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Well, I’m sorry to see Captain Marvel go. It’s been a fun book to read, and I’ve quite liked it. But as you said, it’ll have lasted 60 issues, and in this day and age, that’s a pretty long, healthy run. I’ll be buying the remaining issues of the series. (Heck, I’ve bought every other issue, why give up now?)
On the other hand, I’m also very intrigued by the new projects you’re working on. I’m ecstatic to see that you’re returning to the Hulk, albeit in a very limited form. But I hope, as a limited series, it’s a biggie, i.e. six to twelve issues. That’ll give a good year of great storytelling.
Hmm…a mutant character of your acquaintance? An X-Factor character, perhaps? Hmm. Let the speculation begin. I don’t have a clue. But I’ll probably be reading both projects.
So it kinda was good news/bad news day, as I predicted. 🙂
Oh, and to anyone else reading: Buy Fallen Angel. It’s one of the best new series I’ve read in the last five years, bar none.
Aaarrgghh…I’ll need to get the Fallen Angel TPB when it comes out. I hate not being able to support the book every month, but I hope that buying the TPB itself shows support in some way.
As far as Captain Marvel, I will be sad to see it go. I’ve been kind of a lukewarm fan as of late, but I loved a lot of the stuff, including the ultimate Rick Jones storyline, which only PAD could think up, tell, and have it fit so well. It was a fun ride, and having Keith Giffen pencil issue #25 is going to make it a lot more wild.
Finally…Peter David writing the Hulk again. Will wonders never cease. I’ll avoid saying any extremist fanboy lines about him showing Bruce Jones how Hulk is done, but truth be told, I liked PAD’s work on the Hulk overall. The character grew, transitioned, and things happened. It was a good run and I look forward to seeing what else he has up his sleeve.
Chris
PAD SMASH!! How many copies of this mini-series need to sell in order to get you on the monthly?
Sorry to see Captain Marvel go, but, ohmigod, the Hulk. That’s just about the only thing that makes up for CM’s demise.
And hey, although you got dealt a lot of crap on this series (lack of regular artist after Cross left, constant threat of cancellation, U-Decide goofiness, etc.), it was still a good read. Kudos, PAD.
PS: I hope the mutant of your acquaintance is Wolvie.
HULK!!!!!!!!
I KNEW IT, I KNEW IT, I KNEW IT.
Sad to see Captain Marvel go…it was truly the one issue EVERY month I looked forward to and read while waiting in line to pay.
Thanks for the great run, Peter and keep up the incredible work on Fallen Angel.
Ðámņ…I’m gonna miss Marlo…
-Albert
PAD, I’m the guy that asked about Captain Marvel at Wizard World. Sorry if you weren’t ready to discuss all of this yet. I was just a fan of your work who started buying Captain Marvel since very early in your first volume on the title. I know that sounds like I’m full of it, but I’m not. I really did read your run on CM since very close to the start of it (and picked up the First Contanct TPB so I could see how it began).
I’m happy to hear you’re doing more with the Hulk. And I am reading Fallen Angel and have been buying it since the first issue of that series.
Good luck on your future projects, and I’ll be buying them. 🙂
Oh, the gods have awnsered my prayers PAD! Thank you for giving Hulk another shot!
Let me be the first to say it:
Strong Guy! Strong Guy! STRONG GUY!
I enjoy Captain Marvel serie and i will bought until it finish (here in Spain y only have read above 10 issues of the second series)but …
Peter David on Hulk, this is fûçkìņg good, now i finally have read all your old issues and even the worst of all them are really good, i can’t wait to read the new ones
First off, I’m glad you’ve been allowed to finish the book (more or less) on your terms. I’m sad to see Captain Marvel go, but, at least it won’t end on some crazy cliffhanger…I hope…(you wouldn’t be twisted enough to do that…would you?)
As for the Hulk…I haven’t been this excited about an upcoming project since…well…I’ve NEVER been this excited about an upcoming project. And since most people equate your run on the Hulk with the Hulk’s best stories…this just may turn out to be a long term project!
