The Cowboy Pete By-Popular Demand Round Up of Battlestar: Galactica

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Y’know…I almost wish the show weren’t called “Battlestar: Galactica.” It’s just that much more difficult to convince people that this is one of the best dramas, bar none, currently on the air.

In the interest of full disclosure, I will reiterate that I’ve written a BSG novel. I don’t believe it shades my opinions; in fact, if I didn’t like the series, I wouldn’t have written the novel, so that tells you something. Spoilers follow:

The season ender of the previous year blew Adama away; this one blew me away. And I even knew major aspects of the story in advance since I was sent episode descriptions to aid me in writing the book.

BSG doesn’t have a ton of humor in it, but this one contained the single funniest moment in the run of the series: Dean Stockwell being hauled to the brig, loudly protesting, “I am NOT a frakking Cylon” until he’s suddenly face-to-face with his exact duplicate, at which point he acknowledges the jig is up with a sighed, “Oh…well, okay, then.”

In an episode filled with so many great moments, it’s hard to pick just one…hëll, no. I lie. It’s easy. It’s the revelation that Roslin, in the interest of trying to save humanity, is behind an attempt to rig the election. That’s party of the genius of the series. The obvious way to go is to have Adama, the military man, be the hawk, while Roslin, the woman and teacher, would be more–what’s the word–nurturing. Instead she’s more of a hawk than Adama, and it’s Adama who has to rein in her more aggressive impulses. “If we do this…we’re criminals,” he tells her upon learning of her duplicity, and claims the cancer will have moved from her breast to her heart. Tragically, one cannot help but think that there’s a lot of politicians out there who have engaged in such power grabs for a lot less altruistic motives, and probably don’t feel the least bit bad about it. Then again, it IS science fiction.

The one year jump was a brilliant move (if we could jump three years in “New Frontier,” why not BSG?) although, honest, guys, Adama’s mustache? Unfortunate.

And geez…October. Gonna be a long summer.

PAD

145 comments on “The Cowboy Pete By-Popular Demand Round Up of Battlestar: Galactica”

  1. I loved that Starbuck hugged Tigh and his wife like old friends. Heh, heh. Maybe if you write another novel Peter you can explain how that happened. It’s not that I *need* to know. Starbuck and Tigh are pretty similar, and it’s not like there’s a huge obstacle to them getting along like, say, Starbuck getting Tigh’s brother killed. I just think it would be fun to see you write how that happened (and to write Mr. and Mrs. Tigh in general).

  2. BSG is, bar none, my favorite show on TV right now. This show kicks ášš. Can’t wait for the rest of the DVDs before October’s premiere.

    Bobby

  3. The Finale was OUTSTANDING!!!!!Way to shake things up.Adama convincing Roslin of the right thing to do was why I LOVE this show.The hard decisions that have to be made and Morality behind it.Much like the abortion issue a few episodes ago.
    So does Baltar go down as one of the biggest accidental mass Murderers in history?Geez dude the series opener,the nuke this episode and how many people die with the new season?
    Some questions for next season.
    What happened with Starbuck and Lee?
    Tigh hugs Starbuck???
    Where is Helo’s number 8(Boomer)?
    Where is Tom(Richard Hatch)?
    Who is the guy looking for Kara?
    What are the Cylon’s up too?
    Are there more versions now that have time to themselves?
    Also general question
    There are 12 models of Cylon
    I count Lucy Lawless,Six,Boomer,Dean stockwell,Black male Doctor,and two other white male versions did I miss any and do the metal versions count???

  4. Given what’s coincidentally going on at DC right now, I got some bonus laughter from seeing the phrase “One year later” pop up on screen.

    My favorite moment was when the nuke went off. I loved that because it was Baltar’s fault, *again*. So after betraying the human race and almost completely wiping them out, he hands a nuke over to a Cylon and is responsible for another 10,000 deaths. Then later we find out that the Cylons wouldn’t have found New Caprica if it hadn’t been for that nuclear blast. So even *that* can be traced back to Baltar.

    This version of Baltar is just so superior to the original series version. A guy that teams up with an alien enemy so that his entire species can be wiped out? That’s hard to believe or understand. I guy who’s so determined to get a hot chick into bed that he hands over security codes? Much more believable. I can actually comprehend why he would do these things, and that makes them much scarier.

  5. Battlestar Galactica is the best show currently on television. As PAD notes, it sounds odd to say that. But it is an absolutely stunning series that explores a fascinating premise as well as intriguing themes, including sex, war, politics, the military, religion, and more.

