Presidential Debate Mark III

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Hi all I am here. This is Kathleen typing since Peter is bowling this evening.

9:00 It’s a table debate. Makes it feel more down home don’ t it?

9:01 Domestic it is.

9:02 Aww they greeted each other nicely. Economy is the first issue up.

9:03 Thanks and Nancy Regan is in the hospital? What does this have to do with the economy?

9:04 John Q Public: We’re as mad as hëll and we aren’t going to take it any more

9:05 McCain makes some really good points of where the money needs to go for homeowners not speculators.

9:06 Rescue for the Middle Class. Good use of Buzz Words. Point for Obama.

9:07 Obama brings up that there is the long term and the short term.

9:07 McCain seems to be on the attack….and there goes the sound bite.

9:08 Nice one Obama (You are watching your own ads aren’t you?) I heard the audience laugh on that one.

9:10 Nice rebuttal by Obama but I think McCain is setting up that he will be on the attack all evening.

9:11 Can we stop talking about Joe the Plumber? How many times has McCain said Joe the Plumber? (Yes folks it is the new My Friends)

9:12 Obama needs to rein McCain in.

9:13 Moving onto the Deficit which is a 800 pound Gorilla in the room after hand out all this money.

9:14 Obama admits we have been living beyond our means (being America) Pay as you go is not a bad way to go but I don’t think it is plausible.

9:16 McCain is talking about the past again. Bob brings him back.

9;17 who has “countries that don’t like us very much” in the pool of phrases we have heard before

9:18 And WHO increased the government? Would that be Bush and the Republicans?
How did we get onto Energy from the Deficit?

9:19 He got the Planetarium in again. That projector is a great over simplification of what that object was.

9:20 Obama points out who was in the office and where we were. Smart move on his part.

9:20 Bob is trying to get it back to the Deficit and McCain is off and running again.

9:22 McCain is trying to say he is a Maverick without saying Maverick

9:22 Obama is sounding a little defensive but is trying to steer away from sounding so
Fox News! Good one Obabma. Again there is laughter in the audience

(:24 Please OH Please DON”T show us those scars!

9:25 OH this should be interesting. The High Road and the lack of walking on it

9:25 Yeah it has been tough all over. Town Hall meetings? Did you see how you did on the last one Mr. McCain?

9:26 McCain is really reaching here. And he has NOT repudiated many of those sorts of remarks no matter what he says. Oh boy he can prove it.

9:28 Obama better get a handle on this quick and there he goes. McCain doesn’t sound happy about what he is saying either. Just don’t say that you started it.

9:30 McCain watches football. Wonder what sport Obama watches? I’m betting basketball.

9:31 there is Joe again

9:31 Obama is going to step into the one with both feet. And there is the rebuttal on that sound bite.

9:32 Obama is trying to take the high road and McCain keeps butting in. Not quite cricket

9:34 Again I hear the audience giggle

9:35 Nice “disagree without being disagreeable”

9:36 There is the hit and the punch. Now can Obama sort this out without giving more fodder? Nice start now let see where he is going with it. He is doing an OK job of explaining what happened. Putting names that he does talk to is a good touch.

9:39 This is not making McCain looked good at all. Now he is trying to get on point again.

9:40 People to bring into the Government. VP choices

9:42 Ok he is using Biden to get some talking points across

9:42 Role model? To whom?

9:43 Palin is up to her ášš in the good ol’ boy network in Alaska. Just look at the indictment.

9:44 Nice side step Obama.

9:45 McCain has been couched to death on this question.

9:46 McCain is on the attack again. Obama not given the oppertunity to respond.

9:46 Now we are into Energy policy and a real number is asked for. Not going to get it but he asked real nice

9:48 McCain is very comfortable with this question and gave his rote answer. Let’s see how Obama does.

9:49 Obama is playing the camera more than McCain. He is look at Bob or Obama.

9:50 Can’t drill our way out is a good phrase to use

9:51 McCain is in for the attack again. Trying for the downhome touch again. He didn’t say Elite but he came d*mn close

9:52 Point for McCain for pointing out that Obama has never been to South America. Has Bush?

9:53 Pulling it back to Energy and the American auto industry. Not a bad way to go.

9:55 I figured that McCain was going to bring up Chavez. Restrict trade and raise taxes. he is really trying to get those sound bites in.

9:56 Health Care. Boy this is a sticky subject

9:57 Make sure you keep it simple Obama and push it onto the Insurance companies. That Fed pool won’t work for the general public. It is suplimented up the ying yang by the government. At least he admits that it will cost to start but how it might be better later

9:58 How about NOT CUTTING PE AND RECESS OUT OF THE SCHOOL DAY TO TEACH TO THE TEST

Oh for the love of mother mary, Joe the plumber again?