Talk about exciting…
I have written a FAllen Angel TPB’s review in a Spanish website on comic-books
http://www.zonanegativa.com
I hope it help.
Best wishes for PAD and for this series
Oooh, Giffen. But which version? I mean, he has at least three distinctly different styles he’s used in the past decade or so (one really dark and full of inks, one using only one line width and no solid blacks, one kinda in between). The style he used during Ambush Bug is my favorite, and would seem appropriate….
PAD,
It’s sad to see Captain Marvel come to an end.
On the other hand I’m jumping with Joy (I don’t know her, but she’s excited too) over your return to the Hulk (stupid Jones made me drop the book that I’ve had the longest run on).
As for your mutant character let the guessing begin. Havok seems the most likely for an on-going from the characters that you’ve written. However my hope is for Multiple Man. Your X-Factor run made him a favorite of mine.
A Fan from NJ,
Doug
I’m really going to miss CM.
The impression that I get is that the “mutant” title is the one that holds the possibility of becoming ongoing and not the Hulk. Is there a chance of this Hulk series doing the same?
I’m really sorry to hear that Captain Marvel will be ending. It was as close to a PAD Hulk fix that I could get with you still doing some Hulk characters but without actually doing Hulk. But now Sweet Monkey Jesus you will be doing a Hulk mini series that is the best news I could hear! Hopefully this could eventually lead to you coming back to the regular series? Well I can only hope since you do put the Incredible in Hulk!!
Now as for the other limited series you will be doing let me second the guess that someone else already said and say I hope its Strong Guy!
“Is there a chance of this Hulk series doing the same?”
At Marvel, where the bottom line counts for everything? Once the fans flock to this limited series, I HOPE it opens up their eyes to an ongoing! (If Mr. David’s willing, of course…)
[subliminal message]The Pantheon, or at least Ulysses[/subliminal message]
It’s a shame if CM is going, but I’m glad to see that, as was being spoken about, possibly on Comic Book Resources, you’ll be returning to the Hulk’s book.
And if Jean Grey is the mutant you’ve had aquaintence with who’s going to be focused upon, that’ll be even better! Who wants Jean Grey in PAD’s focus, everybody? Raise your hand for one of the best redheads around next to Mary Jane!
Well Marv so long and thanks for all the fun. Issue 25, Giffen, hmm, does Ambush Bug hop onto Marv just before he jumps in time and winds up in the 30th century where hilarity insues. Seriously the mutant, another vote for Strong Guy.
Is there going to be a trade(s) of the whole Marv goes nuts storyline?
Sad to see Captain Marvel go. I’m going miss Marv and especially Rick and Marlo who have been two of my favorite supporting characters since your early Hulk run. Hopefully you’ll get a chance to write them again in the future.
Can’t wait to see your Hulk mini-series, hopefully someone great will pencil it, I want this to kick Jones’ Hulk ášš in every way.
Peter, I’m really sorry to see CM go, but I have trouble believing that the story was hurt by Chris Williams’ departure. I think that if the art’s adequate, the story’s strengths shine through, and while I didn’t care that much for the few issues that Angel Medina or Kyle Hotz did, I think Ivan Reis’ work was beautiful, Michael Ryan’s was really good (it even looked a lot like Ivan Reis in some pages), and even Paul Azaceta’s had its strengths, even if its lines were a bit undefined.
It’s one thing to try and write a story to Williams’ strengths; It’s entirely another to say that the book was hurt because of Williams’ departure, particularly when the replacement artists were really good.
I’m really looking forward to seeing if Hulk is the star of the book, or just one of them, and if the mutant in the other is a certain short and hairy one with claws.
You know I’ll be buying them when they come out. 🙂
Well, I’ll be sad to see my namesake vanish from comics, but at least he gets to go out in style.