    The acting is superb. Honestly, as stunning as Tricia Helfer looks in any given scene, she is an amazing actress. James Callis as Gaius Baltar is always engaging. I loved the scene between Roslin and Baltar in last night’s episode. I loved the agony in Mary McDonnell’s performance as she realizes that she cannot bring herself to accept the rigged election. “But it’s the wrong choice.” Amazing.

    And that stunning one year leap? It’s an immensely risky move, but I love the way the story is headed, as now the “peaceful” Cylons appear to occupy New Caprica. At the same time, I have a little trepidation about the leap, because the last time a show I really loved did something like this, it was the ALIAS 2-year leap at the end of Season 2, and that sent the show in a direction that dámņ near killed the series (and certainly dampened some of my enthusiasm for the show). I really hope Ronald D. Moore and David Eick can pull this off.

    October is going to seem like an eternity away. 🙂

  6. 1I wish I could get into BSG, but I can’t. Well, that’s not right: Yes it is very well written and the plots are very timely, but the characters I like are Cylons. I mean Starbuck is good for a human. But the rest seem personify humanity at it’s worst.
    I think Peter hit the nail on the head when he said there isn’t much humor on this show: I mean just 58,000 people survived and not one commedian?
    I also hate what they do to Boomer and I hope she takes revenge soon.

  7. I agree – BSG is at least one of the best dramas on television. In this it stands in stark contrast to Babylon 5, which I think was only good relative to other SF shows. Even relative to such a melodramatic mainstream drama as “ER”, B5 wasn’t so much a drama as a melodrama. BSG is good in spite of being SF…

  8. Interesting… all the positive comments here and at Keith RA DeCandido’s LJ, it’s completely the opposite – he and all his commenters hated it.
    I haven’t seen it yet (just spoiled myself. No big). So I can’t comment on the finale, but this season has not been as great as the first season.

  9. Well, crap. I keep forgetting that we here in Canada are several episodes behind. So I read the post, thinking “I just watched the latest episode tonight. Spoilers, indeed. Bring it on.” Ðámņ.

  10. PAD, do you ever listen to the podcasts from Ron Moore? The worm under Adama’s nose has something to do with the actors history.

    In fact if anyone here hasn’t listened to the podcast, it’s fascinating to hear their reasons and thoughts on this episode. And it did rock.

    What happened with Starbuck and Lee?
    they pretty much showed that when Starbuck got back to the Galactica and was drinking with her sport studd. Lee was the third part of the triangle and Kara made her choice and it wasn’t Lee.

    Tigh hugs Starbuck???
    According to pod cast over the year they made up. The idea was on purpose to show how these people had progressed over the year.

    Where is Helo’s number 8(Boomer)?
    To be answered next season which sucks. Still in the brig?

    Where is Tom(Richard Hatch)?
    Will be back next season.

    Who is the guy looking for Kara?
    Lea Baun (sp?) the cylon that Kara tortured and was flushed out an airlock by Laura in season one. Is also the cylon that Adama killed in the mini series.

    What are the Cylon’s up too?
    Well yah, that’s the 100 dollar question.

    Are there more versions now that have time to themselves?
    What do you mean?

    There are 12 models of Cylon
    You are correct, Lea Baun(sp?) and the other is named Doral

    Who would ever have thought that the cheese fest, rip off of Star Wars in the late 70’s could ever be turned into the best show on television! Now we have to wait a long 7 months, ugh!

  11. I’m just glad they appear to have fixed two big problems I had with the Cylons; their wanting to be human and being religious fanatics.

  12. PAD, do you ever listen to the podcasts from Ron Moore? The worm under Adama’s nose has something to do with the actors history.
    And what would that be?

  14. I’ve been hearing good things about this show, especially in that it’s not trying to be a science-fiction show, per se.

    As a guy who’s favorite three shows right now are THE SHIELD, VERONICA MARS and ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT, would anyone be so kind as to draw on these shows for comparative purposes for BATTLESTAR GALACTICA?

  15. There’s only one plus to the end of Galactica’s second season, and that’s to make room for the American debut of the new Doctor Who series. Friday nights on Sci-Fi are about to get even more interesting….

  16. From James Blight:

    As a guy who’s favorite three shows right now are THE SHIELD, VERONICA MARS and ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT, would anyone be so kind as to draw on these shows for comparative purposes for BATTLESTAR GALACTICA?