5,000 will NOT pay for healthcare in the New York industry. And Obama has answered these charges before (like the last two debates)

10:00 Obama reminds McCain that he has answered these questions before. Now Obama is talking to Joe. I want to see a picture of this magic plumber.

10:02 Obama is right about cherry picking clients. He gave a number! 12,000 is about right for a family policy.

10:03 McCain needs to get off the Joe jag. Obama just rebutted this just 90 seconds ago. And McCain had drank the Kool Aid about his health plan.

10:04 We have heard this all in the last debate, There is nothing new here. Why don’t we move along?

10:06 Roe vs. Wade and the Supreme Court. Good question

10:06 McCain is doing well on this one in terms of the Supreme Court not the state rights issue

10:07 Qualified judicial nominees would be nice to see some get nominated finally rather than the croneism that has been going on.

10:08 OK they agree on this one. Then I think we should move on.

10:09 Obama is taking the bull by the horns here and telling us what he believes. Might be a dangerous thing to do but refreshing to here.

10:10 Lilly Leadbetter is a good example for him to use for this question.

10:12 And McCain is on the attack again trying to make Obama the villain of the piece.

10:13 Obama is again trying to set the facts straight

10:14 Point for Obama for talking about other options and sex ed

10:15 And on the attack is McCain. He is trying to make it sound like Obama is playing word games with the American people

10:16 And we end with Education a good topic indeed

10:17 Nice tie in with other problems Obama and getting the words national security out there before McCain

10:18 Not bad and he does bring up the responcibility of the parents for their children

10:19 Choice and competition? The New York experiment with for profit public schools failed spectaculary.

10:20 Not certify teachers just because they are ex-military? What?

10:21 Nice play on “No Child left behind” which has been a disaster for most school districts. School vouchers don’t work. Point for Obama

10:23 McCain is defending NCLB? It has been the biggest problem for the schools who have gotten rid of creative programs to teach to the bloody test.

10:25 And he is bring in Autism again for what purpose?

10;26 thank you Mr. Obama for saying that vouchers don’t work.

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10:27 McCain blinking like crazy. Maybe he suffers from dry eye. Does his speech sound a bit more slurred than usual? He is just going through his talking points.

10:29 Obama is going through his talking points now.

McCain came in on the attack more this go around. Obama managed to defend.

I don’t think McCain got that big hit he was looking for. He seemed petulant at points.

Pretty even match over all. I hope Joe the Plumber was watching.

446 comments on “Presidential Debate Mark III”

  2. And now McCain is back to the slime in this “in the Illinois state senate” charge. Way to squander your good ideas, John.

    And he started out well — the idea of “changing the culture of America” for abortion is a perfectly good one. Now he’s talking directly about groups being “pro-abortion” (name one), etc.

    Maybe Obama will point out that McCain’s own running mate wants a fifteen-year-old raped by her own father to be denied any chance at an abortion.

  3. If a child needs medical care following an abortion, it’s clearly not a legal first-trimester abortion. It’s a preterm delivery, which is totally different, and any real doctor is going to know the difference. You’re skewing the facts, McCain.

    DON’T screw with Roe v. Wade, boys. Contrary to popular belief, it’s an option, not a mandate.

  4. If a child needs medical care following an abortion, it’s clearly not a legal first-trimester abortion. It’s a preterm delivery, which is totally different, and any real doctor is going to know the difference. You’re skewing the facts, McCain.

    DON’T screw with Roe v. Wade, boys. Contrary to popular belief, it’s an option, not a mandate.

  5. And “eloquence” again used as a sneer. We’re not far from “uppity,” I’m afraid.

    “Of course we have to come together” — but you’re talking against the “other side” with such fervor that you’re not exactly making that likely.

  6. And “eloquence” again used as a sneer. We’re not far from “uppity,” I’m afraid.

    “Of course we have to come together” — but you’re talking against the “other side” with such fervor that you’re not exactly making that likely.

  9. “I don’t know. It could be a cool ášš Godzilla type of movie concept.”

    HA! Thanks, Jerry! 🙂

  12. “He is trying to make it sound like Obama is playing word games with the American people”

    Of cource he is. It is a crime in this society to sound inteligent.

  13. “He is trying to make it sound like Obama is playing word games with the American people”

    Of cource he is. It is a crime in this society to sound inteligent.

  16. Loving the Legion of Three worlds. Johns/Perez is my ticket for ’08.

    No offence PAD, still love and buy your stuff.

  17. Mentioning New Orleans as a good model for ANYTHING might be a bad plan at the moment, John…

  18. Mentioning New Orleans as a good model for ANYTHING might be a bad plan at the moment, John…

  21. Loving the Legion of Three worlds. Johns/Perez is my ticket for ’08.

    Now THERE’S a team to beat.

    Hm. PAD/Frank to compete?

  22. Loving the Legion of Three worlds. Johns/Perez is my ticket for ’08.

    Now THERE’S a team to beat.

