Hi all I am here. This is Kathleen typing since Peter is bowling this evening.
9:00 It’s a table debate. Makes it feel more down home don’ t it?
9:01 Domestic it is.
9:02 Aww they greeted each other nicely. Economy is the first issue up.
9:03 Thanks and Nancy Regan is in the hospital? What does this have to do with the economy?
9:04 John Q Public: We’re as mad as hëll and we aren’t going to take it any more
9:05 McCain makes some really good points of where the money needs to go for homeowners not speculators.
9:06 Rescue for the Middle Class. Good use of Buzz Words. Point for Obama.
9:07 Obama brings up that there is the long term and the short term.
9:07 McCain seems to be on the attack….and there goes the sound bite.
9:08 Nice one Obama (You are watching your own ads aren’t you?) I heard the audience laugh on that one.
9:10 Nice rebuttal by Obama but I think McCain is setting up that he will be on the attack all evening.
9:11 Can we stop talking about Joe the Plumber? How many times has McCain said Joe the Plumber? (Yes folks it is the new My Friends)
9:12 Obama needs to rein McCain in.
9:13 Moving onto the Deficit which is a 800 pound Gorilla in the room after hand out all this money.
9:14 Obama admits we have been living beyond our means (being America) Pay as you go is not a bad way to go but I don’t think it is plausible.
9:16 McCain is talking about the past again. Bob brings him back.
9;17 who has “countries that don’t like us very much” in the pool of phrases we have heard before
9:18 And WHO increased the government? Would that be Bush and the Republicans?
How did we get onto Energy from the Deficit?
9:19 He got the Planetarium in again. That projector is a great over simplification of what that object was.
9:20 Obama points out who was in the office and where we were. Smart move on his part.
9:20 Bob is trying to get it back to the Deficit and McCain is off and running again.
9:22 McCain is trying to say he is a Maverick without saying Maverick
9:22 Obama is sounding a little defensive but is trying to steer away from sounding so
Fox News! Good one Obabma. Again there is laughter in the audience
(:24 Please OH Please DON”T show us those scars!
9:25 OH this should be interesting. The High Road and the lack of walking on it
9:25 Yeah it has been tough all over. Town Hall meetings? Did you see how you did on the last one Mr. McCain?
9:26 McCain is really reaching here. And he has NOT repudiated many of those sorts of remarks no matter what he says. Oh boy he can prove it.
9:28 Obama better get a handle on this quick and there he goes. McCain doesn’t sound happy about what he is saying either. Just don’t say that you started it.
9:30 McCain watches football. Wonder what sport Obama watches? I’m betting basketball.
9:31 there is Joe again
9:31 Obama is going to step into the one with both feet. And there is the rebuttal on that sound bite.
9:32 Obama is trying to take the high road and McCain keeps butting in. Not quite cricket
9:34 Again I hear the audience giggle
9:35 Nice “disagree without being disagreeable”
9:36 There is the hit and the punch. Now can Obama sort this out without giving more fodder? Nice start now let see where he is going with it. He is doing an OK job of explaining what happened. Putting names that he does talk to is a good touch.
9:39 This is not making McCain looked good at all. Now he is trying to get on point again.
9:40 People to bring into the Government. VP choices
9:42 Ok he is using Biden to get some talking points across
9:42 Role model? To whom?
9:43 Palin is up to her ášš in the good ol’ boy network in Alaska. Just look at the indictment.
9:44 Nice side step Obama.
9:45 McCain has been couched to death on this question.
9:46 McCain is on the attack again. Obama not given the oppertunity to respond.
9:46 Now we are into Energy policy and a real number is asked for. Not going to get it but he asked real nice
9:48 McCain is very comfortable with this question and gave his rote answer. Let’s see how Obama does.
9:49 Obama is playing the camera more than McCain. He is look at Bob or Obama.
9:50 Can’t drill our way out is a good phrase to use
9:51 McCain is in for the attack again. Trying for the downhome touch again. He didn’t say Elite but he came d*mn close
9:52 Point for McCain for pointing out that Obama has never been to South America. Has Bush?
9:53 Pulling it back to Energy and the American auto industry. Not a bad way to go.
9:55 I figured that McCain was going to bring up Chavez. Restrict trade and raise taxes. he is really trying to get those sound bites in.
9:56 Health Care. Boy this is a sticky subject
9:57 Make sure you keep it simple Obama and push it onto the Insurance companies. That Fed pool won’t work for the general public. It is suplimented up the ying yang by the government. At least he admits that it will cost to start but how it might be better later
9:58 How about NOT CUTTING PE AND RECESS OUT OF THE SCHOOL DAY TO TEACH TO THE TEST
Oh for the love of mother mary, Joe the plumber again?
