Total “Fallen Angel” hypothetical

Understand, I’m not saying “Fallen Angel” is continuing. I’m not saying that. And if it were, which I’m not saying it is, I’m not saying that there would be a different artist, because it’s a moot question since I’m not saying it’s continuing in the first place.

But if it were continuing, which I’m not saying it is, and I were in the market for a new artist, which I’m not saying I am, who would you want to see drawing it?

PAD

254 comments on “Total “Fallen Angel” hypothetical

  1. Alex Maleev and Jae Lee would be great fits. Sienkewicz (I used to know how to spell his name) would really be nice. Perez, of course.

  2. I don’t read it for the pictures, I read it for the articles. I mean the story. Whatever.

    So, how ’bout John Byrne? No, just kidding, just kidding, don’t kill me!

    In all seriousness, I think Phil Noto could be good. I’d be curious to see Robin Riggs, I’ve never seen his pencilling style, as far as I know. Ed Benes… can be very good for some things. His ability to do facial expressions is underrated. Not sure he’s a good match for the mood of this particular character/setting.

    Others… Jiminez? Definite maybe. But make sure it’s someone who can get the subtleties of Lee’s expressions, as Lopez does. To me, that’s more important than almost any other aspect of the art. But I’ll buy it regardless.

    That is, I would buy it regardless, if it were to be continued.

  3. wow. so many great artists have already been mentioned…but the one that really got me all sorts of excited as i was reading the responses was Tim Sale. I think his style would absolutely complement the tone of the story and of Bete Noir.

    however, i’ve got a soft spot in my heart for Jim Calafiore…mostly just to see a reunion of he and PAD (i liked Marty Egeland too on Aquaman btw…even though Egeland and Calafiore had such distinct styles, both worked well…I just don’t think Egeland’s almost anime-ish style would work well with FA). Peter’s run on Aquaman, along with his run on Hulk, are far and away my two favorite runs. I wouldn’t mind seeing Gary Frank return to the Hulk title…but I don’t think he’s quite right for FA either (of course, he may not be quite right for this ‘incarnation’ of the Hulk either…still waiting to see where Peter takes it after Tempus Fugit).

    so for whatever it’s worth…there’s my $0.02 (which i hope would be worth at least $0.02) 🙂

  4. My humble additions to the ever-growing list, in no particular order:

    Jim Balent – Drew Catwoman for over seventy issues then formed Broadsword Comics for his Tarot: Witch of the Black Rose series and other projects. He knows how to draw beautiful women AND ghouls, which would be a plus on the series.

    Tom Mandrake – If you want moody and borderline nightmare-inducing comics, I can’t think of anyone better.

    Sal Velluto – He came to mind as one of the artists that doesn’t get the credit he deserves.

    Mike Zeck – An artist who has not been heard from nearly enough lately. Still one of my favorite Captain America artists of all time.

    Joe Jusko – His paintings are some of the best in the comics world. While he may not be able to do the interiors, he could definitely provide some excellent covers.

    And now I’ll step aside and let the deluge continue.

  5. Peter: If “Fallen Angel” were to, say, continue as an indy, which I realize you’re not saying it is, but if it were, might the indy (or DC) have any plans to make trades of issues #7-20?

  6. Butch Guice — because I really miss seeing his work around. But he’s exclusive to the humanoids/olympus project (I don’t remember the exact name) and…gosh is it may yet…

    …need to think about this one…

  7. Tom Mandrake is quite excellent, Jan Duursema is as well. Paul Harmon is a newcomer but very talented, and Omaha Perez has a wonderful other reality feel to his work.

  8. With regard to an artist who might be a little slow, does it HAVE to be monthly? How ’bout every 6 weeks?

    I really like the idea of some of the older artists who are forgotten by the trend-of-the-moment zombies at Wizard. Call ACTOR and see who they’ve heard from who is up for some work. Get covers done by Greg Land (covers are all Previews wants to show anyway) and rotate the interior art teams with each new storyline.