    The only other show I watch (aside from BOONDOCKS, on occasion) is VERONICA MARS, so I’ll take it from there. MARS is amazingly well-plotted; both this season and last feel like one 22-hour movie broken into sections, more than an actual serialized series. GALACTICA isn’t as tightly plotted, from what I’ve seen (mostly season 2).
    The strengths of GALACTICA and MARS are similar, in that both series are very noir-esqe in outlook and feel (at times, MARS moreso, of course). MARS is funnier, and the scope is obviously lessened, both because of setting and plot arcs, but both give it a more grounded feeling that GALACTICA lacks; there’s no Veronica/Keith relationship that acts as a backbone on GALACTICA.
    But that’s also a strength of GALACTICA; when Moore et. al. kick it, they really tear through everyone’s pre-conceptions of what a series can be, what people can and will do under times of stress. There’s NO promises on GALACTICA, and a real sense of fear pervades the series; I recall watching my first few episodes with my brother (the start of season two, FYI), and constantly growing at him “they’re SCREWED, these people can barely get themselves together, much less protect humanity!”
    Anyone could die. If they had the Cylons wipe humanity off the face of the universe, it would be totally believable. This is all of Humanity as the crew of FIREFLY, on the ragged edge of the ‘verse, and there’s no place or time for much of a sense of humor. VERONICA, of course, is on the ragged edge of a teen life, as well (and I understand Vic from THE SHIELD is under similar constraints and issues). Much of the plots and the drama from GALACTICA comes from that same dark place that MARS draws it’s strengths from, and they are very complimentary shows.

    For those not watching VERONICA MARS: This is amazing drama, and a shocker in the same way GALACTICA is for the new viewer. I’m not much for hawking shows, and every series is flawed, but…wow. Netflix the Season One DVDs, and see if you don’t believe me!

    —-Woodrow

  17. Well, while I feel that BSG is one of the best dramas on the air since the Aaron Sorkin era West Wing, I cannot help but feel a sense of trepidation about the forthcoming October season opener. Try as I might, I just can’t help but to be afraid that since the ‘One Year Later’ thing kicked off after Baltar put his head down and went to sleep, this whole thing might just turn out to be an “Oh, I just had the craziest dream” scenario. I know, I know, thus far Ron Moore has shaken the yoke of his Star Trek past (no offense PAD) and been above that sort of cheesiness. But still, the fear persists. Anyone else here old enough to remember Pam Ewing waking up to find formerly dead husband Bobby alive and well in the shower?

    PAD, you’ve seen future plots, you’re in the know. Would it be possible for you to dispel my fears and ease my mind without a breach of contract?

    In any case, at least we know that time travel is not an option. Is it? (Again, no offense intended PAD. STNF: Double Time was gold.)

  18. Third_side, I was thinking the same thing as soon as the story jumped one year. However, we didn’t just see things from Baltar’s POV, but from everyone else. So unless everyone’s having the same dream, I believe it’s for real.

    ..And I’m old enough to remember that the death of Bobby in Dallas was felt by every character in the show too, even in the spin-off, Knott’s landing. I feel this case is different.

  19. In this it stands in stark contrast to Babylon 5, which I think was only good relative to other SF shows.

    Apples and oranges. The comparison is not fair to either show.

    Since I don’t have cable, I have only seen a few episodes of BG. But I fully agree it is very good. I look forward to getting a DVD set and watching them all of the way through.

    I saw every episode of B5 as it came out. And for me BG doesn’t live up to the epic scope. But that is because I see B5 playing a different role and out for a different purpose. I sincely doubt BG will touch me like B5 on some of the core issues. But in the few episodes I have seen of BG, I think the acting and the writing has been quite good, better than many B5 episodes. (But keep in mind that B5 managed a lot on a shoestring budget without being on a network for the first 4 years.)

    Bottom line, I think both are great shows, and it is not necessary to say B5 was not that good to make Battlestar Galactica (2nd Edition) look better. If you want to compare apples to apples, you should talk about BG versus Star Trek since Ronald Moore was involved with both series. BG makes me wonder how good Star Trek could have been if it had been allowed to be revised like they have with BG.

    Iowa Jim

  20. It’s great to hear that you’re a fan of the series PD. Now I’m really looking forward to your novel.

  21. >As a guy who’s favorite three shows right now are THE SHIELD, VERONICA MARS and ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT, would anyone be so kind as to draw on these shows for comparative purposes for BATTLESTAR GALACTICA?

