Hi all I am here. This is Kathleen typing since Peter is bowling this evening.
9:00 It’s a table debate. Makes it feel more down home don’ t it?
9:01 Domestic it is.
9:02 Aww they greeted each other nicely. Economy is the first issue up.
9:03 Thanks and Nancy Regan is in the hospital? What does this have to do with the economy?
9:04 John Q Public: We’re as mad as hëll and we aren’t going to take it any more
9:05 McCain makes some really good points of where the money needs to go for homeowners not speculators.
9:06 Rescue for the Middle Class. Good use of Buzz Words. Point for Obama.
9:07 Obama brings up that there is the long term and the short term.
9:07 McCain seems to be on the attack….and there goes the sound bite.
9:08 Nice one Obama (You are watching your own ads aren’t you?) I heard the audience laugh on that one.
9:10 Nice rebuttal by Obama but I think McCain is setting up that he will be on the attack all evening.
9:11 Can we stop talking about Joe the Plumber? How many times has McCain said Joe the Plumber? (Yes folks it is the new My Friends)
9:12 Obama needs to rein McCain in.
9:13 Moving onto the Deficit which is a 800 pound Gorilla in the room after hand out all this money.
9:14 Obama admits we have been living beyond our means (being America) Pay as you go is not a bad way to go but I don’t think it is plausible.
9:16 McCain is talking about the past again. Bob brings him back.
9;17 who has “countries that don’t like us very much” in the pool of phrases we have heard before
9:18 And WHO increased the government? Would that be Bush and the Republicans?
How did we get onto Energy from the Deficit?
9:19 He got the Planetarium in again. That projector is a great over simplification of what that object was.
9:20 Obama points out who was in the office and where we were. Smart move on his part.
9:20 Bob is trying to get it back to the Deficit and McCain is off and running again.
9:22 McCain is trying to say he is a Maverick without saying Maverick
9:22 Obama is sounding a little defensive but is trying to steer away from sounding so
Fox News! Good one Obabma. Again there is laughter in the audience
(:24 Please OH Please DON”T show us those scars!
9:25 OH this should be interesting. The High Road and the lack of walking on it
9:25 Yeah it has been tough all over. Town Hall meetings? Did you see how you did on the last one Mr. McCain?
9:26 McCain is really reaching here. And he has NOT repudiated many of those sorts of remarks no matter what he says. Oh boy he can prove it.
9:28 Obama better get a handle on this quick and there he goes. McCain doesn’t sound happy about what he is saying either. Just don’t say that you started it.
9:30 McCain watches football. Wonder what sport Obama watches? I’m betting basketball.
9:31 there is Joe again
9:31 Obama is going to step into the one with both feet. And there is the rebuttal on that sound bite.
9:32 Obama is trying to take the high road and McCain keeps butting in. Not quite cricket
9:34 Again I hear the audience giggle
9:35 Nice “disagree without being disagreeable”
9:36 There is the hit and the punch. Now can Obama sort this out without giving more fodder? Nice start now let see where he is going with it. He is doing an OK job of explaining what happened. Putting names that he does talk to is a good touch.
9:39 This is not making McCain looked good at all. Now he is trying to get on point again.
9:40 People to bring into the Government. VP choices
9:42 Ok he is using Biden to get some talking points across
9:42 Role model? To whom?
9:43 Palin is up to her ášš in the good ol’ boy network in Alaska. Just look at the indictment.
9:44 Nice side step Obama.
9:45 McCain has been couched to death on this question.
9:46 McCain is on the attack again. Obama not given the oppertunity to respond.
9:46 Now we are into Energy policy and a real number is asked for. Not going to get it but he asked real nice
9:48 McCain is very comfortable with this question and gave his rote answer. Let’s see how Obama does.
9:49 Obama is playing the camera more than McCain. He is look at Bob or Obama.
9:50 Can’t drill our way out is a good phrase to use
9:51 McCain is in for the attack again. Trying for the downhome touch again. He didn’t say Elite but he came d*mn close
9:52 Point for McCain for pointing out that Obama has never been to South America. Has Bush?
9:53 Pulling it back to Energy and the American auto industry. Not a bad way to go.
9:55 I figured that McCain was going to bring up Chavez. Restrict trade and raise taxes. he is really trying to get those sound bites in.
9:56 Health Care. Boy this is a sticky subject
9:57 Make sure you keep it simple Obama and push it onto the Insurance companies. That Fed pool won’t work for the general public. It is suplimented up the ying yang by the government. At least he admits that it will cost to start but how it might be better later
9:58 How about NOT CUTTING PE AND RECESS OUT OF THE SCHOOL DAY TO TEACH TO THE TEST
Oh for the love of mother mary, Joe the plumber again?
5,000 will NOT pay for healthcare in the New York industry. And Obama has answered these charges before (like the last two debates)
10:00 Obama reminds McCain that he has answered these questions before. Now Obama is talking to Joe. I want to see a picture of this magic plumber.
