Just to keep things focused.
I find it interesting that whereas Obama picked a running mate who complemented the shortcomings in his slate–someone with a good deal of experience in foreign relations, for instance–McCain chose someone who will appeal to disenfranchised voting bases from both sides: to women who will see an opportunity to put a female a heartbeat from the presidency (and with a president of McCain’s years, that takes on a serious reality) after Hillary’s campaign ended in flames, and to the conservative base who will embrace a bottom half of the ticket who is apparently somewhere to the right of John Wayne.
The easy answer, of course, is that women won’t support her because she’s anti-abortion. Except there happen to be plenty of women who are likewise anti-abortion–yes, even Democrats–and therefore won’t find that a turnoff.
Frankly, I think Palin was a nervy choice that could reap serious benefits. And the timing of the announcement knocked all the post-convention attention away from Obama and onto McCain, which will now build as they roll into the GOP convention.
Personally, I find the notion of an anti-abortion, pro-drilling, pro-creationism, anti-animal protection vice president to be nothing short of terrifying. Then again, anyone that the extreme right embraces is by definition terrifying.
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I do not envy Biden in the debates. He will be walking a fine line. He’s got to counter Palin’s attacks and get his own jabs in without coming across as being too tough on a woman. It is going to be quite a challenge.
It depends which Biden shows up. He can be a real dìçk–amazing how people as opposite as Ted Sorensen and Clarence Thomas reported the same experience with him and not a good one. Or there’s the guy who had the class to saythis just the other day about someone he is in a major political fight with: “He is my good friend, We go back 33 years. If John McCain picked up – I get in trouble for saying this with some real strong Obama supporters, but you gotta – it is what it is. If John McCain picked up the phone today and said, ‘Joe, I need you to get in a plane and fly out to Missoula, I can’t tell you why’, I’d get in a plane and I’d go.”
If that’s teh Joe Biden who shows up for the debate he should be more than able to hold his own.
Biden’s only 7 years younger than McCain. He has the option of playing something like a “reconciling father” role to navigate the debate and tap into the sympathy of the home audience.
I think all he needs to say is that the country needs to be led by someone who has his best years to give ahead of him, and saying that John McCain’s best years to give to the country are behind him is no insult to him.
I couldn’t help but laugh when I saw PAD’s book club reference, since one of the two biggest things I can’t get by on her is the book banning thing.
Timothy, that’s one of the problems I have with some of the media coverage in general and her being in the race specifically. Emphasis should NOT be placed on her gender, but on her character and abilities. (Nobody go down the “ability to have a child” thing, PLEASE! I don’t wanna start THAT up.) For one thing, in the debates, Palin’s probably not going to hold anything back on the fact that Biden’s an older man, so he shouldn’t have to hold anything back because she’s a younger(than him) woman. She’s in politics, she’s I think fairly familiar with the process. Unfortunately, though, there are some media types that will over-analyze this to death. “Was Biden too tough? Too soft? Just right?” They’re not running to be elected by Goldilocks. Women have proven over and over that they can handle being in politics. I wish the double standard had gone the way of disco, pet rocks and fanny packs, but some people just really wanna keep it around.
Jason–unfortunately, for all the best intentions in the world, politics is rarely objective.
Here’s a thing that bugs me about how the Republicans are handling things.
When Palin was introduced last Friday, many reporters asked various people (McCain campaign people, Rudy Giuliani, conservative pundits) why this woman was qualified to be VP. Some talked about her experience.
Most talked about how so many people in the country could relate to her. They talked about her powerful personal story and her family.
That annoyed me at the time because those are the qualifications for a movie-of-the-week, not a political position. They weren’t even trying to say she was a good candidate, their first response was that people would vote for her because of her personal story.
None of this justifies the rumor mongering on the internet. None of it should have led to questions like, “Can she be VP with a Down’s Syndrome baby?” as if a woman should stay at home with the kids. There were some reporters going too far and asking her unfair questions about her personal life.
