They’ve just released studies that say skim milk and low-fat milk increases the likelihood of prostate cancer?!? So I’m supposed to drink whole milk, which is fattening?
It just isn’t fair.
PAd
They’ve just released studies that say skim milk and low-fat milk increases the likelihood of prostate cancer?!? So I’m supposed to drink whole milk, which is fattening?
It just isn’t fair.
PAd
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Skip the cow’s milk. Why not go for something closer nutritionally to mother’s milk?
Pig’s milk or chimpanzee’s milk. Doesn’t that make more sense?
I mean, bovine mammary fluids are designed to make a calf into a huge cow in less than a year. How can that possibly be bad for you?
As to Taubes book, “Good Calories, Bad Calories,” it’s nice to know that peer-reviewed research by Drs. Esselstyn and Ornish, in which they REVERSED heart disease through low-fat vegan diets, doesn’t impact his beliefs at all. Why should science matter when you’re selling a book?
Jeesh….
While I’m not saying that Taube’s work is beyond criticism – I’ve not even read it – I will note that logically showing that a low-fat vegan diet reverses heart disease does not mean that a higher-fat diet causes heart disease. For one thing, a cure is different from a preventative; a splint can help heal a broken bone, but it doesn’t mean that wearing splints will help prevent your bone from breaking in the first place. And the difference between a standard diet and a “low-fat vegan diet” is not just the fat.
Have you actually read Taube’s book and know that he ignores that study? Not that one study tends to make for a broader scientific truth…
Oh, and quickly pulling up descriptions of the key Esselstyn study (I now see that Esselstyn and Ornish are separate studies), it doesn’t exactly look like real good science. 11 patients, with no control group in the study itself, no double-blindedness? Doesn’t sound rigorous.
And the concern of what “bovine mammary fluids” are designed to do? Leaving out the religious question of “design”, we’re left with the question of what you advocate. Corn is just as much “designed” to created a new field of corn; is that what we want in our bodies?
Life is the leading cause of death…
Check out my interview with Dr. Esselstyn at: http://www.madcowboy.com
Rather than go back’n’forth here, which is probably inappropriate, perhaps reading what he had to say as I tried to poke holes in his work will help.
BTW: cow’s milk is for cows, not for humans. If you wouldn’t drink rat’s milk, or dog milk, why would you drink cow’s milk?
Just a thought…
By that logic, the only source of nutrition that’s “for humans” is human milk, and I don’t think it advisable that we go through life consuming nothing but that.
Nat Gertler: By that logic, the only source of nutrition that’s “for humans” is human milk, and I don’t think it advisable that we go through life consuming nothing but that.
I dont think my 70 year old mother would like that logic either. Yuck!!!!
“dog milk”
“Nothing wrong with dog’s milk. Full of goodness, full of vitamins, full of marrowbone jelly.”
🙂
If you want to have a safe milk, go with Raw Milk. Studies have found Raw Milk to be very similar to our blood vessels. In short it feeds us. There are parasites in cow’s milk, but you can kill them with Propolis and Honey. Seriously, it really works. And you’d never have to worry about lactose intolerance.
Consequently, it’s the processes done to milk more than anything else that makes milk unhealthy.
“Consequently, it’s the processes done to milk more than anything else that makes milk unhealthy.”
And chocolaty!
Most animal products are super yucky for you. Drink soy milk, rice milk, or hemp milk.
Or chocolate milk!
“If you wouldn’t drink rat’s milk, or dog milk, why would you drink cow’s milk?”
LOL! Maybe because dog’s milk and rat’s milk would be too difficult, inefficient and (therefore expensive) to harvest?
I think the mongols proved that humans will eat just about anything that they can get their hands on if it makes them more competative.
Actually, drinking ANY milk is probably what causes cancer.
Here are two well respected sources in the scientific community that both provide scientific evidence that milk may not be good for us (adults) to drink. At all.
The China Study
The Harvard Medical School Guide to Healthy Eating (The entire first chapter is on that page)
Basically, any health benefits that milk gives us can be duplicated by eating green leafy vegetables. Read the lit yourself and make your own decisions.
I’ll keep drinking milk. And keep eating eggs. And cheese, and cottage cheese.
And I’ll at least die happy. 😉