Right here.
9:00–Citizen questioners. This is going to be a train wreck. And this debate is going to be entirely about sex. Man, we’ve come a long way from the Lincoln Douglas debate.
9:01–Of course, Hillary must be prepared for this. There is no question in my mind of that. There is no way that she’s going to be caught off guard. The thing is, how is she going to handle it. She must have SOMEthing prepared. God, I hate this…but at the same time, you can’t look away, like a jackknifed tractor trailer.
9:03–This will be a new low no matter what.
9:04–HOW IN THE HÊLL CAN YOU NOT HAVE COMMITTED TO A CANDIDATE AT THIS POINT?!? JESUS CHRIST!!
9:05–They did not shake hands. I’m not surprised.
9:06–I like that she immediately asked if the questioner that was a teacher.
9:07–I can’t believe I’m saying it, but..I really like her outfit.
9:08–And he goes immediately to attack talking points rather than answer the question. He’s off and running. At least she addressed what she was asked.
9:10–Locker room talk. Jesus. I’ve been in plenty of locker rooms and I’ve never heard anyone talk like that. Quick! Deflect the question! Yup…he is. Drag in ISIS which has nothing to do with the question.
9:11–Yeah, he’s never done those things. And I’m positive that right now woman he has attacked/molested are grabbing their phones.
9:13–God, he looks like Alec Baldwin.
9:14–At least he’s not interrupting her.
9:15–It’s not just words. No one believes that for a second.
9:16–He knows he has zero support from blacks and Hispanics which is why he keeps mentioning them. And boy, the journalists are not backing off.
9:17–Here we go. She knew he was going to say this. She must be prepared.
9:18–He’s fighting to keep his voice flat and monotone. Hillary needs to send him off the rails.
9:20–So so far she’s not responding to his charges against Clinton and her. Interesting choice.
9:21–NO, CLINTON’S CAMPAIGN DID NOT START THE WHOLE BIRTHER THING.
9:22–So it’s gone from “Secretary Clinton” to “Hillary.” Well, she called him Bill, so it could be argued that she opened the door for that. Signing on with the devil? Seriously? So now she’s Satan? Boxes of emails? What the hëll are boxes of emails? And now he says if he wins he’s going to prosecute her? Jesus Christ.
9:23–She needs to slap him down. She needs to slap him down as hard as she can.
9:24–Well, the Trump supporters must have loved the “you’d be in jail” line.
9:26–He’s shifting a lot. He can’t just stand and listen.
9:27–Why are they letting him just respond endlessly? He keeps using the word “liar” just trying to get it to stick.
9:27–Drinking game challenge warning: Do NOT drink every time he sniffs because you’ll suffer from alcohol poisoning.
9:29–He keeps trying to interrupt and they keep stopping him. Oh my God, one on three.
9:29–No, he is not a gentleman. That fools no one.
9:30–She’s handling the health care question quite well so far.
9:32–Great answer. Best so far.
9:32–The biggest expense? Bigger than the military? Can anyone check that?
9:33–Whoa, whoa. Is he nuts? Everything I’ve heard is that Canada’s medical care is the best. At least that’s what Canadians have said.
9:35–Dude, stop trying to dismiss Anderson Cooper out of hand. It’s not working and it’s just going to piss him off.
9:36–Cooper keeps trying to get him to answer questions and Trump keeps dodging or interrupting or complaining.
9:37–THAT’S A SHAME?!?! HE PROMOTES IT!!
9:38–What is he SNIFFING?!?
9:38–He’s completely off the rails. Why in the hëll is everything regarding Muslims related to terrorism?
9:40–Yes. Yes. She’s nailing this one.
9:42–Oh my God. Oh my freaking God, he’s screwing himself to the floor.
9:42–They don’t interrupt her and demand she answer the question because she IS answering the question. That’s why, you jáçkášš.
9:44–Why does he keep pacing? To upstage her?
9:48–Boy, that’s a loaded question.
9:49–Seems a reasonable explanation regarding what she said.