5,000 will NOT pay for healthcare in the New York industry. And Obama has answered these charges before (like the last two debates)
10:00 Obama reminds McCain that he has answered these questions before. Now Obama is talking to Joe. I want to see a picture of this magic plumber.
10:02 Obama is right about cherry picking clients. He gave a number! 12,000 is about right for a family policy.
10:03 McCain needs to get off the Joe jag. Obama just rebutted this just 90 seconds ago. And McCain had drank the Kool Aid about his health plan.
10:04 We have heard this all in the last debate, There is nothing new here. Why don’t we move along?
10:06 Roe vs. Wade and the Supreme Court. Good question
10:06 McCain is doing well on this one in terms of the Supreme Court not the state rights issue
10:07 Qualified judicial nominees would be nice to see some get nominated finally rather than the croneism that has been going on.
10:08 OK they agree on this one. Then I think we should move on.
10:09 Obama is taking the bull by the horns here and telling us what he believes. Might be a dangerous thing to do but refreshing to here.
10:10 Lilly Leadbetter is a good example for him to use for this question.
10:12 And McCain is on the attack again trying to make Obama the villain of the piece.
10:13 Obama is again trying to set the facts straight
10:14 Point for Obama for talking about other options and sex ed
10:15 And on the attack is McCain. He is trying to make it sound like Obama is playing word games with the American people
10:16 And we end with Education a good topic indeed
10:17 Nice tie in with other problems Obama and getting the words national security out there before McCain
10:18 Not bad and he does bring up the responcibility of the parents for their children
10:19 Choice and competition? The New York experiment with for profit public schools failed spectaculary.
10:20 Not certify teachers just because they are ex-military? What?
10:21 Nice play on “No Child left behind” which has been a disaster for most school districts. School vouchers don’t work. Point for Obama
10:23 McCain is defending NCLB? It has been the biggest problem for the schools who have gotten rid of creative programs to teach to the bloody test.
10:25 And he is bring in Autism again for what purpose?
10;26 thank you Mr. Obama for saying that vouchers don’t work.
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10:27 McCain blinking like crazy. Maybe he suffers from dry eye. Does his speech sound a bit more slurred than usual? He is just going through his talking points.
10:29 Obama is going through his talking points now.
McCain came in on the attack more this go around. Obama managed to defend.
I don’t think McCain got that big hit he was looking for. He seemed petulant at points.
Pretty even match over all. I hope Joe the Plumber was watching.
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Let me guess — he’s about to link Obama to Fannie and Freddie?
Hmm. Guess not. Good.
McCain talked to the moderator. Obama’s talking to the camera and the TV audience.
McCain talked to the moderator. Obama’s talking to the camera and the TV audience.
The fundamentals of the economy were weak even before this crisis.
nice
The fundamentals of the economy were weak even before this crisis.
nice
Odd mistake for McCain to make, Tim. He usually knows better.
Odd mistake for McCain to make, Tim. He usually knows better.
We’ve hit the plumber already???
We’ve hit the plumber already???
Ack. Just a rhetorical thing, but I hate the “… and myself” construction. It’s grammatically wrong and kinda dorky-sounding.
Ack. Just a rhetorical thing, but I hate the “… and myself” construction. It’s grammatically wrong and kinda dorky-sounding.
Ok. I’m getting cold from the breeze from McCain’s flapping eyelids – I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone blink that much.
Ok. I’m getting cold from the breeze from McCain’s flapping eyelids – I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone blink that much.
Joe the plummer, McCain’s got his new through line.
Joe the plummer, McCain’s got his new through line.
Interesting that neither of them used “Joe the plumber’s” last name. Do they not know it?
Interesting that neither of them used “Joe the plumber’s” last name. Do they not know it?
McCain was wrong about faulting Fannie Mae for the housing bubble and wrong about keeping housing prices from falling further. They were to high and will fall back to the norm.
McCain was wrong about faulting Fannie Mae for the housing bubble and wrong about keeping housing prices from falling further. They were to high and will fall back to the norm.
It’s not 95%, Obama, it’s a bit lower than that. Stop telling lies. You have a good plan that doesn’t need this stretching of the truth.
It’s not 95%, Obama, it’s a bit lower than that. Stop telling lies. You have a good plan that doesn’t need this stretching of the truth.
McCain’s already invoked “class warfare” and the specter of socialism (albeit unnamed). He seems looser tonight, but he’s not scoring a lot of points yet.
