wrote:
I’ve lost track of how many people of my acquaintance deride the beyond idiotic bit in X-MEN years back when Magneto yanked the adamantium out of Wolverine … without killing him?! He’s tough, but that’s ridiculous. And out of character for magneto who was never really shown as deliberately cruel, except maybe against Holocaust perpetrators. And don’t get me started on those dopey bone claws. Where the heck are those supposed to come from?!
Many things happen to comics characters that are utterly ridiculous. I can’t begin to count, for instance, how many times Cyke has been knocked backwards into walls, hard enough to leave an impression, only to get up and shrug it off. After a while, you get numb – it’s what passes for “suspension of disbelief” in comicdom.
Mags wasn’t being “deliberately cruel” – he, like Charles, was simply fed up with the status quo of their little feud, and thought he could make them go away if he put Wolvie through enough. Little did he know, that would finally be what it took to get Charles really mad…
The bone claws? It was made pretty plain early on that no one really understood how those adamantium claws were supposed to have been implanted in Logan’s arms, and be retractable and šhìŧ. With the idea that he had the ability to grow bone claws from his forearmes, it begins to make a little bit more sense, not less. When the adamantium was implanted, apparently, his body, in self-defense, extruded those claws. The adamantium bonded with that bone, as with all the rest of it, and the rest is “history”.
On the other hand, I think I’d like to see PAD write a series about Northstar and Iceman… 😉
You did a great job, Peter. 60 issues is actually better than anything CM has ever achieved; the 62 issue original run of CM (Sr)had a 2 year or so break between issues 16 and 17, and the character, storyline, and everything were pretty radically changed; so it’s more like 2 different series than your run is. I look forward to your upcoming Marvel shorts, and I’ll go anywhere you tell me to to tell DC how much I enjoy Fallen Angel!
dAN
I’m sorry to see CM go. I followed him from Avengers Forever and through both volumes. I even have the Bowen mini bust. As a fan, all I ask is that you go out like Newhart, not Cheers (ie, guns blazings).
David
Jumping into the Wolverine bone claw issue here…
It’s been awhile since I’ve read Wolvi or X-Men (I have continued to collect them, but got so bogged down in other things in life that I’m quite far behind in my reading, like years behind), but my recollection of the whole situation was Mags losing it and taking it out on Wolverine, who would have died if not for the telepathic intervention of Charles or Jean. The bone claws, I thought, were implied to always have been there (just look at last years Origin), so that’s how the adamantium claws worked. He had the claws with muscle structure attached to move them around, much like a cats retractible claws (with the exception of the fact that a cat doesn’t push it’s claws through its own skin). When his skeleton was bonded to the adamantium, so were the claws, being bone and all.
I could be wrong, but that was my understanding/recollection. And I personally prefered the idea that they were bone and not some metal implant, because how could he have operated them without some kind of musculature already there? And, bone is quite strong and hard (ask any martial artist who can smash his fist or elbow through cement), so I thought it was neat.
Monkeys.
The hulk project… is it Hulk: The End?
Captain Marvel is one of the few books that I buy these days and I’m definitely going to miss it. I loved the title all the way through, especially all of the unexpected twists, turns and laughs. My main hope is that this version of Captain Marvel stays around after issue #25. Anyway, thanks for the great stories.
Seeing as how your run on the Hulk was the only comic that I read after I got fed up with most comics (and their glittery, hologram covers), I’m definitely there for the Hulk mini-series!
(just look at last years Origin),
It’s too bad that I thought Wolverine: Origin was such utter crap.
What I find amusing about the whole Wolverine claws issue is how come is adamantium claws were always looking like machetes (thin) instead of rounded like his bone claws? 🙂
Depended on the artist, Craig. The original Weapon X and Wolverine illos showed claws that were rounded, like an animal’s. The earliest shot I’ve found of Wolvie’s claws looking like blades was in Frank Miller’s “Wolverine” mini, where Miller’s concentration was on the concept of Wolvie as a failed samurai. To thoroughly beat us over the head with the allusion, he was drawn with his claws looking like little katanas. Since then, he’s most often been drawn with dirks coming out of his hands. (Did make for a classic exchange in the second movie, though:
COP: Put the knives down!
WOLVERINE: I can’t.)
Hey, if you want to complain about drawings that clash with established character facts, how about the tendency to draw Cyclops as a buffed-out weightlifter, with everyone still calling him “Slim”?
Craig Ries:
I understand about taking a risk and money needed for inventory and all that. I just no of no other group of businesspeople who continually badmouth their own product and then wonder why they’re not selling it. The comic retailers I know that have been successful take advantage of the 10-cent and 25-cent issues, drop some off at tattoo parlors, donate to libraries, and try to make deals with local theaters to take advantage of the movies. Oh, and they also hand out a ton of stuff – to kids in particular – for Free Comic Book Day. One of the declining retailers in Philly made people buy $10 worth of stuff to get their “free” comic. Then he wonders why he has had to close half his stores!
I understand about taking a risk and money needed for inventory and all that. I just no of no other group of businesspeople who continually badmouth their own product and then wonder why they’re not selling it. The comic retailers I know that have been successful take advantage of the 10-cent and 25-cent issues, drop some off at tattoo parlors, donate to libraries, and try to make deals with local theaters to take advantage of the movies. Oh, and they also hand out a ton of stuff – to kids in particular – for Free Comic Book Day.
Sounds like some smart retailers here.
Though I’m of the mind that the economics of the direct market are so wonky that the system is more to blame for declining circulation than the content of books.
One of the declining retailers in Philly made people buy $10 worth of stuff to get their “free” comic. Then he wonders why he has had to close half his stores!
But bozos like this one can’t help….