    Are Sal Buscema and Sandy Plunkett still with us? Gene Colan, Bill Loebs, Dave Cockrum, Rick Leonardi, Butch Guice, Mark Bright, Norm Breyfogle are all good ideas.

    This is all presuming the current art team are uninterested in continuing at a new home (or unwanted).

  9. Does Denys Cowan still do comic book work? You don’t get much darker or more “noir” than the Question.

  10. Dream shot? Pie-in-the-sky? The Earth-2 Will Eisner. His style would be perfect.

    Let’s see…

    Ðìçk Giordano (His work on Jonni Thunder for reference to what I mean) Everyone knows Giordano’s work, but not everyone knows he’s good at Noir.

    John Byrne, because IMHO, he does his best work when pencilling someone else’s scripts, and he’s enough of a craftsman to be able to do a chiaroscuro sort of vibe while keeping his well-known representational skills

    Keith Giffen- see his graphic novel of that Robert Bloch story (The name escapes me at present) for his noir credentials.

    Stuart Immonen, because I know him (we’re not bosom chums, but we know each other well enough to say “hi!” on the street, through the London Comics Jam) and he can illustrate in any style whatsoever.(see http://www.immonen.ca)

    Rags Morales, since his Hawkman work did a terrific job of combining noir with super-heroic dynamism

    Butch Guice, though I loved his work on Micronauts and The Flash, is really too clean-lined for this sort of book, from what I’ve seen. As for Bill Loebs, once again, I know the man to say “hi!”- (he was kind enough to autograph a whackload of Flash issues at Rhinocon 1 back in the early nineties, and I’ve been priviledged to visit a Folk Festival in his company and that of his wife) He’s one helluva writer, but his pencilling is very John Severin-esque- not what I picture for a Noir story. Still he deserves some work; I wouldn’t turn my nose up at FA illustrated by Bill. He’s capable of surprising me.

    Who I wouldn’t want:

    Any artist who’s better at crosshatching than spotting blacks- that means any of the Image-school artists including Lee, Liefeld, anyone who’d done a MacFarlane “homage”, Angel Medina, etc. Jim Valentino, however, would be welcome.

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  12. Rags Morales- I’ve loved his art since BEFORE Hourman even.

    George Perez- Nuff said.

    Thor Badendyck (sp)- Sure, it takes him half a year to draw one comic because he is paralyzied from the neck down. He still draws better with his mouth than most artists do with their hands.

    Jill Thompson- Chibi-Fallen Angel. Just once. PLEASE. Pretty please. I’ll buy three copies and wear a Burger King Crown while doing it. (On second thought, the idea of Chibi-Dolph disturbs me greatly.)

    Keith Giffen- In his if he uses his ‘This is What got me fired from drawing Legion’ style– hëll yeah.

    Keith Giffen- as his regular ‘this is what people want me to draw’ style, I don’t know if it would work there.

    Phil and Kaja Foglio- They draw my other favorite comic. And I don’t think they do comics they didn’t originate anymore.

    Pop Mhan- Yeah, that could do.

    Sergio Aragones- One of my personal favorites but it wouldn’t work– unless it was a dream sequence.

    Oliver Coipel- I loved his Legion work.

  13. Lee Bermejo. He’s got a great moody style that’s just perfect for Fallen Angel. That is, IF Fallen Angel is to be continued, and IF he is available, and not doing more work for DC.

    Just saying.

  14. First — NOT Gulacy — his Catwoman run was annoying (Slam Bradley kept switching between Bogart and Mitchum, instead of Richard X. Slattery).

    Someone mentioned Jim Aparo — if he’s still around and available, that would be good.

    (And i’m not sure why a small delirious voice in the back of my head keeps going “Severin! Severin!” but neve(r says which Severin…)

  15. I’ve liked a lot David Lopez’s work, but I understand that perhaps his name is not enough “known” to start selling the book on an indy company.

