Back in July, the David family had breakfast during Shore Leave convention with George Takei and Brad Altman, and naturally we discussed the upcoming wedding. They were talking about how they’d had to whittle the invite list from several thousand to two hundred. And I had to ask the question that I”m sure you would have asked: “Are you inviting Shatner?”
“Yes,” said Brad, nodding firmly, and George agreed, adding, “I think it’s time to let the past go.” They could not have been more definitive: the olive branch was being extended, bygones allowed to be bygones, hatchets being buried and every other cliche you’d care to roll out.
The result? The invite, which was sent to Shatner’s manager, was never forwarded to Shatner for whatever reason, and now a video Shatner released in which he excoriates George is getting all kinds of media play.
“George came out. Who cares?” asks Shatner in the video. The answer to that, of course, is the opponents of gay marriage who are circulating e-mails and fliers filled with baseless scare tactics in order to try and push through Proposition 8. A Proposition that would make sure joyous days such as the one Kath and I shared with George, Brad and a couple hundred guests–which could have included William Shatner–will never occur again for anyone who’s gay in California. Those bigots, those jerks, those killjoys…they’re the ones who care, Mr. Shatner.
So that answers your questions: The questions of why George Takei didn’t invite you (he did) and who cares that George is gay (those who want to push through Prop 8). So here’s my question to you:
What are you going to do about it?
PAD
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Speaking of shat slinging, I just saw a commercial about Obama and Reverend Wright a few minutes ago.
I’m only surprised that it took them this long. Although, this one was a RNC commercial, not McCain.
Still.
Somebody else, if it was the same ad I saw, said the sponsor was the National Republican Trust PAC, not the RNC.
Gotta love those outside groups. But as I said, I’m only surprised that it took them this long.
Somebody else, if it was the same ad I saw, said the sponsor was the National Republican Trust PAC, not the RNC.
Gotta love those outside groups. But as I said, I’m only surprised that it took them this long.
The funny thing is that while the GOP tries to link Obama to Ayers and Wright, the Dems try to link McCain to Bush and Cheney.
I can’t stop thinking “Wow, Bush is even less popular than a 60s terrorists and a black supremacist!”
The funny thing is that while the GOP tries to link Obama to Ayers and Wright, the Dems try to link McCain to Bush and Cheney.
I can’t stop thinking “Wow, Bush is even less popular than a 60s terrorists and a black supremacist!”
Strangely enough (or typically, if you prefer), I provoked this explosion of Mikeish bile, and that was a mistake – avoidable and unnecessary.
Back to the issues at hand before this eruption, what is troubling in the liberal/conservative, pro-choice/pro-life argument is the pro-life refusal to recognize the argument the pro-life are making. Pro-Choice’s argument is, essentially, that abortion is permissible, as it is purely a matter of women’s preferences. It argues that Pro-Life is nothing but a mean-spirited attempt to control and demean women. This has very little to do with Pro-Life’s true argument – that intentional homicide is immoral and criminal. Telling such a person that it is nothing but a matter of personal choice is ludicrous. If I decide to kill a person, telling you to shut up about it because I’m not asking you to do it yourself is unlikely to make you sit on your hands. That’s the whole of the argument between the sides. Pro-Choice is doing very little to disprove the tenet of Pro-Life’s argument.
Strangely enough (or typically, if you prefer), I provoked this explosion of Mikeish bile, and that was a mistake – avoidable and unnecessary.
Back to the issues at hand before this eruption, what is troubling in the liberal/conservative, pro-choice/pro-life argument is the pro-life refusal to recognize the argument the pro-life are making. Pro-Choice’s argument is, essentially, that abortion is permissible, as it is purely a matter of women’s preferences. It argues that Pro-Life is nothing but a mean-spirited attempt to control and demean women. This has very little to do with Pro-Life’s true argument – that intentional homicide is immoral and criminal. Telling such a person that it is nothing but a matter of personal choice is ludicrous. If I decide to kill a person, telling you to shut up about it because I’m not asking you to do it yourself is unlikely to make you sit on your hands. That’s the whole of the argument between the sides. Pro-Choice is doing very little to disprove the tenet of Pro-Life’s argument.