But were the Republicans surprised? Their initial sales pitch was largely her personal story, not her experience. Of course the questions went in the wrong direction, the reporters were *led* in the wrong direction.
And now those bad questions are being used to deflect *all* questions. I’ve seen several McCain people on TV talking about how unfair her treatment has been, even though the question they were asked was about foreign policy or something else completely reasonable. It’s being used as a dodge for all questions. I even saw one McCain campaign official making the claim that Palin didn’t have to talk to the press *at all*. She only needed to talk to the American people, not Time Magazine.
That’s disingenuous.
Jason, you can’t fault people for trying to win and doing by taking advantage of missteps by their opponents. Personally, as much as I dislike Bill Clinton, I don’t think he was being racist when he went after Obama during the primary–but that’s how the Obama campaign spun it, to good effect I might add.
Given the clumsy over the top attacks that greeted Palin the Republicans would have to be brain dead not to use it to their advantage. You can shake your head at it but I’d reserve the anger for those who were so foolish as to start a fight they couldn’t finish and give Palin a degree of sympathy she might have had a hard time earning on her own.
Now I would expect Palin and crew to do whatever it takes to trigger more crazy attacks. It’s so far been a winning formula–I’ve heard from some women here who weren’t at all enthused by either ticket but are now livid over the attacks on Palin’s family. I’ve had to correct them on the fact that it was not Obama or Biden that started the attacks. Not everyone gets the subtleties of how the netroots work, they see it as the Obama campaign starting rumors about a Downs Syndrome child and getting mad when others dared complain about their rotten personalities.
In the end though, Palin and Biden won’t win or lose the election. Picking Quayle didn’t sink Bush, picking Bentson didn’t save Dukakis.
That’s disingenuous.
A lot of things about this campaign are disingenuous.
Claiming Obama is some sort of elitist, when McCain has spent 25 years in DC. Trying to target Obama’s oratory skills, when we’ve had to put up with 8 years of Bush being struggling to string together 2 coherent sentences. That Obama has the least experienced candidate ever, when McCain has also never held an executive position. That Obama is some sort of extremist liberal, when Palin just might the furthest right for a candidate I can recall.
The claim of Palin being a “hockey mom”, completely ignoring the fact that hockey is more akin to lacrosse, an “elitist” sport, for the average American than it is soccer. As I read somebody pointing out elsewhere, think about how much it costs to let a kid play hockey vs soccer. It isn’t cheap.
The claim of Palin being against corruption, or earmarks, or “the old guard”, or standard Washington political tactics, when any number of reports show the exact the opposite. Saying her family is off-limits, but the campaign can apparently use them as they wish (Obama is just as guilty of this).
The state of Colorado is being considered a key battleground state. But the makeup here is like 34% Republican, 31% Democrat, and 33% Independent, with the last two elections having the Democrats picking up seats after office after seat, outside of the state going to Bush by a close margin.
But with the pick of Sarah Palin, I’m of the opinion that John McCain has basically told the independents here that he doesn’t care about them, that the most important thing is to simply shore up the Republican base that was going to vote Republican anyways. And I think it’ll cost him the election.
Well, that’s not quite what I mean, Bill. The fact that they’re taking advantage of opponents missteps isn’t quite what I’m faulting. I’m faulting them for 2 things:
1) Feeding us a load of crap on the first day. Reporters asked why she was a good pick for VP. Many (not all, but many) of the McCain surrogates talked about her family and her lifestyle. Somehow the fact that she had skinned a moose was presented to us as more important than any actual policy decision she’s ever made.
2) They’re using the controversies to deflect legitimate attacks. If they’re talking to a reporter who asked the insulting questions, they have a right to be upset. If a reporter asks them about foreign policy experience as the answer is, “Let’s talk about how sexist the questions have been,” that’s a load of B.S. It’s just as bad as McCain answering “I was a P.O.W.” to questions about the economy.
