Presidential Debate Mark III

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Hi all I am here. This is Kathleen typing since Peter is bowling this evening.

9:00 It’s a table debate. Makes it feel more down home don’ t it?

9:01 Domestic it is.

9:02 Aww they greeted each other nicely. Economy is the first issue up.

9:03 Thanks and Nancy Regan is in the hospital? What does this have to do with the economy?

9:04 John Q Public: We’re as mad as hëll and we aren’t going to take it any more

9:05 McCain makes some really good points of where the money needs to go for homeowners not speculators.

9:06 Rescue for the Middle Class. Good use of Buzz Words. Point for Obama.

9:07 Obama brings up that there is the long term and the short term.

9:07 McCain seems to be on the attack….and there goes the sound bite.

9:08 Nice one Obama (You are watching your own ads aren’t you?) I heard the audience laugh on that one.

9:10 Nice rebuttal by Obama but I think McCain is setting up that he will be on the attack all evening.

9:11 Can we stop talking about Joe the Plumber? How many times has McCain said Joe the Plumber? (Yes folks it is the new My Friends)

9:12 Obama needs to rein McCain in.

9:13 Moving onto the Deficit which is a 800 pound Gorilla in the room after hand out all this money.

9:14 Obama admits we have been living beyond our means (being America) Pay as you go is not a bad way to go but I don’t think it is plausible.

9:16 McCain is talking about the past again. Bob brings him back.

9;17 who has “countries that don’t like us very much” in the pool of phrases we have heard before

9:18 And WHO increased the government? Would that be Bush and the Republicans?
How did we get onto Energy from the Deficit?

9:19 He got the Planetarium in again. That projector is a great over simplification of what that object was.

9:20 Obama points out who was in the office and where we were. Smart move on his part.

9:20 Bob is trying to get it back to the Deficit and McCain is off and running again.

9:22 McCain is trying to say he is a Maverick without saying Maverick

9:22 Obama is sounding a little defensive but is trying to steer away from sounding so
Fox News! Good one Obabma. Again there is laughter in the audience

(:24 Please OH Please DON”T show us those scars!

9:25 OH this should be interesting. The High Road and the lack of walking on it

9:25 Yeah it has been tough all over. Town Hall meetings? Did you see how you did on the last one Mr. McCain?

9:26 McCain is really reaching here. And he has NOT repudiated many of those sorts of remarks no matter what he says. Oh boy he can prove it.

9:28 Obama better get a handle on this quick and there he goes. McCain doesn’t sound happy about what he is saying either. Just don’t say that you started it.

9:30 McCain watches football. Wonder what sport Obama watches? I’m betting basketball.

9:31 there is Joe again

9:31 Obama is going to step into the one with both feet. And there is the rebuttal on that sound bite.

9:32 Obama is trying to take the high road and McCain keeps butting in. Not quite cricket

9:34 Again I hear the audience giggle

9:35 Nice “disagree without being disagreeable”

9:36 There is the hit and the punch. Now can Obama sort this out without giving more fodder? Nice start now let see where he is going with it. He is doing an OK job of explaining what happened. Putting names that he does talk to is a good touch.

9:39 This is not making McCain looked good at all. Now he is trying to get on point again.

9:40 People to bring into the Government. VP choices

9:42 Ok he is using Biden to get some talking points across

9:42 Role model? To whom?

9:43 Palin is up to her ášš in the good ol’ boy network in Alaska. Just look at the indictment.

9:44 Nice side step Obama.

9:45 McCain has been couched to death on this question.

9:46 McCain is on the attack again. Obama not given the oppertunity to respond.

9:46 Now we are into Energy policy and a real number is asked for. Not going to get it but he asked real nice

9:48 McCain is very comfortable with this question and gave his rote answer. Let’s see how Obama does.

9:49 Obama is playing the camera more than McCain. He is look at Bob or Obama.

9:50 Can’t drill our way out is a good phrase to use

9:51 McCain is in for the attack again. Trying for the downhome touch again. He didn’t say Elite but he came d*mn close

9:52 Point for McCain for pointing out that Obama has never been to South America. Has Bush?

9:53 Pulling it back to Energy and the American auto industry. Not a bad way to go.

9:55 I figured that McCain was going to bring up Chavez. Restrict trade and raise taxes. he is really trying to get those sound bites in.

9:56 Health Care. Boy this is a sticky subject

9:57 Make sure you keep it simple Obama and push it onto the Insurance companies. That Fed pool won’t work for the general public. It is suplimented up the ying yang by the government. At least he admits that it will cost to start but how it might be better later

9:58 How about NOT CUTTING PE AND RECESS OUT OF THE SCHOOL DAY TO TEACH TO THE TEST

Oh for the love of mother mary, Joe the plumber again?