Mike,
People walk away from fights with you because they’ve already won and pounding on you more just makes them feel like they’ve kicked a poor helpless little baby rat (I couldn’t say kitten, kittens are at least cute).
I know Jerry, but Mike brings it on himself. You gotta wonder why he keeps coming back here if everyone here are all bullies and chicken-šhìŧš…
Mike,
People walk away from fights with you because they’ve already won and pounding on you more just makes them feel like they’ve kicked a poor helpless little baby rat (I couldn’t say kitten, kittens are at least cute).
I know Jerry, but Mike brings it on himself. You gotta wonder why he keeps coming back here if everyone here are all bullies and chicken-šhìŧš…
Thank you for acknowledging your culpability, Jeffrey.
Providing your motive for your chicken-šhìŧ cowardice only makes my account of what’s going on here more plausible. Thank you for validating everything I’ve said about you.
Providing your motive for your chicken-šhìŧ cowardice only makes my account of what’s going on here more plausible. Thank you for validating everything I’ve said about you.
“You gotta wonder why he keeps coming back here if everyone here are all bullies and chicken-šhìŧš…”
Messiah complex, narcissism, preferring to be a smelly fish in a small pond than a small fish in a big pond… the usual.
“You gotta wonder why he keeps coming back here if everyone here are all bullies and chicken-šhìŧš…”
Messiah complex, narcissism, preferring to be a smelly fish in a small pond than a small fish in a big pond… the usual.
Would it be extreme to want painful things to happen to the people who create spam?
Would it be extreme to want painful things to happen to the people who create spam?
Only if you also want to raise taxes Craig.
Only if you also want to raise taxes Craig.
But you can only have homicide if you kill a person. I think many Pro-Choicers don’t recognize fetuses (particularly in the first stages of pregnancy) as persons.
There is also the point I raised earlier. Fetuses are unique entities, in that they don’t have a capacity for separate existence yet. In a way, it’s a matter of personal choice when there is little demarcation between mother and fetus.
Anyway, I think abortion is a complicated matter, I can’t side with either side comfortably. Personally, I consider abortion immoral, but I don’t think I’d pass a law to make it forbidden.
“Would it be extreme to want painful things to happen to the people who create spam?”
No, but does anyone else find the name somehow… right… given that this is the final week of the election?
“Would it be extreme to want painful things to happen to the people who create spam?”
No, but does anyone else find the name somehow… right… given that this is the final week of the election?
When is calling cyber-bullying what it is exclusive of narcissism?
When is calling cyber-bullying what it is exclusive of narcissism?
School is (in America at least) required and mandatory. PAD’s website is not mandatory.
Can;t be bullied when you keep coming back of your own volition. You love the attention, too bad your parents obviously didn’t love you enough to give you positive attention so that you crave any attention, positive or negative. I would pray for you, but I’m an atheist…
School is (in America at least) required and mandatory. PAD’s website is not mandatory.
Can;t be bullied when you keep coming back of your own volition. You love the attention, too bad your parents obviously didn’t love you enough to give you positive attention so that you crave any attention, positive or negative. I would pray for you, but I’m an atheist…
Bully
synonyms see intimidate
You’re trying to disqualify your behavior as bullying by saying it doesn’t take place in school or any other location your victim is required to be. There is no such requirement in the definition.
Your disliking my presence here doesn’t disqualify your behavior as bullying. You can go away.
Bully
synonyms see intimidate
You’re trying to disqualify your behavior as bullying by saying it doesn’t take place in school or any other location your victim is required to be. There is no such requirement in the definition.
Your disliking my presence here doesn’t disqualify your behavior as bullying. You can go away.
You first…
Hey Mikey, he likes it!
You first…
Hey Mikey, he likes it!