9:50–Kathleen may have to leave the room because her blood pressure is beginning to skyrocket.
9:52–Once again he tries to change the subject so that he doesn’t have to answer it.
9:52–Whoa whoa whoa. He pays hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes? I thought he boasted about how clever he was for NOT paying his taxes.
9:53–Okay, so…it’s Hillary Clinton’s fault that tax laws weren’t changed that he took advantage of? So his taking advantage of tax laws is HER fault? Is anyone else having trouble tracking that?
9:55–What’s the sniff count up to?
9:56–That MAYBE enabled him to avoid paying taxes. Remember, we still don’t know for sure.
9:58–So he finally flat out admits that he hasn’t paid taxes for 18 years. Outstanding.
9:58–I don’t give a šhìŧ about Hillary Clinton’s friends because THEY ARE NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
10:00–And of course he interrupts again and again and again.
10:02–Anyone know if this is 90 minutes or two hours?
10:02–My God, he will NOT SHUT UP.
10:06–He thinks nukes are the answers to everything. Yes, we’re old and tired–of listening to him.
10:07–WHOA that was a big sniff.
10:08–Someone cut his microphone.
10:08–Oooo she’s hurling Pence at him.
10:09–Wait, they HAVEN’T SPOKEN? Since THE DEBATE?! Good Christ, and some people were snarking on Clinton because she didn’t speak to Kaine until the following DAY.
10:10–Yes, she assumed he couldn’t think of it; that’s why she was citing some.
10:11–Clinton is trying not to break up.
10:11–“I’m going to go to Secretary Clinton”…for some sanity.
10:12–Next debate I’m going to keep track of the number of times he interrupts her.
10:13–Definitely, arm the Kurds. Give them whey.
10:14–For the record, no, she didn’t go over. Two minutes.
10:16–He’s running over.
10:17–I feel like she’s doing a better job connecting with the questioners in the place.
10:17–Also next time I’m actually going to time every single response to see who is going over.
10:19–But they ARE deplorables. That’s the problem. They really are. I mean, I’m sorry that they feel upset because she said that what they are makes them deplorable, but it really does.
10:20–Fast correction: She said “some” of them were irredeemable.
10:21–No, that IS what he said. Sex tape.
10:21–Cooper keeps desperately trying to get him to answer a single dámņëd question.
10:27–No, he did NOT die recently, you idiot. It wasn’t recent at all. That’s the point.
10:27–Please, SOMEONE ask him how specifically Clinton has been attacking the 2nd Amendment.
10:28–And she flat out said she wasn’t against it. Not that his base will believe her, of course.
10:31–And then the Lollipop guild will come in to help.
10:31–By startling coincidence, he cites several of the swing states to praise.
10:32–So far this debate isn’t even close. Not only has she seemed far more presidential, but her answers were quite simply better, more detailed and more knowledgeable than his.
10:34–Ooooooo…
10:34–My God, what a BRILLIANT answer. That is the SINGLE best answer to a question I’ve heard tonight.
10:35–His response isn’t bad either.
10:37–Who would have thought this screw fest would end on a positive note.





So, i haven’t been following today’s camapign news – i go to CNN’s pre-debate feed, and they’re talking about Trump having brought four women who accuse Bill Clinton of improprieties, maybe even rape. (I didn’t catch the names, but i could make some guesses); and i think they said one of them was the girl whose rapist Hilary defended waybackwhen (if i heard right).
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One of the CNN panelists was saying that this is only logical and right, since Hillary dared to talk about that tape where Trump was talking about “grabbing her pussy”.
Paula Jones, Kathy Shelton, Juanita Broaddrick and Kathleen Willey.
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http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/debate-trump-appears-women-accused-bill-clinton-rape-harassment/
Which is an interesting reversal by Trump.
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Flashback: Donald Trump Called Bill Clinton’s Accusers ‘Terrible’ and ‘Unattractive’ and Former President ‘Terrific’
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/flashback-donald-trump-called-bill-clintons-accusers-terrible/story?id=42686582
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Asked by Cavuto if Clinton’s image as a “quasi-sex symbol” stood to somehow benefit from the alleged extramarital relations, Trump took issue with the characterization.