5,000 will NOT pay for healthcare in the New York industry. And Obama has answered these charges before (like the last two debates)

10:00 Obama reminds McCain that he has answered these questions before. Now Obama is talking to Joe. I want to see a picture of this magic plumber.

10:02 Obama is right about cherry picking clients. He gave a number! 12,000 is about right for a family policy.

10:03 McCain needs to get off the Joe jag. Obama just rebutted this just 90 seconds ago. And McCain had drank the Kool Aid about his health plan.

10:04 We have heard this all in the last debate, There is nothing new here. Why don’t we move along?

10:06 Roe vs. Wade and the Supreme Court. Good question

10:06 McCain is doing well on this one in terms of the Supreme Court not the state rights issue

10:07 Qualified judicial nominees would be nice to see some get nominated finally rather than the croneism that has been going on.

10:08 OK they agree on this one. Then I think we should move on.

10:09 Obama is taking the bull by the horns here and telling us what he believes. Might be a dangerous thing to do but refreshing to here.

10:10 Lilly Leadbetter is a good example for him to use for this question.

10:12 And McCain is on the attack again trying to make Obama the villain of the piece.

10:13 Obama is again trying to set the facts straight

10:14 Point for Obama for talking about other options and sex ed

10:15 And on the attack is McCain. He is trying to make it sound like Obama is playing word games with the American people

10:16 And we end with Education a good topic indeed

10:17 Nice tie in with other problems Obama and getting the words national security out there before McCain

10:18 Not bad and he does bring up the responcibility of the parents for their children

10:19 Choice and competition? The New York experiment with for profit public schools failed spectaculary.

10:20 Not certify teachers just because they are ex-military? What?

10:21 Nice play on “No Child left behind” which has been a disaster for most school districts. School vouchers don’t work. Point for Obama

10:23 McCain is defending NCLB? It has been the biggest problem for the schools who have gotten rid of creative programs to teach to the bloody test.

10:25 And he is bring in Autism again for what purpose?

10;26 thank you Mr. Obama for saying that vouchers don’t work.

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10:27 McCain blinking like crazy. Maybe he suffers from dry eye. Does his speech sound a bit more slurred than usual? He is just going through his talking points.

10:29 Obama is going through his talking points now.

McCain came in on the attack more this go around. Obama managed to defend.

I don’t think McCain got that big hit he was looking for. He seemed petulant at points.

Pretty even match over all. I hope Joe the Plumber was watching.

446 comments on “Presidential Debate Mark III”

  1. Blinky, blinky, blinky – I’m getting sick on all McCain’s blinking. Obama doesn’t blink even half as much. Anyone know anything about body language?

    It’s the anti-depressants. Blinking is a known side effect of at least Paxil.

  2. “I admire his eloquence”? Why not just say “That one sounds mighty articulate there”?

  3. “I admire his eloquence”? Why not just say “That one sounds mighty articulate there”?

  4. Is McCain looking as weak and flailing as he sounds on the radio?

    Jerry, whenever McCain speaks, all I can think of is when my parents used to close the bathroom window on the cat, and you knew it happened when he made the leap from the porch railing and instead of landing in the window you heard the scrape of scrabbling claws as he slid down the aluminum siding, unable to stop the fall. It’s that same desperate but futile scrabbling.

  5. Is McCain looking as weak and flailing as he sounds on the radio?

    Jerry, whenever McCain speaks, all I can think of is when my parents used to close the bathroom window on the cat, and you knew it happened when he made the leap from the porch railing and instead of landing in the window you heard the scrape of scrabbling claws as he slid down the aluminum siding, unable to stop the fall. It’s that same desperate but futile scrabbling.

  7. Obama should’ve said, “No, she’s is clearly unqualfiied to be President.” There’s nothing wrong with giving kudos to your opponent, but there’s also nothing wrong with being honest about one who genuinely isn’t qualified for such a high office. Since Obama could cite plenty of reasons to back up this statement, which people like us have been discussing for weeks, he wouldn’t have to worry about it making him look bad.

    Actually, Jerry, McCain is doing a lot of grinning while Obama is talking, as he did, for example, when Obama was talking about ACORN.

    I say YES to nuclear power.

  8. Obama should’ve said, “No, she’s is clearly unqualfiied to be President.” There’s nothing wrong with giving kudos to your opponent, but there’s also nothing wrong with being honest about one who genuinely isn’t qualified for such a high office. Since Obama could cite plenty of reasons to back up this statement, which people like us have been discussing for weeks, he wouldn’t have to worry about it making him look bad.