I doubt the McCain campaign masterminded exactly how this would go, but I think they did egg it on a bit, knowing that they could score points later. It’s a dirty tactic, mainly because it’s used to lump everyone into the same bucket as the few who made the mistake. It’s not my main problem, though. My main problem is those two points.
Bill, you’re right that Palin isn’t the biggest issue in this election. But her pick *is* an issue, so it deserves real answers, not “straight talk” that is anything but. The selection of Eagleton for VP hurt McGovern, so it is possible for a bad VP pick to matter. The selection of Palin should be taken as a serious reflection of what kind of decisions John McCain will make.
I haven’t read through this entire thing yet (over 450 entries), so if this point has been brought up before, I apologize.
Being somewhat cynical here, I wonder if this isn’t a back door way for the Republicans to say “See, we were the first party to make a woman the President of the United States.” Just think, Mccain somehow wins the presidency. Maybe a year or two in, he resigns due to “health issues.” Suddenly the Republicans go “Look what we did. We made a woman President.”
I think some people are missing the point. Up until last night, the base was lukewarm to McCain. He might be well-respected by moderates and the media, but the conservative has good reason to loathe him. You need to look at how the conservative base of the Republican party sees it.
McCain has no problems with gravitas or experience, and no one undecided cares about those qualities on the bottom of the ticket if the top has it already. Furthermore, he has no problem with appealing to moderates as he spent the last eight years doing nothing but appealing to moderates. He needs the conservative vote, and risks them sitting out the election, or lodging a ridiculous protest vote for Bob Barr.
Sarah Palin gives him that vote. The mere announcement of her as Veep sparked $10 million in donations over the weekend that followed. Most of that was from everyday people, not the rich corporate people so often conjured as being in cahoots with the Republicans.
SP has been the focus of some unconscionable personal attacks (the weekend insinuations that Trig was her daughter’s baby) as well as some justified questions concerning her records. Last night that woman stood up, and showed no sign of it affecting her. She was not angry, nor was she a victim. She didn’t back-pedal or soften her views. Instead, she delivered a series of body blows to her opponents with a beauty queen smile. She was the proverbial iron fist in a velvet glove. Dismiss her as a mousketeer if you must, but that’s playing into her game. The smile and quasi-beehive hairdo hide the fact this woman has pair of solid brass and spine of steel.
Gravitas and experience be dámņëd – she’ll get those with time. What we saw last night was the most important convention address since Reagan’s “A Time for Choosing” speech in 1964. Her speech didn’t have the deep content of that famed address, but it did give birth to a national political star.
That it was what your average Republican conservative saw last night. Their base is now energized, and all good Democrats should be worried.
Also, the whole attacking “community organizers” thing was goofy.
Ted Kennedy may have more opinion influence than any 100 community organizers. But for any given person, Kennedy’s influence is negligible, dwarfed by the influence of someone that person person talks to everyday. Who’s more networked into any given community than a “community organizer?”
A very arrogant and elitist comment.
Not that it will matter with the base, but I wonder how that plays among indepenents…
Personally, I thought it was pretty goofy that the Obama campaign sent out an e-mail last evening after Palin’s speech defending the importance of community organizers.
Well, goofy defense for a goofy attack….
Pointing out Obama’s lack of qualifications is definitely a strategy that McCain is pursuing. We’ll see in November if it’s truly goofy or not. It definitely played well with the Republican base. And, it ruffled Obama’s feathers if his campaign sent out an e-mail immediately.
Malcolm, you’re right that everyone needs to take Palin seriously. She is very much a serious politician, nothing can be taken for granted.
However, I don’t think she’s going to be a major problem if Obama does take her seriously, which so far he seems to be doing. She may be firing up the base, but the Democratic base is already fired up. Since the Democrats have been getting massive voter registration and the Republicans haven’t, there are currently lots more Democrats than there are Republicans.