As to the Hulk mini, I, for one, am glad that it’s a mini-series. While I enjoyed Mr. David’s work in the ongoing serial form, I’ve always enjoyed stories that have a definite end. There’s something about having a definite plan for the end that makes a writer’s work really stand out.
Well, I’m sorry to see CM go but at least we get PAD on The Hulk once again. With the current Hulk comic moving to Marvel Knights I hoped that a new Marvel Universe Hulk title would be starting up. It may not be ongoing but any PAD Hulk is better than none.
I’m hoping they get a good artist for this. There are only a few guys out there that can draw BIG superheroes well. Of course, my vote would be for Dale Keown. Barring Dale’s involvement I’d love to see Scot Eaton take a crack at Hulk. He does amazing big guys. With Thor changing writer’s might we be able to see Scot on Hulk? Another artist whose work would be perfect for The Hulk is Paul Pelletier. His artwork has just been leaps and bounds better on Negation than anything he has done before. His big guys are amazing also.
PAD – Any hints as to who will be handling the art chores?
I’m just now coming back to comics after not really reading in about 10 years. I haven’t had a chance to check out Captain Marvel, but I’ve been reading Fallen Angel, and I’m hooked. Not 100 percent sure what I’m hooked on yet, :), but am intrigued enough by what’s going on to stay with the book.
Ðámņ.
I’m really going to miss Captain Marvel, Peter. What a fun ride it has been! I hope you look back on your work with CM and are as proud of it as you are your other runs.
I’ll continue to support Fallen Angel every month and I’ll be looking forward to your new work with Marvel.
One quick question…can you, or are you willing, to tell us if the rumors are true about Captain Marvel being in a new Avengers book?
Let me be the 3rd to vote for a Strong Guy series.
The sad thing is, you wrote him so well, I wouldn’t mind seeing you write Quicksilver, but Strong Guy would be just fine. 🙂
Kieth Giffen art? Not for me. I stopped getting Cap Marvel after the insane Cap story wrapped up (well not really it was kinda open at the end of “Crazy like a Fox”) and the rotating of bad artists. It’s a shame, I like the first series, too bad Jemas and Joey Q had to get involved with the stupid relaunch/new direction stunt. Now with Marvel becoming Bendis Comic Group (IMO I can’t stand his writing), I buy more and more DC and no Marvel. Plus Marvel refuses to have single issue stories in any of their books, they drag ’em out to 4-6 issues. I will check out the PAD Hulk project for an issue or 2. PAD if you have any say bring back a traditional covers to your books with word balloons, and possibly a scene from the book instead of the standard Marvel pin-up covers of today. Thanks for lending and ear…or um eye.
I always wanted to read a Pantheon series featuring the Atlanta/Hector/Prometheus trio that were left, along with whoever else survied the Fall storyline. I always liked Hector, Prometheus and Atlanta, and thought they would make a nice core to a book.
When I saw the word mutant the first word in my head was “Havok”. And I stand by that. Havok would make for a really good character to explore the Marevel universe with. He’s been a bad guy, he’s been a good guy, he’s dangerous. The angles would be obvious, he’s never trusted, he can make mistakes, he can be big and flashy, but he finds ways not to be.
The next thought was Strong Guy/Guido. But that would be asking to much.
Madrox the Multiple Man would be fun, too.
…if the mutant in the other is a certain short and hairy one with claws.
Why would anyone want to read a book about my hamster?
(Yes, she’s a mutant. How many Siberian dwarf hamsters are smart enough to figure out how to open a plastic exercise ball from the inside?) 🙂
On the one hand, I’m sad to hear that Captain Marvel is coming to an end. It’s one of my favorite current Marvel titles. It will be missed. 🙁
On the other hand…. THE HULK?!?!? I was hoping that one of the projects you mentioned would involve the Hulk, PAD. Talk about a dream come true! I know so far it’s a limited series, but I’m also hoping that there are plenty of fans like myself who’ll show enough interest in the book to convince Marvel to make it ongoing.