    Have you think on Amanda Conner for drawing the book? after her JSA classifeid Issues she will became a bit more “Known” and his style is similar in some points to Lopez’s work

  16. Just containing the list to artists without exclusives or ongoing jobs, I’d like to see some one who can draw people well and tells stories clearly. Garcia Lopez and Guice would be tops, but Stuart Immomen, Lee Weeks, Gordon Purcell, Jerry Ordway, Jeff Johnson and Ron Garney would be great!

  17. Well, Lee and Turner were stated not only because of their talent, but because they would instantly generate sales.
    Of the more “realistic” options, I still think Derenick would be ideal. He is not currently doing a solo series, he recently did a “Birds of prey” that had a dark tone and had sexy, strong and realistic women.
    Also, he has just snagged a “trial” high-profile gig. VERY high-profile. Once it hits shelves, from the drawings I’ve seen, his popularity is going to EXPLODE!
    Oh, and Luigi, greg Capullo was my answer to Prozac Man’s query as to who succeeded McFarlane on SPAWN, not HULK.

  18. “Sienkewicz”?

    Those suggesting him have GOT to be KIDDING. This guy is such a DREADFUL artist that he killed me off NEW MUTANTS when, at one point, he had Sam Guthrie looking almost like Frankenstein’s monster. :ppp

  19. Gene Colan, George Perez, Dale Keown, Rafael Kayanan (I loved his Conan The Adventurer art.) Lee Weeks, Sean Chen, or Gary Frank would be my choices.

    JHL

  20. You know who hasn’t been mentioned yet? Pia Guerra. Brilliant artist, and I think the style used in Y:The Last Man could really suit the book.

    POR

  21. You know who hasn’t been mentioned yet? Pia Guerra. Brilliant artist, and I think the style used in Y:The Last Man could really suit the book.

    POR

  22. I’ll toss a bone out there for one of my old co-workers…
    How about Timothy Green II, from DC’s Fraction and a couple of Darkhorse books…

  23. Keeping it realistic I would have to go with:

    Gene Colan, Jim Aparo, Paul Ryan

  24. In this order; George Perez, Bernie Wrightson (there would need to be more monsters added to the series for this guy), Norm Breyfogle and or Tom Mandrake.

  25. I don’t want a new artist, David Lopez has done a very good job, and I wouldn’t like to miss him

  26. I’ve seen some awesome suggestions here, but I’d probably go with either Jim Aparo (assuming he’s still in the business), Norm Breyfogle or Tom Mandrake. I mean, if I were to literally worship comics, these guys would be pretty good contenders for the holy trinity.

    But, of course, this is just hypothetical, we’re just spitballing, and all totally, 100% speculation. Not a one of us are saying who a new FA artist should be, because it may not continue. But, y’know, we’d all be buying it if it did.

  27. Jeff Smith? And not just ‘cuz he’s a fellow Columbus-ite. Did you see/read the penultimate battle in Bone? Dark and Awesome.

    But I’m still pulling for Bill Loebs, tho.

  28. someone mentioned with all these suggestions it might be better to state who we would NOT like to see draw it.

    My vote for someone NOT to draw this series would be for John Byrne

    Oh, and if Orson Scott Card can draw, I don’t want him either. 😉

  29. Oh, I second the Tony Harris nod. He was great for Starman, and I think he would work well on this title. Also, I’ve always been a fan of Peter Snedjberg (sp?).

  30. I’ve always been partial to Bill Sienkiewicz. 😀

    Jae Lee, Larry Stroman and Sam Kieth would work as well.

    I have somewhat quirky taste in artists. 🙂

    Wildcat

  31. Robbnn wrote; “would someone please explain to me why Mike Mignola is considered a good artist? My 7 year old can draw rings around the guy.”

    Your 7 year old may be able to draw rings around the artist. Hëll,…you could argue that many a comic pro could draw rings around Mike Mignola.
    But when you get down to the brass tacks of his design element, his ability to create a world of mood? His masterful use of blacks and his RAW ability as a pure story teller?
    Your 7 year old would be stuck back in the toddlers wading pool at the “Y”.