Add that to the fact that Obama is doing well with the Independents right now and firing up the base isn’t enough to get McCain a victory. He needs more than that and I don’t think Sarah Palin can get it for him. She’s as right wing as they come, so I don’t think she’ll attract many moderates.
How is it goofy for a candidate to be nice to those most-networked in their communities?
A point given to Palin last night to drive home and, in so doing, validate her to the base. His war experience was given to Fred Thompson to drive home. If McCain’s speech retreads in-depth on topics already addressed so well, he’s only going to fatigue them. That means his best bet is to center his speech tonight on the war on terror.
Her speech didn’t have the deep content of that famed address, but it did give birth to a national political star.
Funny thing about stars: They can burn out, and sometimes very quickly.
All she proved last night was that she could do an acceptable job of delivering a speech written for her by others, in front of a heavily partisan audience. Whoopee.
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I keep seeing references to Palin giving a speech written by others. Fair enough I suppose, politicians tend to get credit for mouthing the words others wrote for them…but is it a fact that Obama’s speeches are entirely his own? Not being snarky, just asking, I always assumed that, like Kennedy and Reagan before him, he has writers. In which case I have to wonder why nobody bothered to shrug off the excellence of his speech last week as just another guy reading a teleprompter.
I think the point was that it was written FOR another person. Slightly interesting if true, but it’s like a “duh” thing. If she’s on the team, OF COURSE she’s gonna say something similar. (Though it doesn’t explain the gaffes like the bridge defense and the community organizer line).
I think that’s a fair point, Bill. Politicians have had speechwriters for a long time, that’s not a problem.
I do rankle a little at the fact that she had a George Bush speechwriter. For a guy who says he’s about change, McCain sure likes Bush’s stuff.
I hit ‘Post’ too soon on that last message. There is one thing about her reading someone else’s speech that is valid.
I think that when people point out that she’s reading someone else’s speech, what they’re *trying* to say is that this is the *only* thing she’s done.
Obama has writers, but he’s also written some of his own speeches, including his acceptance speech last week. He’s taken questions at town halls, given interviews, and been in debates.
Palin hasn’t done any of that yet. The McCain campaign is already claiming that she doesn’t have to do some of it. They’re actually saying that she doesn’t have to give any interviews at all. They’re trying to set things up so that nobody can question her credentials, nobody can interview her, and the only thing to judge her by is this speech and the VP debates.
So I don’t think just saying that someone else wrote her speech is enough, but the idea behind it is valid. That’s all she’s shown us so far, and that’s all she wants to show us.
I have the opposite reaction from Timothy and Malcolm. Before Palin came into the scene, I was pretty satisfied, both Osama and McCain looked good, and no matter who won, we’d not have four more years of a Fire-Eyed Christian Holy Warrior in the White House.
And now, dámņ it. Here we go again.
I ask all you Americans, do you think the VP has a lot of influence? Is it possible that a President McCain would not give much power to Palin? I pray to all the gods (including the Christian one) that McCain will call the shots and be his moderate self once he is in power.
I think Bill it has more to do with the fact the speech wasn’t written for her. It’s why it was so front loaded with bio information and the second half was just attacks.
Now I haven’t seen the other Dem speeches, but did they condescend as much as Rudy and Palin did?
I think Bill it has more to do with the fact the speech wasn’t written for her. It’s why it was so front loaded with bio information and the second half was just attacks.
Now I haven’t seen the other Dem speeches, but did they condescend as much as Rudy and Palin did?
I think Bill it has more to do with the fact the speech wasn’t written for her. It’s why it was so front loaded with bio information and the second half was just attacks.
Now I haven’t seen the other Dem speeches, but did they condescend as much as Rudy and Palin did?
I think Bill it has more to do with the fact the speech wasn’t written for her. It’s why it was so front loaded with bio information and the second half was just attacks.