Wow! 🙂
Well, I am less excited about the new series – but only because I find your ongoing work to be much stronger then anything limited you have done. In fact most ongoing work you have done starts good – but then after a year it becomes incredible.
Still, I am sure I will be getting both series you mention.
What I am excited about is Giffen art on PAD writing!!! Have you worked with Giffen before (I seem to recall you guys co-writing a Starman issue before – is there anything else?)
Two of my favorite creators working together (even if just for one issue)!!! I am looking forward to the mayhem – even if I will miss Marv.
Hi again
I vote for Strong Guy i really liked the issue where X- Factor goes to visit Doc Samsom
I also will like to see Ulysses again, and Hector too
Sad to see the CM series go, and even with Cross gone, I still enjoyed the Marv as madman tale – but then I like (almost) anything PAD produces in comic format.
The Hulk! cool.
As for Fallen Angel – GO BUY THIS SERIES PEOPLE!
This is the absolute best series PAD has ever written. GO out and support it. Buy copies for yoru friends and enemies and casual acquaintances! Put them in Dentists lobbies! (or not).
PAD, obviously I’m on this site because I’m a fan of yours. Though many creators have shown you can’t go home again and match prior runs on characters, I have faith you would not be doing Hulk unless you still felt you had something to say. So best of luck, and I’ll eagerly await your new projects (count me as another vote for Wolverine).
I’ve really been enjoying Captain Marvel, and it’s a shame it’s ending, but once again, you’ve been given ample warning, so you can at least satisfy a part of your writer’s urge and not leave the fans waiting for a resolution that will never come.
Of course, I was one of the folks you mentioned a number of times who just didn’t care about Mar-Vell and the like — My primary interest in Marvel’s Captain Marvel comes from the lawsuit that prevents DC from using the title “Captain Marvel,” even though they have the rights to the original character named “Captain Marvel.” I always percieved the Marvel character as an attempt to take advantage of a unique legal position more than anything else.
That said, once the series is done, I’ll go back and start trying to find the first part, since I started reading it to support you as a writer, Peter, rather than any specific work of yours. U-Decide came on the heels of some rather startling gossip about Young Justice being assumed into a Titans book that has since taken my favorite comic from me and replaced it with a book I haven’t enjoyed a single panel of (which is why I stopped reading it after issue 3, rather than my standard 6). Having seen how the story ends, and having enjoyed it, I think the month I would have bought #26 will be a good time to go try to find #1 from the first go-around.
The sadness of Captain Marvel aside, congratulations. I hope your next one does take off, since it seems the clime at Marvel has cooled substantially in the wake of Marvel’s firing. I sympathize: I had a crappy boss who singled me out and tried to ruin the enjoyment I had for my job once, too.
Also, I love Fallen Angel. It’s got the mood I wanted about ten years ago from the Gabriel Knight games.
I’ve really been enjoying Captain Marvel, and it’s a shame it’s ending, but once again, you’ve been given ample warning, so you can at least satisfy a part of your writer’s urge and not leave the fans waiting for a resolution that will never come.
Of course, I was one of the folks you mentioned a number of times who just didn’t care about Mar-Vell and the like — My primary interest in Marvel’s Captain Marvel comes from the lawsuit that prevents DC from using the title “Captain Marvel,” even though they have the rights to the original character named “Captain Marvel.” I always percieved the Marvel character as an attempt to take advantage of a unique legal position more than anything else.
That said, once the series is done, I’ll go back and start trying to find the first part, since I started reading it to support you as a writer, Peter, rather than any specific work of yours. U-Decide came on the heels of some rather startling gossip about Young Justice being assumed into a Titans book that has since taken my favorite comic from me and replaced it with a book I haven’t enjoyed a single panel of (which is why I stopped reading it after issue 3, rather than my standard 6). Having seen how the story ends, and having enjoyed it, I think the month I would have bought #26 will be a good time to go try to find #1 from the first go-around.