    Hm. PAD/Frank to compete?

  23. That’s twice that Michelle Obama was referred to as “your wife”. Formality? Anger? Forgot her name?

  24. I was going to make a snarky comment about Joe the Plumber here but John McCain keeps interrupting every time I try to complete a sentence.

  25. I was going to make a snarky comment about Joe the Plumber here but John McCain keeps interrupting every time I try to complete a sentence.

  28. No, actually, Senator McCain, Palin doesn’t know more about raising autistic kids than anyone else. Trig has Down Syndrome, not autism.

  29. No, actually, Senator McCain, Palin doesn’t know more about raising autistic kids than anyone else. Trig has Down Syndrome, not autism.

  33. On the one hand, a much better debate than last week. I think both of them were much more animated and more willing to respond to another.

    On the other … no way did McCain remotely change the dynamic here, and I think he had to. This may have been his last chance short of a miracle.

  34. On the one hand, a much better debate than last week. I think both of them were much more animated and more willing to respond to another.

    On the other … no way did McCain remotely change the dynamic here, and I think he had to. This may have been his last chance short of a miracle.

  35. What good are vouchers except to pull the better kids into a cluster – you’re still left with schools now entirely made up of delinquents and low-income students who don’t want to learn, are years behind in grade levels, and who have no desire to be there. School will still not fix their economic problems, their home problems, and the blatant drug use in their immediate communities – or the two or three kids they may have by the age of 18? Who are you going to get to teach there? School is not going to solve the social problems that make these kids fail in the first place.

    And Sarah Palin knows nothing about Autism! McCain, bring your blinky little eyes to my house, and then we’ll talk. Don’t bring Sarah Palin; I won’t let her in.

  36. What good are vouchers except to pull the better kids into a cluster – you’re still left with schools now entirely made up of delinquents and low-income students who don’t want to learn, are years behind in grade levels, and who have no desire to be there. School will still not fix their economic problems, their home problems, and the blatant drug use in their immediate communities – or the two or three kids they may have by the age of 18? Who are you going to get to teach there? School is not going to solve the social problems that make these kids fail in the first place.

    And Sarah Palin knows nothing about Autism! McCain, bring your blinky little eyes to my house, and then we’ll talk. Don’t bring Sarah Palin; I won’t let her in.

  40. McCain’s toast. I’m gonna go back in there, switch away from this lámëášš mess, and watch Forbidden Planet. Or maybe Smokey and the Bandit. Something that’s a little more entertaining than watching a wardheeling hack get eviscerated by his much smarter oponent.

    Wake me when we have a new president. Say, in half an hour.

    Miles

  41. McCain’s toast. I’m gonna go back in there, switch away from this lámëášš mess, and watch Forbidden Planet. Or maybe Smokey and the Bandit. Something that’s a little more entertaining than watching a wardheeling hack get eviscerated by his much smarter oponent.

    Wake me when we have a new president. Say, in half an hour.

    Miles

  42. “I will work tirelessly every day” — as opposed to our current president?

    Laptop losing power, so I’m signing off here. ‘Night, all.

  43. “I will work tirelessly every day” — as opposed to our current president?

    Laptop losing power, so I’m signing off here. ‘Night, all.

  44. I will do everything Senator Obama is promising by cutting spending.

    Which is the WORST thing a government can do in a recession or depression….

  45. “No we can’t stop invoking Joe.”

    “We’ve got American voters to put into hospitals for liver damage that they’ll need to recover from indefinitely, certainly leaving them with no money to pay the bills to keep their homes (and their proof of residency when we challenge them to prove they live in the states they live in, and we WILL challenge them on this) and not enough health to go to the polls to vote for Obama.”

    “Via the Joe the Plumber Drinking Game.”

    Brought to you by your frustrated neighbourhood Canadian.

  46. “No we can’t stop invoking Joe.”

    “We’ve got American voters to put into hospitals for liver damage that they’ll need to recover from indefinitely, certainly leaving them with no money to pay the bills to keep their homes (and their proof of residency when we challenge them to prove they live in the states they live in, and we WILL challenge them on this) and not enough health to go to the polls to vote for Obama.”

    “Via the Joe the Plumber Drinking Game.”

    Brought to you by your frustrated neighbourhood Canadian.

  47. 10:25 And he is bring in Autism again for what purpose?

    Because McCain doesn’t know the difference between Autism and Down Syndrome, and thinks because Trig has Downs she can now be an expert.

  48. 10:25 And he is bring in Autism again for what purpose?

    Because McCain doesn’t know the difference between Autism and Down Syndrome, and thinks because Trig has Downs she can now be an expert.

  49. McCain is obsessed with Autism because their neurological perception filters allow them to see him blink at a normal rate. They’re his new base.

  50. McCain is obsessed with Autism because their neurological perception filters allow them to see him blink at a normal rate. They’re his new base.

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