    I think if a person liked THE SHIELD, there’s a good chance they’d like BATTLESTAR GALACTICA, unless they have a newjerk reaction against all science fiction. Like THE SHIELD, BATTLESTAR GALACTICA is a drama where the characters and situations are far from black and white. The primary dilemma of the show is- with the entire human race under attack by religeous extremists (the Cylons), how far will they go to ensure their own survival? Will they “do whatever it takes?” Sacrifice democracy? Human rights? Honor? Integrity? Do they even DESERVE to survive if they give up all these things? It’s a very post 9/11 show with no easy answers; they’re flawed people facing a very real threat to their very existence. And like THE SHIELD, BATTLESTAR GALACTICA has a lot of compelling characters, fabulous actors and strong writing.

    It’s worth renting the DVDs. A word of warning: the four hour pilot/miniseries that kicks off Galactica drags a bit. That’s certainly not something that could ever be said about the series itself though.

  22. I am also one of those who was blown away by the BSG season finale. I will admit though I have to wonder if this wasn’t a “jump the shark” moment as the direction the series will take now with what happened will be in marked contrast to what has come before.

    There are a couple of things I’m curious to see the thoughts of other fans on:

    1. Speaking of Moore’s Star Trek past, does anyone else find there to be a remarkable similarity between the Baltar character and the Bashir character on DS9? I could almost see Alexander Siddig in the role, the actors even look slightly the same! I wonder if Moore had originally thought of casting Siddig in the Baltar role.

    2. Although I missed two episodes this season (Captain’s Hand and the first part of the season ender), I was somewhat surprised they killed off the Pres’ aid “Billy.” Anyone willing to take bets on whether or not he winds up coming back as one of the missing Cyclon models?

  23. I think Billy’s death had a lot to do with the actor deciding to move on. Apparently he was getting a lot of offers that conflicted with his BSG stuff. The behind the scenes reason for him not joining Roslyn when she split the fleet was that the actor was shooting a pilot.

  24. “Interesting… all the positive comments here and at Keith RA DeCandido’s LJ, it’s completely the opposite – he and all his commenters hated it.”

    Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion, even when it’s clearly wrong, as is the case there.

    PAD

  26. What’s the joke? I think by any reasonable critical measure, BSG is a brilliant series, and if people think otherwise, well, they’re entitled to, but I think they’re wrong.

    PAD

  27. I think that the one year later bit was a great way of accounting for the fact that the characters have now aged by about the same amount that the actors have. I wonder if the reason that Walt disappeared at the beginning of Lost is that the kid was visibly maturing too quickly for two months that the characters have been on the island.

  28. The freaky part, for me? The parts we didn’t see (one year jump) encompass a longer period of time than the parts we did see (first and second season). How much did we bloody well miss?

  29. We missed watching the entire dreary process of these people setting up their Hooverville, trying to scratch a living out of the unforgiving soil of this barely-habitable world, and slowly losing all faith in their elected president – you know, the sort of thing you could pick up by combining the news from Iraq and the US…

    Frankly, I’m just as happy they skipped over that part. It might have been interesting for a week or two, but it would have gotten boring fast, and we would have lost the immediacy of the thematic link between Laura’s actions, and Baltar’s selling out humanity for a piece of ášš for the third time. Even when these people try to do the right thing, they can wind up doing wrong…

  30. Plus, apparently, several folks leaving the military, Tyrell and Callie hooking up, etc.

  31. “Tyrell and Callie hooking up”

    That was probably the least surprising one-year-later change for me. I was actually expecting them to get together from the moment she forgave him when her jaw was wired shut. I was dissapointed that she didn’t go over and give him a hug while he was apologizing. So their getting together wasn’t surprising, but it was very satisfying.

    Really though, when they were first showing the settlement, I just keep thinking “who’s pregnant, who’s pregnant?” Given the settlers’ situation, repopulating the species seemed like a top priority, so I wouldn’t have been surprised if every female cast member had been pregnant.

    The biggest surprise to me was how inhospitable the planet looked. Maybe that was just the dead of winter, but my first impression was that this was a pretty miserable place to live. That brought me back to my earlier favorite thing, the fact that everything is Baltar’s fault. 🙂

  32. “We missed watching the entire dreary process of these people setting up their Hooverville, trying to scratch a living out of the unforgiving soil of this barely-habitable world, and slowly losing all faith in their elected president – you know, the sort of thing you could pick up by combining the news from Iraq and the US…”

    We also missed an entire year of fans bìŧçhìņg “Why are they wasting a whole season on this stupid plaaaanet?! When are they going to wind up getting back out into space, looking for earth, which we KNOW they’re gonna do sooner or later anyway?”