The sadness of Captain Marvel aside, congratulations. I hope your next one does take off, since it seems the clime at Marvel has cooled substantially in the wake of Marvel’s firing. I sympathize: I had a crappy boss who singled me out and tried to ruin the enjoyment I had for my job once, too.
Also, I love Fallen Angel. It’s got the mood I wanted about ten years ago from the Gabriel Knight games.
Sorry about the double post. I just had a language filter condemn me for the use of the word “g o – r o.” I don’t even know what that means, but considering it let in the word “fûçk,” I’d really love an explanation. Otherwise, this will stick in my craw and give me an anneurism. Like the news I got from a friend of mine the other day that Family Video (a small chain of video stores here in Illinois, if nowhere else) had adopted a “no-piercings” rule. Apparently having a pørņ section with ridiculously squeaky saloon-style doors isn’t shocking to patrons, but a man with an earring is.
You know, I read the other day a comment from a Cable fan that there is to be an X-Force limited series later this year.
I plan to get it regardless at this point, but having PAD write it would make it so much better. 🙂
But a single mutant character? Well, I can’t think of any notable ones that hasn’t had their own series of some sort already.
The fact that Emma Frost and Mystique get their own series atm just boggles the mind though.
if the mutant in the other is a certain short and hairy one with claws.
Yes, because gawd only knows that Wolverine doesn’t get near enough exposure./sarcasm.
I’ll hope for Quicksilver or Havok. Someone, anyone but that retarded ape with claws.
BTW, this is sorta on-topic: I recently went out and bought a *HUGE* chunk of PAD’s run on the Incredible Hulk. I could only collect it during the last year or so of PAD’s run, because I live nowhere near a comics shop, and had to rely on grocery stores and pharmacies.
Anyhoo, I recently acquired a consecutive run from 346-428, plus 434 and 436-440 and the annuals. I’m about halfway through reading it all, and I loved it. I’ve read a few issues from the Pantheon era (specifically issues 396-400, the infamous bachelor party for Rick Jones in 417, and the wedding of Rick Jones in 418, followed by the very moving AIDS story in 420).
This is great stuff, and I’m glad I was able to track the issues down at a good price. It’s got me anxious for more PAD Hulk. 🙂
Sorry also for the double post, but some of the strongest writing of PAD’s I’ve read was the issue of Incredible Hulk with Betty’s death and the subsequent farewell. Very very moving material. I started with issue 454 and read through the end of PAD’s run, but those last two issues blew me away.
Just thought I’d mention that. I’m so excited about the new project!
Maybe if you called it X-Captain Marvel it would sell better, and hey, the world needs more x-books.
Captain Marvel is the only comic I really, really look forward to each month, and while I don’t think Genis & co will be completely gone forever, I’m still bloody pìššëd øff, and upset.
Sad to say I dropped CM when the intervention storyline ended. Finances being what they were, it was either show my love for all things Fantastic Four, or a book I stopped putting at the top of my pile because of the story. FF won out. Sorry, PAD. I tried to do both. At least I stuck around for AN ending… Good luck with a stinkin’ mutie and that green testosterone case everyone wants you back on. 😉
On a bit of an off-topic bit… Isn’t it great to live in a world where, thanks to movie weekend box office, we can safely say that Jesus was devoured by zombies?
Sorry to hear about CM’s fate. The big silver linings (i.e. your new projects) are already getting praise uptopic, so let me mention a couple of others:
1) It sounds like you were given enough notice that you can craft a true and proper ending to the series rather than having it yanked out from under you. That’s somewhat unusual for cancelled books (or at least it used to be), so I’m happy that we’ll get a real ending rather than a “huh?”
2) On the “Marvel politics” front, at least this time Joe was just giving away news a bit early rather than trying to create a self-fulfilling prophecy. Given that predictions of cancellation often lead to enough readers fleeing to cause exactly that cancellation, at least this was simply a news item rather than a sparring match.