10:02 Obama is right about cherry picking clients. He gave a number! 12,000 is about right for a family policy.
10:03 McCain needs to get off the Joe jag. Obama just rebutted this just 90 seconds ago. And McCain had drank the Kool Aid about his health plan.
10:04 We have heard this all in the last debate, There is nothing new here. Why don’t we move along?
10:06 Roe vs. Wade and the Supreme Court. Good question
10:06 McCain is doing well on this one in terms of the Supreme Court not the state rights issue
10:07 Qualified judicial nominees would be nice to see some get nominated finally rather than the croneism that has been going on.
10:08 OK they agree on this one. Then I think we should move on.
10:09 Obama is taking the bull by the horns here and telling us what he believes. Might be a dangerous thing to do but refreshing to here.
10:10 Lilly Leadbetter is a good example for him to use for this question.
10:12 And McCain is on the attack again trying to make Obama the villain of the piece.
10:13 Obama is again trying to set the facts straight
10:14 Point for Obama for talking about other options and sex ed
10:15 And on the attack is McCain. He is trying to make it sound like Obama is playing word games with the American people
10:16 And we end with Education a good topic indeed
10:17 Nice tie in with other problems Obama and getting the words national security out there before McCain
10:18 Not bad and he does bring up the responcibility of the parents for their children
10:19 Choice and competition? The New York experiment with for profit public schools failed spectaculary.
10:20 Not certify teachers just because they are ex-military? What?
10:21 Nice play on “No Child left behind” which has been a disaster for most school districts. School vouchers don’t work. Point for Obama
10:23 McCain is defending NCLB? It has been the biggest problem for the schools who have gotten rid of creative programs to teach to the bloody test.
10:25 And he is bring in Autism again for what purpose?
10;26 thank you Mr. Obama for saying that vouchers don’t work.
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10:27 McCain blinking like crazy. Maybe he suffers from dry eye. Does his speech sound a bit more slurred than usual? He is just going through his talking points.
10:29 Obama is going through his talking points now.
McCain came in on the attack more this go around. Obama managed to defend.
I don’t think McCain got that big hit he was looking for. He seemed petulant at points.
Pretty even match over all. I hope Joe the Plumber was watching.





Blinky, blinky, blinky – I’m getting sick on all McCain’s blinking. Obama doesn’t blink even half as much. Anyone know anything about body language?
Blinky, blinky, blinky – I’m getting sick on all McCain’s blinking. Obama doesn’t blink even half as much. Anyone know anything about body language?
Yes, the loss of the budget SURPLUS is disgusting… McCain with a good line about “I am not President Bush. IF you wanted to run against him, should have run in 2004.” Either the format or the urgency of the occasion seems to have made McCain pretty sharp so far. ..Ooo, “Even Fox News diputes it” 🙂
You get scars from disagreeing with members of your party?
You get scars from disagreeing with members of your party?
“Even Fox news disputes it.”
That gat a laugh from the crowd. Wish I could have seen the faces of mcCain and the Fox News zoo when that zinger flew.
“Even Fox news disputes it.”
That gat a laugh from the crowd. Wish I could have seen the faces of mcCain and the Fox News zoo when that zinger flew.
This is going to be a VERRRRRY interesting question…
This is going to be a VERRRRRY interesting question…
Ooo, Schaffer is trying to force the mudslinging to the face of your opponent!
Um, John? I don’t think people would call segregation “the worst of American history.” The slaves and those in the internment camps during WW2 would beg to differ, for instance.
In general, I think McCain’s not doing a lot here.
Um, John? I don’t think people would call segregation “the worst of American history.” The slaves and those in the internment camps during WW2 would beg to differ, for instance.
In general, I think McCain’s not doing a lot here.
Actually, I think the 2004 election was much nastier, and had far more ads.
Actually, I think the 2004 election was much nastier, and had far more ads.
You repudiate everything that’s said by someone on your side that’s negative??? Okay, John, then repudiate the things that Palin says right there and right now on that very stage or shut the fûçk up about it.
You repudiate everything that’s said by someone on your side that’s negative??? Okay, John, then repudiate the things that Palin says right there and right now on that very stage or shut the fûçk up about it.
9:27 McCain says he has repudiated every vicious attack by Repbublicans on Obama? Hey, Senator, how can you, when you and your campaign has authored them, and the rest are your supporters?
Then he says that Obama has spent not only more on negative ads than he has, but the most in history? Gimme a break. Obama has been a class act in this campaign, Senator. You have not.
9:27 McCain says he has repudiated every vicious attack by Repbublicans on Obama? Hey, Senator, how can you, when you and your campaign has authored them, and the rest are your supporters?
Then he says that Obama has spent not only more on negative ads than he has, but the most in history? Gimme a break. Obama has been a class act in this campaign, Senator. You have not.