The only Bully is Mike himself
The only Bully is Mike himself
I’m not insisting anyone leave, as you are. I’m citing how leaving allows you to solve your own problem.
My presence isn’t hypocritical. Yours is.
Thank you, Micha, for refusing to answer my question, and for keeping my grievances with chicken-šhìŧ cowards like you relevant to this thread by running from a fight with me you’ve started.
Who is running? Idiot
Who is running? Idiot
You can’t answer my question, áššhølë.
Crikey, you lot are still at it.
Crikey, you lot are still at it.
I don’t know how these cyber-bullies keeping my grievances with their chicken-šhìŧ cowardice relevant to this thread isn’t to my advantage. That being the case, I merely have to keep my resolve to respond to attacks directed at me, and ride their resolve to keep giving me what I want. I don’t know what they hope to accomplish from continuing to get called on their behavior.
Hey, if you’re stupid enough to whine about getting bullied on a blog where the owner of the blog has shrouded you and no one has ever expressed a liking for you, then one can only assume you are a masochist. As far as thinking anyone is running from you, you are truly deluded.
You would have to be scary and/or a threat for anyone to run from you. All you are is a sad little child. But you know what?
I’m tired of you. And if ignoring you is what it takes to get you to slit your own wrists and depart the world, then that’s a price I’m willing to pay.
I’m not running from you, you are no threat at all, so I’ll just ignore you like the insignificant insect you are.
Hey, if you’re stupid enough to whine about getting bullied on a blog where the owner of the blog has shrouded you and no one has ever expressed a liking for you, then one can only assume you are a masochist. As far as thinking anyone is running from you, you are truly deluded.
You would have to be scary and/or a threat for anyone to run from you. All you are is a sad little child. But you know what?
I’m tired of you. And if ignoring you is what it takes to get you to slit your own wrists and depart the world, then that’s a price I’m willing to pay.
I’m not running from you, you are no threat at all, so I’ll just ignore you like the insignificant insect you are.
If you can derive some kind of pretense of toughness from running from a fight with me you started, I don’t know how that isn’t supposed to make this place more interesting to me.
If you can derive some kind of pretense of toughness from running from a fight with me you started, I don’t know how that isn’t supposed to make this place more interesting to me.
This is a very starnge board you have here. What’s wrong with this fellow?
Ignore the trolling and hope it goes away.
I’ve chosen to not allow a certain standard of bullying to impose on my freedom.
If you are so privileged that you think there’s something wrong with that, then you are a hostage to that privilege. When you practice and strengthen your reason to shelter you, then you can give yourself as much freedom as that reason provides. Then you are not a hostage.
Instead, “Bladestar” and Micha and Alan and Jerry and Bill portray me as damaged for not having a resolve to be stared down by things like Sendak’s wild things. And they do it by running from fights with me they start. Why should I resolve to accommodate their hostility to authenticity?
I’ve chosen to not allow a certain standard of bullying to impose on my freedom.
If you are so privileged that you think there’s something wrong with that, then you are a hostage to that privilege. When you practice and strengthen your reason to shelter you, then you can give yourself as much freedom as that reason provides. Then you are not a hostage.
Instead, “Bladestar” and Micha and Alan and Jerry and Bill portray me as damaged for not having a resolve to be stared down by things like Sendak’s wild things. And they do it by running from fights with me they start. Why should I resolve to accommodate their hostility to authenticity?
Welcome aboard Kit, once you learn to ignore the insects, you’ll find PAD’s site enjoyable.
You’ll get both ends of the political spectrum, as PAD attracts folks from all walks of life. It’s not as one-sided as some make it sound.
Welcome aboard Kit, once you learn to ignore the insects, you’ll find PAD’s site enjoyable.
You’ll get both ends of the political spectrum, as PAD attracts folks from all walks of life. It’s not as one-sided as some make it sound.
I’m pretty sure calling other posters insects sets the bar for discourse lower than calling them nazis. For one thing, nazis still get trials. And nazis feel free to stop at comparing people to rodents.
That’s how severe your intolerance is for authenticity.