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“I don’t necessarily agree with his victims, his victims are terrible,” Trump said. “He is really a victim himself. But he put himself in that position.”
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“The whole group, Paula Jones, Lewinsky, it’s just a really unattractive group. I’m not just talking about physical,” he said.
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“Would it be any different if it were a supermodel crowd?” Cavuto then asked.
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“I think at least it would be more pleasant to watch,” Trump replied.
Pretty much who i anticipated.
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Let’s just say that i tend to find charges of rape against Bill Clinton rather less plausible than charges of rape Against Donald Trump.
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I will also point out that, as with Whitewater and with Benghazi, nobody ever managed to bring actual charges against either Clinton, much less prove anything.
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As Kate points out, Bill Clinton is (or at least was) incredible charismatic and really treats anyone he talks to as if they are the most important person in the world, which is helpful in the pursuit of the opposite sex … and she’s of the opinion that he’s too lazy to go to the effort of rape if he gets turned down … there’s always another one somewhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4lFrk4PbVg
It’s really depressing how many *women* I’ve seen today deflect this šhìŧ from Trump back to Hillary because of Bill and how many women Bill supposedly raped.
It’s as if The Donald doesn’t have his own sorrid history of possible rapes, along with his recorded comments.
Like you haven’t had enough headaches today?
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You can’t find a 4X4 to hit your own head with over and over again? You just know that will be more pleasant that the debate tonight.
Ðámņ! I didn’t get to the lumber yard today — that’s what I forgot!
I’m watching WWE tonight. At least that’s realistic what it’s about.
I was, but the video feed locked during the Bray/RKO promo and keeps stopping there even after going all the way out on the Roku and going back in. I’ll try in a few minutes again. If not, I’ll try again when the pain of the debate is too much.
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So, basically, 9:15.
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How about that “main event” though? Just glad they’re still running AJ hot.
I had my Apple TV hard-wired, so no problems after two years. My only problem with the main event was that every guy swings wildly at Cena after his shoulder tackles even though he’s been doing it for 15 years.
I don’t typically have that issue. I’m not sure if it’s the storm cleanup going on in my area or maybe heavy traffic with everyone jumping in for the title match.
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Yeah… The Cena thing is predictable, but they’ve been a little too reliant on signature moves for a long time now with more guys than just him.
If they had shaken hands i would have been happy to loan Hillary a buzzer.
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First sniffle!
DRINK!
Perhaps the moderators will call him on it.
“Locker room talk” – well, in the locker rooms at big football schools, where that kind of bahaviour is commonplace and allowed to slide.
See, the thing about locker room talk is that it generally STAYS in the locker room. Hence the term.
When it gets outside that supposed little safe space for misogynists? Well, logically, it’s no longer locker room talk.
Either way, Trump just likes to sexually assault women, whether verbally or physically. End of effing story.
“I said it, but I never did it.”
First absolute lie.
Still avoiding the question.
I’m just glad I didn’t have to drive today in the area around the university or along the corridor to the airport. (Wash. U. is an old-time hangout of mine.)
Forgot to mention that I lived within walking distance of the campus and worked part-time there.
“We know that the war against intelligence is always waged in the name of common sense.”
– Roland Barthes
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The Trump campaign in a nutshell.
PAD that’s an insult to Alec Baldwin… Poor Alec to look so much like him.
Trump isn’t interrupting.
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Did his campaign fit him up with a remote-controlled cattle prod and convince him they’d use it if he made himself look more like an áššhølë than ever?
* sniff *
9:11–Yeah, he’s never done those things. And I’m positive that right now woman he has attacked/molested are grabbing their phones.
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Not to mention pageant contestants who have said he kissed them without invitation or the woman he settled such a claim over with by paying out a nice wad of ca$h.
Playing the victim because the moderator calls him on violating the rules.
Ah, time to start the mudslinging.
Trump bring sup the lie that Hillary laughed at the girl who was raped.