    Don’t mistake the fact that comics is a business. Most artists don’t have the alloted month to draw thier book. Therefore, quickness becomes not only a virtue, but a survival tactic in the business of comics. Many artists try this. They succeed. But have little to offer in the way of stand out, good story telling. AND; STORY TELLING is what comics are all about. Argue as much as you want, but pretty pictures that take over a story only hinder the point of the comic.
    Mike Mignola has created, not only striking powerful visuals that leap off the page at the reader, he’s created the perfect story telling vehicle. He shows, panel by panel, what the reader should be concentrating on. He creates fluid motion and outstanding action that moves the reader along.
    Mike not only gets the job done; he creates beautiful artwork.

    And he can draw. MAN can he draw. He doesnt try to bamboozle the reader with thousands of hatching or crosshatched lines to show action or render detail in a figure. His blacks simplify and do the deed for him. He doesnt “Trick” the reader. He’s as brutally honest an artist as there is today in the field of comics. Save for Frank Miller.

    Now, if he aint yer cuppa joe? Then walk away. Go read something else and dont worry about it.

  32. Starwolf writes;

    ” “Sienkewicz”?

    Those suggesting him have GOT to be KIDDING. This guy is such a DREADFUL artist that he killed me off NEW MUTANTS when, at one point, he had Sam Guthrie looking almost like Frankenstein’s monster. :ppp”

    Thats the beauty of art, man; one mans garbage is another mans gold.
    But if you ask an ARTIST about Bill? He’s a God.
    Go take some fine art courses and some story telling classes. You’ll get it after that.

  33. I’m not an artist, but I think Sienkiewicz is pretty amazing, too.

    Definitely an acquired taste, though — “jarring” is an understatement the first time you see his stuff.

    (Besides, if you want to talk about dreadful artists that drove people away from New Mutants, there’s a Mr. Blevins I’d like to introduce you to…)

    TWL

  34. I vote for George Perez and if possible Angel Medina from the Dreadstar run Peter did back in the 1990’s

    Regards:
    Warren S. Jones III

  35. Have you ever worked with this Gary Frank guy before? I think the two of you together could turn out something Incredible. 🙂

  36. Hey, Peter!

    Since you asked, and in no particular order:
    Kerry Gammil.
    Greg Land.
    George Perez.
    Gary Frank.
    And, to keep my list from being brought to you by the letter’G’:
    Pat Broderick.
    Mike Mignola.
    Butch Guice.
    Dale Keown.
    Bob McLeod.
    Mike Kaluta.
    Bernie Wrightson.
    My old friend Scott A. Gilbert of: “True Artist Tales” ( Hey, if he’s good enough for Dave Sim and Harvey Pekar…. )
    These are a few of my favorite artists.
    I’m just sayin’.

    Hooper

  37. OOOOO OOOOOo, I know….

    Call up Fox or WB or whoever’s still buying reality TV, and sell them on a show called “The Artist.”

    Stock it with a mix of current, “old school,” and undiscovered talent. Break them into teams, and then strand them in New York City. Every week, they get a new assignment, with part reward, part immunity. Last one on the Island wins the (totally hypothetical) job as Artist for Fallen Angel.

  38. Oh, God, no, not Jim Balent. Yes, he did do 70 issues of “Catwoman”–and chose cheescake over storytelling at every opportunity for about the last 50 of them.

    I see lots of good suggestions, here…Colleen Doran would be fantastic if she were available. Carla Speed McNeil would be interesting–I don’t think I’ve ever seen any color continuity from her, though, only covers. All the story pages I’ve seen (mostly from “Finder”) are b&w, but quite nice.
    John Severin was a name that popped into my head before, but I didn’t think he was really appropriate for the tone of “Fallen Angel.”

    Paul

  39. Eric Powell would be nice — after all, sooner or later he’s going to get tired of drawing “The Goon”

  40. Tone Rodriguez (Violent Messiahs) would be a good fit.

    Georges Jeanty, Christian Alamy or Shawn McManus also. They’d work methinks.

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