    PAD

  33. “”Interesting… all the positive comments here and at Keith RA DeCandido’s LJ, it’s completely the opposite – he and all his commenters hated it.”

    Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion, even when it’s clearly wrong, as is the case there.

    PAD”

    Agreed that everyone is entitled to their opinion. I enjoy reading both your LJs and find the differing POVs interesting.

  34. “We also missed an entire year of fans bìŧçhìņg “Why are they wasting a whole season on this stupid plaaaanet?! When are they going to wind up getting back out into space, looking for earth, which we KNOW they’re gonna do sooner or later anyway?” “

    I agree with you 100% PAD. I’m glad they jumped right into the new dynamic. My previous comments aside, I look forward to seeing a few episodes of humans living under Cylon rule. With both Adamas in space pimping out their Battlestars in preparation for a little payback, who’ll rally the troops on New Caprica? Will it be obvious choices like Starbuck and Chief Tyrol or a dark horse like Col. Tigh? And who’ll turn into a Cylon collaborator? Obvious choice there is Ellen Tigh but my money is on LT. Gaeta. Never really trusted that guy. And then, after a few episodes of dramatic tension and build-up we’ll be treated to a nicely prepared and well-deserved REVOLUTION!

    Or I could be completely wrong. The Cylons could simply be there to tell the humans about God, drop off a couple of copies of the Watchtower and be on their merry way. And the Adama boys, wrongly assuming that the rest of humanity was boned anyway, could have just taken the remaining fleet to look for that casino planet from the second episode of the old series.

  35. The moustache unfortunate? Edward James Olmos’ moustache is one of the most iconic hair elements in entertainment history! Right up there with Connery’s beard and Shatner’s toupee. I almost wept when I saw he didn’t have it in the original mini, and I almost wept with joy when I saw THE MOUSTACHE was back. Man, that thing deserves its own screen credit.

    Now all we need is for him to bring back the same hair from “The West Wing.” “They arrested me because I look like my name is Roberto Mendoza, and I have come to rob your home.”

    Perhaps an exaggeration. But still, Olmos minus the moustache is simply Not Right.

  36. I must confess, until the last few minutes of the show, I thought the entire last hour might have been some sortof dream sequence for Baltar, because I couldn’t imagine this “one year later” theme.

    Nice touch.

  37. “What’s the joke? I think by any reasonable critical measure, BSG is a brilliant series, and if people think otherwise, well, they’re entitled to, but I think they’re wrong.”

    They’re not wrong, you just don’t agree with them. There’s no such thing as an objectively great TV show, so their opinions can’t possibly be wrong.

    I’ve never seen it, so I can’t comment on the show (although recently I tried watching the original series for the first time since I was a kid, and I was bored out of my mind… somehow I remembered it being better than it was).

  38. Mister PJ

    When I first saw Baltar, I said to myself, “Hey, Siddig is on this show!”

  39. It is classic sci-fi cliffhanger. The way out of this corner just seems impossible from the surface. I also like the twist. The survivors are conquered, not with a bang, but a wimper. All because they forgot even recent history. Its a slight shock to do it that way but very effective. Dean Stockwell…good to see him back on TV.

  40. PAD said >>BSG doesn’t have a ton of humor in it…

    Agreed, plus the first part (the previous episode) had a very funny (and laden with dramatic irony) line where Dean Stockwell (hmm should he be labeled the funny Cylon model?) tells Tyrol that he’s not a Cylon… “I haven’t seen you at any of the meetings” When I saw that line, the “Hmm…?” button was pressed, but then again, with 6 models (now 5) left unaccounted for, BSG viewers have to wonder about every new character being a Cylon skinjob…

    but my single favorite moment of the finale? Seeing pretty boy Apollo having become fat LOL (what can I say? It’s a schadenfreudish joy)

    eddie

  41. “Interesting… all the positive comments here and at Keith RA DeCandido’s LJ, it’s completely the opposite – he and all his commenters hated it.”

    Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion, even when it’s clearly wrong, as is the case there.