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He’s got nothing but lies and bravado.
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He’s a train wreck waiting to happen. He should never be allowed near elected federal office.
Re:9:18- Just use the words “White Trash.” He fired an Apprentice for using the term as self-depreciation.
“I know you are but what am I?”
Really maTURE, Donald.
He’s going to appoint a special prosecutor to have yet another investigation on matters looked into in depth already.
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He’s playing to the dumbest group of Americans possible. I guess he knows it’s all he’s got left.
Oh, yeah. More millions wasted in investigations and special prosecutors who won’t find anything.
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I note that the audience didn’t make any noise when Trump was flat-out accusing Hillary of lying; Hillary IMPLIES that Trump is a liar and she gets booed.
Wow. Six thousand more e-mails in the last ten seconds.
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Trump begins to interrupt.
Trump is cracking…
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lol
Trump blames the moderators for his inability to follow the rules.
The GOP has been trying to bring down the Clintons for nearly 25 years, and yet Hillary is now a month away from winning the presidency anyway.
If you ever wanted a definition of insanity, there you have it.
Canadians come to the US for special procedures because they are done here and not there – and the Canadian plan pays for it.
He’s ignoring all the balances to Obamacare that the GOP stripped/blocked/filibustered out of the bill.
I also like how everyone forgets that Obamacare was developed by the man the GOP prayed would enter this election: Mitt Romney.
Canada’s system IS excellent – but there are things that are not easily available there, because there isn’t enough call; people come here for those.
We’re gonna have health care plans, and they’re gonna be the BEST plans and the bigliets plans…
Oops – “bigliest”.
Re:9:35- I hope Anderson drops his handkerchief and the lions come out.
Of course Trump keeps dodging. If he actually answers, he reveals that he’s nothing but a turnip ghost.
Trump’s response on his healthcare plan sounded like a 1st grader trying to repeat what they heard on a detailed news editorial a week earlier.
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That was beyond incoherent and meaningless.
SF writer Cory Doctorow is counting the sniffs. At this writing he is up to 61.
Yes, let’s all forget that the van in the Times Square attempted bombing was reported to the police by a man who is a Muslim.
Because if he doesn’t make the connection, he can’t make Muslims wear red crescents and live in ghettos so he can use the hate he incites for political purposes.
Between his complaints, and his sniffle, I really want her to ask if he needs a tissue.
The biggest expense? Bigger than the military? Can anyone check that?
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US military spending is 54% of the US budget. Everything else combined is the remaining 46%.
“She went twenty-five seconds over her time…”
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MODERATOR: “She did not.”
He just pulled the “ICE endorsed me” lie again.
* sniff * missed opportunity – I wish Hillary had nailed him on the repeal and replace answer on Obamacare; I’ve been waiting for 6+ years for Republicans to offer their alternative and all I’ve heard is crickets.
Uhh…Hillary? There was a link to the hack attacks and the Kremlin…but it wasn’t proven Putin was involved. I know he was…But there’s no proof.
“I don’t know anything about Russia”
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…or anything else.
The Audit lie again.
And now he implies that a single senator can repeal laws? Ones which the GOP has fought to create?
He’ll try to eliminate carried interest … which really doesn’t affect him much, as i seem to recall.
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OTOH, the one that let him out of 18 years of taxes .. that he doesn’t mention.
No, moron, she didn’t change the tax system when she was a Senator because George W Bush was the President and not Hillary Clinton.
He’s gonna cut taxes … and eliminate regulations.
According to Cory Doctorow – 71
Please keep reporting in on that, Juan.
I’ll post on the next 80, 90, 100 so on.
Excellent, thanks.
Gotta be more than that; i know i’ve heard more than two since he said 69.
“He lives in an alternate reality” – she didn’t SAY he was flat-out lying.
Is that Alternate reality Donald’s in the one full of shrimp?
Earth 6-7/8ths.
Nice!
The debate between Jimmy Smits and Alan Alda covered the issues more thoroughly and was conducted with a higher level of both intelligence and courtesy.