Obama’s calling him “John” now. Interesting. Did he do that in the previous debates?
Obama just called the waaaambulance for McCain.
Obama just called the waaaambulance for McCain.
McCain: “Stop picking on me! Wah! You have more money than me. Not fair!”
McCain: “Stop picking on me! Wah! You have more money than me. Not fair!”
We’re getting very close to a Dole-like “stop lying about my record” growl here, I think…
We’re getting very close to a Dole-like “stop lying about my record” growl here, I think…
Joe the Plumber IX: Joe Returns
See it at a campaign stop near you.
Joe the Plumber IX: Joe Returns
See it at a campaign stop near you.
“Terrorist and kill him…”
And John tries to cut him off again.
Obama specifically mentioned the “kill him” comment. GOOD — it’s time to point out the rally issues here.
It’s interesting to look at just the different ways in which the candidates are approaching this. Obama’s being a lot more measured — McCain’s tried to interrupt Obama three times in this answer alone. Interesting.
Obama specifically mentioned the “kill him” comment. GOOD — it’s time to point out the rally issues here.
It’s interesting to look at just the different ways in which the candidates are approaching this. Obama’s being a lot more measured — McCain’s tried to interrupt Obama three times in this answer alone. Interesting.
McCain: When you get 20-30,000 people at a rally…
Yeah, but you don’t get that many. He claims it, 20,000 people in a arena that only sits 8,000.
McCain: When you get 20-30,000 people at a rally…
Yeah, but you don’t get that many. He claims it, 20,000 people in a arena that only sits 8,000.
You’re defending nurses and veterans. Fine. What the hëll does it have to do with Obama’s point?
And please, please, please someone (either Obama or Schieffer) mention Palin’s name specifically as someone who has NOT been repudiated.
You’re defending nurses and veterans. Fine. What the hëll does it have to do with Obama’s point?
And please, please, please someone (either Obama or Schieffer) mention Palin’s name specifically as someone who has NOT been repudiated.
9:34 Now McCain is defending the people at his rallies, while simultaneously addressing the people who’ve yelled out hateful things, claming that he is not responsible for that, and that there have been similar such things at Obama’s rallies.
Bûllšhìŧ.
Who at an Obama rally yelled out for McCain to be “killed”?
9:30 McCain watches football. Wonder what sport Obama watches? I’m betting basketball.
I’m offended, offended I say, by that stereotype. You must now serve penance in Cultural Sensitivity Class for three turns of a Bumbledumb’s head.
9:30 McCain watches football. Wonder what sport Obama watches? I’m betting basketball.
I’m offended, offended I say, by that stereotype. You must now serve penance in Cultural Sensitivity Class for three turns of a Bumbledumb’s head.
Obama’s got a big grin on his face now that McCain has mentioned Ayers and ACORN. I think this is going to be a really interesting response.
Obama’s got a big grin on his face now that McCain has mentioned Ayers and ACORN. I think this is going to be a really interesting response.
McCain: “I don’t care about some aged terrorist at all. I just want to know the extent of your relationship with him.”
Gods!
McCain: “I don’t care about some aged terrorist at all. I just want to know the extent of your relationship with him.”
Gods!
It’s not a stereotype this time, Jerry — Obama is an avowed basketball fan, which I think was the point.
It’s not a stereotype this time, Jerry — Obama is an avowed basketball fan, which I think was the point.
“I don’t care about some aged terrorist at all.”
That’s why your people have been bringingbhim up every five seconds for two solid weeks?
Ah yes, love those people at the rallies, John – the religious fanatics and the racists and the homophobes – the same kind of people we’re at war with in Iraq so we can “preserve our freedom.”
Ah yes, love those people at the rallies, John – the religious fanatics and the racists and the homophobes – the same kind of people we’re at war with in Iraq so we can “preserve our freedom.”
Missed Obama line: “If you want to run against Bill Ayers, John, you should have run 40 years ago.”
On the other hand, Obama’s “here’s who I DO associate with” line is freakin’ gold.
Missed Obama line: “If you want to run against Bill Ayers, John, you should have run 40 years ago.”
On the other hand, Obama’s “here’s who I DO associate with” line is freakin’ gold.
McCain: When you get 20-30,000 people at a rally…
Yeah, but you don’t get that many. He claims it, 20,000 people in a arena that only sits 8,000.
We had about 25,000 here in Richmond Virginia 2 days ago. Was supposed to be in an 8000 venue but had to be moved to our Nascar track to accomidate everyone.
McCain: When you get 20-30,000 people at a rally…
Yeah, but you don’t get that many. He claims it, 20,000 people in a arena that only sits 8,000.
We had about 25,000 here in Richmond Virginia 2 days ago. Was supposed to be in an 8000 venue but had to be moved to our Nascar track to accomidate everyone.