Now I haven’t seen the other Dem speeches, but did they condescend as much as Rudy and Palin did?
Palin made excellent arguments (to the conservative base) about a mayor being like a community organizer with actual responsibilities, but thought the stupid lipstick line was funny. She received heavy coaching, and recently.
Obama’s upset over Hillary demonstrated he was on top of his campaign. Mark Penn dreamed up the 3am call ad, and Bill gave it its approval. Hillary was ready on day 120. I’d like to see the writer who represents the agendas that are pulling Obama from all sides as he’s done.
Here’s an interesting item I just found on MSNBC.com
From NBC’s Mark Murray
The Obama campaign confirms to First Read that it has raised $8 million from more than 130,000 donors since Sarah Palin’s speech last night — and that it’s on pace to raise a total of $10 million by the time McCain speaks.
“Sarah Palin’s attacks have rallied our supporters in ways we never expected,” said Obama spokesman Bill Burton. “And we fully expect John McCain’s attacks tonight to help us make our grassroots organization even stronger.”
Apparently she’s inspiring *both* sides.
Posted by Jason M. Bryant:
Add that to the fact that Obama is doing well with the Independents right now and firing up the base isn’t enough to get McCain a victory. He needs more than that and I don’t think Sarah Palin can get it for him. She’s as right wing as they come, so I don’t think she’ll attract many moderates.
Ah! But thats exactly what McCain needs is someone to fire up the more right wing side of the party, McCain himself has the moderate vote with his reaching across the aisle moves of the last few years.
As far as speeches go every president has a speech writer and the parts of the media that find this as some major revelation just shows how desperate they are. Sure she read a speech written for her well but if she had read the same speech horribly we wouldnt be hearing how someone else wrote it. You would hear all about how bad she gave it.
Its very transparent who the “objective” media want in the white house
Posted by Jason M. Bryant:
So I don’t think just saying that someone else wrote her speech is enough, but the idea behind it is valid. That’s all she’s shown us so far, and that’s all she wants to show us.
Isnt that what we have debates for? Do you really see her as someone who will tell the media she’s not talking? I think she will chew the media up and spit them out. Granted, that doesnt mean shes a good VP but dámņ its going to be great.
Only time will tell how well she does or how much of an impact she will ultimately have. But I just think its way to soon to claim she not helping McCain
Biden didnt get anywhere near this much attention when he was announced as Obama running mate. I think the good old boys are a bit jealous.
Firing up the base is *one* thing that McCain needs. Since there are less Republicans than Democrats, he can’t win if that’s all he’s got. He needs the Independents of the disgruntled Hillary supporters, and Palin isn’t going to help with either.
As for the debates, it’s ‘debate.’ Singular. There’s only one VP debate, so that’s one night out of the entire campaign. Since the VP position has gotten more and more important in the last 20 years, that’s not enough. If she isn’t willing to do interviews, that’s cowardly.
If she’s capable of chewing up the media and spitting them out, then she should get into the interviews and do it. But I’m not looking for a battle between her and the media. There’s no need to pretend that the media and politicians are enemies. I just want her to answer questions about her positions.
Its very transparent who the “objective” media want in the white house
*insert eye roll*
McCain built his career by using the media to his advantage, and now he’s basically giving the media the finger because they dare vet his VP choice in a way he didn’t.
McCain himself has the moderate vote with his reaching across the aisle moves of the last few years.
By attaching himself to a far-right wing VP? By aligning himself with Bush to get the nomination in the first place?
No, he’s going to lose that moderate vote because he’s no longer the maverick he’s built himself up to be.
Posted by Craig J. Ries:
McCain built his career by using the media to his advantage, and now he’s basically giving the media the finger because they dare vet his VP choice in a way he didn’t.
You mean they vet her like nobody in history has been vetted. That said, she handled it perfectly the big bad transparent media tried their best and she didnt even flinch.