McCain’s already invoked “class warfare” and the specter of socialism (albeit unnamed). He seems looser tonight, but he’s not scoring a lot of points yet.
Fine, but I only need a plumber every five years. What about those of us who DON’T have a small business? And what good is a small business with 3 employees if 4,000 people are unemployed in my town?
If McCain doesn’t want to raise anybody’s taxes, how does he plan on funding ANY of the initiatives he’s mentioned? At least Obama admitted that some of the funding needs to come from somewhere.
If McCain doesn’t want to raise anybody’s taxes, how does he plan on funding ANY of the initiatives he’s mentioned? At least Obama admitted that some of the funding needs to come from somewhere.
McCain’s already invoked “class warfare” and the specter of socialism (albeit unnamed). He seems looser tonight, but he’s not scoring a lot of points yet.
He’s feeding the base, Tim. He’s even doing the Ireland line again that went over well with the base. He’s scoring points, but it’s only with the far right base so far.
McCain’s already invoked “class warfare” and the specter of socialism (albeit unnamed). He seems looser tonight, but he’s not scoring a lot of points yet.
He’s feeding the base, Tim. He’s even doing the Ireland line again that went over well with the base. He’s scoring points, but it’s only with the far right base so far.
One of my pet peeves is people who interrupt other people for no good reason (or because they know the other person is about to make a point, and don’t want that to happen).
I’ve got to throw in the towel on this debate now, before I have to hunt McCain down and stuff my boot into an uncomfortable place because he won’t stop doing just that!!! I’ll check into the blog later, and read synopses and analyses tomorrow, to see if any points actually managed to get raised…
One of my pet peeves is people who interrupt other people for no good reason (or because they know the other person is about to make a point, and don’t want that to happen).
I’ve got to throw in the towel on this debate now, before I have to hunt McCain down and stuff my boot into an uncomfortable place because he won’t stop doing just that!!! I’ll check into the blog later, and read synopses and analyses tomorrow, to see if any points actually managed to get raised…
Drive us into the 21st Century? Aren’t we already here?
Yes, you did have a great homeownership program in the Depression era, Senator McCain. Let’s talk about which party was behind it and which party thought it was a terrible idea, shall we?
Yes, you did have a great homeownership program in the Depression era, Senator McCain. Let’s talk about which party was behind it and which party thought it was a terrible idea, shall we?
Obama admits we have been living beyond our means (being America) Pay as you go is not a bad way to go but I don’t think it is plausible.
Still not a bad goal to aim for even if you can’t reach it.
Obama admits we have been living beyond our means (being America) Pay as you go is not a bad way to go but I don’t think it is plausible.
Still not a bad goal to aim for even if you can’t reach it.
Wow McCain is going full tilt isn’t he speaking about 50 words a minute I don’t think it sounds particularly strong, sounds like desperate.
Wow McCain is going full tilt isn’t he speaking about 50 words a minute I don’t think it sounds particularly strong, sounds like desperate.
You brought up the projector again, McCain?
Okay, that’s a resounding FÙÇK YOU. It’s not an “overhead projector” — it’s a key piece of planetarium equipment. For education of kids straight through from elementary school to HS.
(a) Stop lying about what it is.
(b) Leave planetaria alone.
The line item veto?!? Did I hear that right? Did McCain just say that? The SCOTUS will just strike it down if he gets it. What, he was taking his nap when that happened last time?
The line item veto?!? Did I hear that right? Did McCain just say that? The SCOTUS will just strike it down if he gets it. What, he was taking his nap when that happened last time?
Sugar-based Ethanol is a lousy answer – it’s environmentally destructive, expensive to produce (corn is heavily subsidized), replaces other crops and jacksup food prices, and you get fewer MPG – how is this saving anything?
Sugar-based Ethanol is a lousy answer – it’s environmentally destructive, expensive to produce (corn is heavily subsidized), replaces other crops and jacksup food prices, and you get fewer MPG – how is this saving anything?
I’m John McCain, I know stuff.
I’m John McCain, I know stuff.
The $3 million projector again? You mean the thing that has been the biggest draw at the planetarium for years and currently can’t function at capacity because it hasn’t been upgraded in decades and hasn’t actually gotten teh $3 million yet? That’s the best he can keep coming up with??
Was Obama’s statement just now the first time he had any sort of attack on McCain tonight? McCain’s up to at least half a dozen.
Was Obama’s statement just now the first time he had any sort of attack on McCain tonight? McCain’s up to at least half a dozen.
You should have run 4 years ago. ZING!
You should have run 4 years ago. ZING!