    PAD

    Not the “Son Of Peter David”! Then again, I guess you gotta expect kids to rebel against their parents.

    Stockwell had the funniest lines. In addition to “I’m not a fracking cylon … oh, well.” there was “Take me to your leader.” and in fact, his opening “pep talk” to Tyrol in part 1 was hoot also.

    The moustache: In scifi, facial hair = evil! That’s why bearded Tyrol attacked Cally.

    As far as comparisons to other shows, it’s kinda like BABYLON 5 meets THE SHIELD. There’s an epic arc going on with the Cylon’s “Plan” for humanity and their own growth as a sentient race reminscent of BABYLON 5 while it also focuses in tightly on the flaws and strengths and flaws of the characters following essentially a holocaust, but worst, the end of their world, their worlds, and how they struggle to survive. D

    The closest RL analog would likely be some of the “Third World” countries, East Berlin during the Cold War years, Europe during WW2, here in the America, The South during Civil War or the Native Americans during 19th century Westward Expansion, or the Aztecs in the face of the Spanish Conquistordores, or down throughout history as one nation conquered another–as the “End of the World” as they then knew it, came to fruition.

    Under THAT much pressure, the worst in people comes easily to the forefront. The CHALLENGE is to beat back the angels of our lesser nature. It’s not enough to survive, you have to have to purpose, a reason. You have to hope.

    The search for that hope, that reason, that purpose–for BOTH humans and Cylons–is the point of BATTLESTAR GALACTICA.

    — Ken from Chicago

  42. I hated the 1978 show, and this one tries too hard to be “The West Wing of Outer Space.”

    GIVE ME RERUNS OF STAR TREK ANY TIME.

  43. I kept thinking “Relax, It’s all Baltar’s dream. It’s just a dream. PLEASE let it be a dream.” But by the end I was hoping it wasn’t, because, dámņ, what a great twist.

    And I agree the mustache has got to go.

  45. So, PAD, are you going to be reviewing Doctor Who starting Friday night? 🙂

    Ok, it’s a year behind for those of us with no patience, but I need to watch this series again before the next one starts in a couple of months in the UK.

  46. Given the novel you just finished for BS: G; did you know what happened in this season finale before it aired?

  47. “They’re not wrong, you just don’t agree with them. There’s no such thing as an objectively great TV show, so their opinions can’t possibly be wrong.”

    Of course there is such a thing as an objectively great TV show. Off the top of my head: Playhouse 90. MASH. Hill Street Blues. The Twilight Zone. I, Claudius. By any critical measure, by any standard of excellence, these and many more are objectively great.

    People are always saying that there’s no such thing as right and wrong opinions. Nonsense. Putting aside the obvious counters of the Flat Earth Society or the guys who firmly believe the moon landings were faked, I think there are some shows that are great, and the audience is divided into those who recognize that greatness, and those who don’t. We can try to convince these people otherwise. We can explain to them the greatness that they’re missing. We can point out why their critiques are off-base. We can even accept the notion that the show has specific aspects that make it less than appealing to them. Doesn’t mean the show is not objectively great.

    If some schmuck looks at the “Mona Lisa” and announces it to be a piece of crap and not remotely art, that doesn’t mean it’s not great. Just means the guy’s an idiot. An opinion can’t be wrong? John Simon once described a film “painful in three separate ways: an unfunny comedy, poor moviemaking and embarrassing self-revelation. It is a film so shapeless, sprawling, repetitious and aimless as to seem to beg for oblivion.” The film was “Annie Hall.” He was wrong. Wrong in his assessment, and wrong in his belief in the film’s eventual fate. A critic in 1931 described a new film thusly: “I regret to report that it is just another movie, so thoroughly mixed with water as to hae a horror content of about .0001 percent.” That was “Frankenstein.” Wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

    There has to be such a thing as objective greatness; otherwise anything can be dismissed out of hand by anyone, and greatness doesn’t mean anything.

    PAD

  49. ” Baltar’s selling out humanity for a piece of ášš for the third time”

    No no, clearly this time it was for two pieces of ášš. That makes it all worth while!!!

  50. I think that, since they’ve never said for sure, the centurions are definitely a model and it is my opinion that the raiders and basestars could be as well, given their cybernetic structures. Probably won’t be the case as it is fun to throw out the human models as shockers. I think Dean Stockwell deserves an Emmy for his role in the two part finale. I was curious about him in the first part, but not to the point where I wasn’t floored (because I was) when he showed up on Caprica.

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