No. They don’t. And neither do older fans who see nothing positive about the industry. I write for the Philadelphia Daily News, and am always pitching comic related stories. Yet almost always when I try to get a fan’s perspective, it is something negative. Wizard World East was the worst. Every time I approached someone, even as a fan, I got negative feedback. To wit, some responses to positive statements and questions I made:
1.) Wizard is all hype. There’s no news in Wizard.
2.) Comics are ridiculously expensive.
3.) Two-thirds of this stuff doesn’t even need to come out.
4.) Grant Morrison is ruining the X-Men
5.) Chris Claremont no longer knows how to write the X-Men
6.) Scott Lobdell always sucked on X-Men
7.) Chuck Austen absolutely blows on X-Men
8.) Am I excited about Kevin Smith? The attention he’s getting is sickening! You’d swear Stan Lee and Jack Kirby were here!
9.) You talked to Allison Mack? You know, they should have made Chloe black and kept Pete Ross white if they had to have a black character.
10.) You like Buffy? Come on, Lobdell and Niceza are terrible and don’t know how to tell Buffy stories
11.) Jennifer Garner’s Elektra looked like a whørë
After a while of this, I decided to just mingle with the writers, artists, etc. as much as I could. Also, after making all of these statements, no one ever followed up by talking about a book, writer, or artist they liked.
(Jonathan (the other one)): Hey, if you want to complain about drawings that clash with established character facts, how about the tendency to draw Cyclops as a buffed-out weightlifter, with everyone still calling him “Slim”?
I’m having a very strange experience… because it’s odd to see someone other than ME typing that out.
**drops flowers at gravesite of “Body types in comic art”**
please let the Hulk mini series turn into an ongoing
Back in the day, like in the 80’s, weren’t there commercials on TV for marvel? I seem to remember (unless i did crack when i was 8… which i did… ) commercials for Marvel Comics with the tagline “find out next week in marvel comics!”….
Oh. And Peter. Get a message board! lol
Paul, I remember those commercials too. I had forgotten about them until you mentioned them. But, maybe we had the same dealer…
Monkeys
Paul Skowronski,
Yes, there used to be brief ads at the end of G.I. Joe pushing the comics, which partly explains why G.I. Joe was SO successful. Then the CONCERNED PARENTS OF AMERICA got involved. They were actually being dragged into comic stores and FORCED (sarcasm) to buy their kids something to read. So they put pressure on Congress to pass a law stating that the ads for comics could no longer coattail related TV shows (heaven forbis they face the pressure of telling their kids NO!) Which is why you don’t see comic ads at the end of Spider-Man cartoon, Teen Titans, X-Men Evolution; Superman/Batman hour or anything else. Sad, isn’t it?
Hey, if you want to complain about drawings that clash with established character facts, how about the tendency to draw Cyclops as a buffed-out weightlifter, with everyone still calling him “Slim”?
That’s not necessarily strange. The nickname could have pre-dated his “body-developement”, but still stuck. (Given the X-men’s tendancies to exercise, drawing Cyclops as anything but well-developed would read wrong.)
And sometimes, people are given knicknames that are just the opposite of their body type/personality as a joke that sticks.
Kip, it was established originally that Scott Summers was the “lanky” type – one of those guys who, when they exercise, don’t tend to get the huge bulging biceps. They stay slim, at least until middle age catches up with them and they start to bulge in places that have nothing to do with muscles. My brother’s one of those types. My observation is that, while sometimes lacking the raw power of their bulkier brethren, the lanky ones do tend to be faster to move, which can more than offset sheer muscle mass in a fight.
The problem here, as I see it, is that in the ’80s and ’90s, there was a trend that called for all supertypes to have the same bodies. Men were to be built like anorexic weightlifters, while women were all to be slim and large-breasted. (Which led to some of the characters I developed for the RPG “Champions” – Mass, for instance, who increased her bodily density to achieve the strength and invulnerability of an Asgardian, while looking like a mere slip of a woman… but I, too, digress.)
Paul Skowronski,
Yes, there used to be brief ads at the end of G.I. Joe pushing the comics, which partly explains why G.I. Joe was SO successful. Then the CONCERNED PARENTS OF AMERICA got involved. They were actually being dragged into comic stores and FORCED (sarcasm) to buy their kids something to read. So they put pressure on Congress to pass a law stating that the ads for comics could no longer coattail related TV shows (heaven forbis they face the pressure of telling their kids NO!) Which is why you don’t see comic ads at the end of Spider-Man cartoon, Teen Titans, X-Men Evolution; Superman/Batman hour or anything else. Sad, isn’t it?
I don’t know what your sources are, but the reason that comic books aren’t advertised during a comic book cartoon is because of advertising laws that are in effect, not because of any conservative parent group.
Yes, because of advertising laws that were enacted specifically as a reaction to kids who were bugging their parents to get the comic after seeing it adverised on “G.I. Joe”. The law did not exist before. But again, some people would rather pass laws than either tell their children NO or (gasp) have them actually read something.
Oh, and my source is pretty high up the food chain, and someone who would benefit tremendously if this law were no longer in place.
Sure, big corporations and that is why it was put in place.
Maybe it’s just me, but after reading the phrase in the above, I think it might be kind of cool to start a JLA spinoff, featuring the parents of all those Leaguers whoe folks are still alive, and call it CONCERNED PARENTS OF AMERICA…
…like I said, maybe it’s just me… 😉
Nooooo! It’s always the good stuff that has to go. No more Captain Marvel and no more Angel. Arrgh!!! I just hope the series doesn’t end with Marlo being killed or something.
Well I certainly hope Peter and Marvel will re-consider and continue Captain Marvel, the best comic book of the past decade! Let your voices be heard at http://www.x-worldcomics.com#savemarv