Like I said earlier. the Obama ticket should watch how the experience card is played as Palin showed, she can turn it right around and show the world that she could very well have more experience than the guy running for President on the opposing ticket.
Yes, the Democrats base, was already fired up, but that misses the point. The Republican base was not.
What happens the rank-and-file of both bases are fired up? Hard to say. I’ve only seen it happen once in my lifetime – 2004.
Sure, her speeches were written by someone else. That’s a key difference between her and Reagan, who wrote all his speeches until he became President. However, she displayed something that no speechwriter can imbue into a speech: talent. She connected with the camera as well as Obama, which is no small feat.
You’re right, Peter, she may burn out, but it’s going to take something spectacular considering what’s already been thrown at her. Something like being caught owning a dog named “Checkers.” However, Obama should have sewn this election up as soon as it was apparent he was the nominee. He hasn’t, and now Sarah the Barracuda threatens him on the cult of personality front.
Another thing – the major attacks leveled at her have been on the personal side. There are some serious questions about her time as governor, and I’m not talking about Trooper-gate II. Her resume may be seriously overstated from her short two years in Alaska’s executive office, but all the Democrats are concentrating on is her family. The champions of the common man are trying to dismiss her as trailer trash. That strategy is already backfiring.
Malcolm, the Democrats have not concentrated on her family, that’s completely wrong. Obama specifically said that her family was off limits and that’s been backed up by his people.
Let’s not forget, the mother/grandmother rumor was *never* mentioned on TV or in print until the McCain campaign brought it up. They’re the ones that put it in the mainstream media. They could have had Palin sit down with a reporter and do a nice, insightful story revealing how her daughter was going through something tough. Instead they put it out there as something they didn’t want to talk about, but they had to defend themselves.
Do not buy into the idea that the Democrats have focused on her family. Never happened.
A note on the bases being fired up.
Yes, there are more registered Democrats than Republicans, but a greater percentage of the electorate describes itself as being conservative rather than liberal.
It is the conservative or Reagan Democrat that decided every national election since 1980. Actually, I’d even go back farther and say they decided 1976 as well.
“Once more: Obama’s kids are seven and ten. Not four months old.”
Mrs Palin’s baby has a father, doesn’t it? What? Only mothers can be primary caregivers?
“However, she displayed something that no speechwriter can imbue into a speech: talent”
That’s possibly a holdover from her days as a sportscaster. I, myself, have been told that I can deliver lines with some effect both on stage and on air. Does that make ME qualified to be VP? Dear God, I hope not. NO ONE wants me as VP. My mother never even did, although she did want me to be the first Irish American Pope.
ANYWAY–the ability to touch an audience or fire them up or whatever is pretty much the LEAST of the things I think a politician should have. Unfortunately, TV campaigns need photogenic, likeable candidates who look comfortable.
However, it’s useful. And it is one thing that no one disputes Obama has.
Well, if the 9/11 “tribute” that they just aired is what the rest of the night will be like I may end up with a laptop stuck into the screen of my HDTV set.
Their message…
Be afraid! Vote McCain!
And I’ve just read that when Palin was a mayor she made three inquiries to a librarian about how to ban books that had “objectionable” content, and got pìššëd when the librarian wouldn’t go along with censorship.
I ask the Republicans here, do you really want this lady as VP?
Posted by Jason M. Bryant:
Malcolm, the Democrats have not concentrated on her family, that’s completely wrong. Obama specifically said that her family was off limits and that’s been backed up by his people.
Jason, I see that as nothing more than a ploy, a tool. The transparent media attacks, Obama comes to the rescue trying to look like he’s this great peacemaker that he’s far above such politics.
Now that she has taken a clear shot at Obama himself I dont think we will see the great peacemaker anymore.
Pat, your suggestion that Obama is being an opportunist is absurd. He said the exact same stuff he’s said about families all along. If this was happening in reverse, the Republicans would be pouncing on this stuff. Don’t believe me?