Looking forward to the new projects — I’m not a huge mutant fan, but I picked up your X-Factor run and will certainly take a look at the new one. (And Hulk, of course, is mahvelous news.)
And if folks aren’t reading Fallen Angel, they ought to be.
TWL
Sorry to hear that Marv will no longer be with us PAD. I had not read your previous run, though was a fan of your Star Trek: New Frontier books. I picked up the first CM trade when it came out, loved it, and promptly got a subscription to it. I’ll be picking up the Fallen Angel TPB and be giving #12 a chance in June (I just hate to start in the middle of arcs, nothing personal).
You’ve become a writer I enjoy to read every month, so now matter what the financial situation, I will make room for you.
Sorry to hear that Marv will no longer be with us PAD. I had not read your previous run, though was a fan of your Star Trek: New Frontier books. I picked up the first CM trade when it came out, loved it, and promptly got a subscription to it. I’ll be picking up the Fallen Angel TPB and be giving #12 a chance in June (I just hate to start in the middle of arcs, nothing personal).
You’ve become a writer I enjoy to read every month, so no matter what the financial situation, I will make room for you.
Here’s another vote for a Strong Guy series. Failing that, another vote for a Havok series (since the character hasn’t been used well of late).
Kick out the jams on the Hulk, PAD!
You know, I read the other day a comment from a Cable fan that there is to be an X-Force limited series later this year.
I plan to get it regardless at this point, but having PAD write it would make it so much better. 🙂
Nope…Nicieza and (*shudder*) Liefeld. And, even were PAD to write it, that second name is about the only one that I can think of that would still bring me to pass the book by.
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Going to miss Captain Marvel. Looks like another “Nytwyng’s Marvel Reading List Declines” point is on the horizon, what with Bendis taking over Avengers alongside the CM cancellation. (Then there’s the new creative team coming aboard on Thor that I’ve not heard of before…that one will probably be on the fence, at least.)
Well, at least I’ll still have Fallen Angel and Soulsearchers and Company to tide me over until the new minis start.
I’ve bought Captain Marvel since the begining, and the only problem I’ve ever had with it is that it felt…too much about Marv and Rick bickering. Constantly. It was fun for a while, but almost six years later they’re still going at it.
That and I think Marv would’ve been better served if somehow Rick wasn’t around, I want to see this arrogant comsic powered prìçk deal with humanity. I want to see him surprised, and baring that, I want something EPIC, huge, and not dealing with aliens we’ve seen a million times.
No matter what every Marvel comsic/series and story deals with the Kree or the Skrulls, or the Shi’ar, been there, done that. Neat, but not neat seeing it the same way over and over again(Kree as analogs for fascism, etc).
Eh, maybe I just never really liked the series and bought it out of loyalty. I always felt like it was never what I wanted, it was fun for what it was, but it never seemed to be what I wanted coming out of Avengers Forever(which was huge, I wanted a series that had that sense of importance and purpose).
Truthfully, I never thought the series had a reason to be, other than to spin off from Avengers Forever. It never felt like Marv and Rick really wanted to be seperated, they just knew they needed each other(for some reason I can’t remember or was never stated) and couldn’t stand that fact so they bickered.
That and I didn’t like the idea of putting Marv through the ringer when he didn’t actually need to go through the ringer, IMO. He needed to grow up, not be torn down and rebuilt, he needed to see things that shook his arrogance off and allowed him to see that he could be wrong. Instead this whole “I’m gonna make the world better by forcing my half assed POV on everyone” thing seemed to take the element of the character that worked the least and beat it into the ground.
It’s weird, a writer whose work I like, a character I liked, and the result doesn’t work for me. It never really worked for me, but I wanted it to.
That and the costume change bothered me to no end. Pacheo’s Marv costume is perfect, the Ross one blew goats. I find it hard to read the issues with Marv in the Kree get up.
Wow, Giffen and David. Two of my favourite creators together.
Can we see more of this, please?
Charlie E/N