    Actually, Jerry, McCain is doing a lot of grinning while Obama is talking, as he did, for example, when Obama was talking about ACORN.

    I say YES to nuclear power.

  11. I thought it officially became a depression when the banks failed? That’s what they said in the spring.

  12. I thought it officially became a depression when the banks failed? That’s what they said in the spring.

  15. If anybody wants it, drop me an email and I’ll send you Maureen Dowd’s editorial from last month in the NY Times. Aaron Sorkin wrote her a piece where Obama goes to visit former president Jed Bartlet.

    I mention this because there a great bit where Bartlet makes a snarky but accurate comment about being exceptional and articulate.

    Miles

  16. Barring the tax credit, I don’t see much to disagree with in McCain’s plan. Community health centers and wellness care, absolutely. Better nutrition in schools, absolutely.

  17. Barring the tax credit, I don’t see much to disagree with in McCain’s plan. Community health centers and wellness care, absolutely. Better nutrition in schools, absolutely.

  22. When Obama just said that the fine was “zero”, McCain genuinely looked shocked. Interesting.

  23. When Obama just said that the fine was “zero”, McCain genuinely looked shocked. Interesting.

  24. HOw are you going to have parents get involved in good nutrition when the schools have to send the kids home with backpacks of food on Fridays so they have enough food to eat over the weekend? 79 cents will buy you two liters of soda, but a gallon of milk is $4, an artificial price set by the government. Can’t have it both ways, mister.

    Too much Marie Antoinette, McCain. Get a reality check.

  25. McCain seems to have missed the memo that the negativity is HURTING him with the general public. He’s doing far more attacking of Obama than addressing the issues. Hopefully, this election will have a result which sends a message that endless attack dogging isn’t the be-all and end-all way of winning election.

    (Granted, Obama has the advantage of not needing to gain ground. But it’s semi-shocking when McCain actually discusses what he would do, rather than makes negative claims about Obama and Biden.)

  26. McCain seems to have missed the memo that the negativity is HURTING him with the general public. He’s doing far more attacking of Obama than addressing the issues. Hopefully, this election will have a result which sends a message that endless attack dogging isn’t the be-all and end-all way of winning election.

    (Granted, Obama has the advantage of not needing to gain ground. But it’s semi-shocking when McCain actually discusses what he would do, rather than makes negative claims about Obama and Biden.)

  27. 10:00 Obama reminds McCain that he has answered these questions before. Now Obama is talking to Joe. I want to see a picture of this magic plumber.

    Look on Youtube.

    John’s on Joe again.

  28. 10:00 Obama reminds McCain that he has answered these questions before. Now Obama is talking to Joe. I want to see a picture of this magic plumber.

    Look on Youtube.

    John’s on Joe again.

  29. I tell you if either person can get Joe the plumber to appear in a commercial they gain 5 points easy.

  30. I tell you if either person can get Joe the plumber to appear in a commercial they gain 5 points easy.

  33. VS what, John? You taxing Joe’s business for the healthcare that he gives so that he has to drop it and his employees go somewhere that can afford to provide it?

    Great plan, John.

  34. VS what, John? You taxing Joe’s business for the healthcare that he gives so that he has to drop it and his employees go somewhere that can afford to provide it?

    Great plan, John.

  35. When McCain talks about us having “too much government,” that’s unlikely to work during an economic time when the population is crying out for help from those same feds…

  36. Would McCain actually tax health benefits? He’s not denying it at all in his response.

    (Funny Freudian slip – “Senator Government”! Really didn’t seem deliberate.)

  37. Would McCain actually tax health benefits? He’s not denying it at all in his response.

    (Funny Freudian slip – “Senator Government”! Really didn’t seem deliberate.)

  40. A Roe v. Wade question as well.

    I think I’m very happy with the moderating tonight — seems like the best moderator of the four.

  41. I have to give McCain points for”no litmus test”, and his Court appointment answer in general.

  42. I have to give McCain points for”no litmus test”, and his Court appointment answer in general.

  45. McCain is a for state rights and the makes him a Federalist? The Federalist party wanted a strong central government

  46. McCain is a for state rights and the makes him a Federalist? The Federalist party wanted a strong central government

  48. I have to give McCain points for”no litmus test”, and his Court appointment answer in general.

    If he does what he says. Any reason to believe he’d do that?

  49. I have to give McCain points for”no litmus test”, and his Court appointment answer in general.

    If he does what he says. Any reason to believe he’d do that?

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