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=Sarah-Palin-Gender-Card
You don’t have to listen to a word Jon Stewart said. Just look at what Karl Rove said about one side, then the opposite things about the other side. Then look at how Bill O’Reily changed his tune when it was too his advantage to say, “Leave the kids alone.”
Don’t bash Obama for taking a moral stand. That’s not an intelligent argument.
You mean they vet her like nobody in history has been vetted.
You have a short memory then.
The transparent media attacks,
Just because you keep repeating it doesn’t make it any truer than it was yesterday.
Btw, I’m willing to start taking bets on when the GOP and their supporters will stop using the media as a scapegoat.
Although, you might have to wait a long time for their “war on the media” to officially end.
Karl Rove’s take on Palin, as well as Rove’s take on Tim Kaine, current governor of Virginia, who was apparently on Obama’s short list for VP:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card
Please tell me some of you, as even casual observers of politics, are embarrassed by this.
Posted by Jason M. Bryant:
Don’t bash Obama for taking a moral stand. That’s not an intelligent argument.
Oh, Jason intelligence has nothing to do with my opinion of Obama it just that, my opinion. I just dont believe his “moral stand” act. You believe he’s a man of morals. I wouldnt think of questioning your argument as intelligent.
Posted by Craig J. Ries:
You mean they vet her like nobody in history has been vetted.
You have a short memory then.
You mean someone finally asked Biden to supply a dna test to prove he’s the father of his children.
Awesome, I stand corrected. 😉
The transparent media attacks,
Just because you keep repeating it doesn’t make it any truer than it was yesterday.
Posted by Rene
And I’ve just read that when Palin was a mayor she made three inquiries to a librarian about how to ban books that had “objectionable” content, and got pìššëd when the librarian wouldn’t go along with censorship.
I ask the Republicans here, do you really want this lady as VP?
Yeah Rene quit repeating the transparent medias’ bias.
Pat: I just dont believe his “moral stand” act.
You don’t have to believe he’s a moral man. He did the moral thing. If you’re attacking him for that, you’re the one acting immorally.
Yeah Rene quit repeating the transparent medias’ bias.
I’m sorry, were you complaining when the media was reporting the Revereng Wright stuff?
I certainly don’t recall any posts, but you’re welcome to enlighten me as to why the media shouldn’t be doing their job.
You can cut the bs at any time, Pat. McCain’s campaign is trying to use *internet rumors* about Palin to cut of ANY discussion of Palin, and that’s a total crock. If she’s not as she’s being advertised, then the public has a right to know.
We have a right to know if she’s tried to fire people simply out of revenge, or has put her city into millions of dollars in debt where no debt existed, or that she expects us all to pray to god for oil pipe lines.
If you don’t think we have a right to know those things, then I’d hate to see what kind of government you expect us to live under.
Posted by Craig J. Ries:
Yeah Rene quit repeating the transparent medias’ bias.
I’m sorry, were you complaining when the media was reporting the Revereng Wright stuff?
No I wasn’t because that was true. We were even supplied with video, Dont tell me you missed it. I was complaining because the Trasparent media failed to hold him accountable and let him pass with “that’s not the Jeremiah Wright that I knew” bit. Talk about bs….
You can cut the bs at any time, Pat. McCain’s campaign is trying to use *internet rumors* about Palin to cut of ANY discussion of Palin, and that’s a total crock. If she’s not as she’s being advertised, then the public has a right to know.
Just how did the McCain campaign advertise her?
A gun toting Hockey mom.
By the way, did Biden supply the dna?
“Just how did the McCain campaign advertise her?”
Well, they made a big deal about her not being big on earmarks and turning down federal money for the bridge to nowhere. Since she was all for federal money to handle local issues as mayor and she was for the bridge when it counted and only “turned it down” after it had already been made a public joke shot down seems to be a good sign of false advertising.
But I guess the media looking at things like that is just sooooo unfair, biased and sexist.