Total “Fallen Angel” hypothetical

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Understand, I’m not saying “Fallen Angel” is continuing. I’m not saying that. And if it were, which I’m not saying it is, I’m not saying that there would be a different artist, because it’s a moot question since I’m not saying it’s continuing in the first place.

But if it were continuing, which I’m not saying it is, and I were in the market for a new artist, which I’m not saying I am, who would you want to see drawing it?

PAD

254 comments on “Total “Fallen Angel” hypothetical”

  1. I’d support Leonard Kirk or Gene Colan. If not them, what about Jason Alexander? He’s got that edgy IDW style, and has done some nice work for QUEEN & COUNTRY and GOTHAM CENTRAL.

    Oh, and George Perez would, of course, rock. But that seems kind of unrealistic.

  2. Steve Ditko.

    barring that unlikely catch, I would go with Barry Windsor-Smith.

    Or Frank Cho.

  3. Leonard Kirk if available and Robin Riggs.
    Were it up to me I’d still be able to buy a Supergirl title written by PAD with the above mentioned on art.

    If not them, get any one of the artists who’s ever done one of those “bad girls with big t*ts” books. 🙂

  4. “Tom Mandrake definitely, his work on Spectre was superb.”

    Hear! Hear! He’s the first one I thought of…but might be too busy…I miss that Ostrander-Mandrake Spectre series. Anyone remember the glow-in-the-dark-but-not-really marketed-that-way cover?

    That thing scared the pi$$ out of me sitting on my bed when I turned out the light!!

    -tlp

  5. Michael Pullman: I’m totally blanking on the name, but the guy who draws League of Extraordinary Gentlemen would make an interesting fit.

    That’s Kevin O’Neill, but I think he’s a) really slow and b) working on LoEG v3.

  6. A lot of interesting suggestions (HOW many posts already?). Gary Frank stood out as soon as I saw his name, though someone said he’s currently on a high profile book (what?) I did think of Jeff Purves before he came up up above – was not a fan of his work when he started on Hulk, but he definitely grew on me. But, I assume he’s out of the business since no one’s seems to know of anything from him in years (?). George Perez is a great artist, but would he be too “bright” for this title (similiar problem mentioned with Jurgens and Ordway above)? “Funzo!” may have been kidding with the Geoff Senior comment, I’m not sure, but there is a certain noirishness to his work …. (and he was one of the best Marvel Tranformers artists, for the record, the Wildman/Baskerville team being the other contender…. Anyone know what Stephen Baskerville is up to? He is quite an inker [If anyone wants to see how much of a difference an inker can make, try to find G.I. Joe #139; Baskerville only inked the first nine pages. You’ll never believe the entire issue was drawn by the same artist ….]; not sure about pencils ….) As long as we’re speculating (or in my case, rambling) on hypotheticals – does Larry Hama ever do pencils any more? His “name” name might help attract some interest …? And I’ll add my respect for David Lopez’s work. I’ll probably return with more thoughts if I have them (if there are any thoughts in this post in the first place 🙂 ).

  7. Okay, let’s think realistically here.

    Rogue was just cancelled and given Karl Moline’s superb work on Route 666 and Fray, two books that, while not exactly in the same vein as Fallen Angel, had the same kinds of artistic needs as Fallen Angel.

    Another ex-Crossgener I would look into would be Mike Perkins, a fantastic artist who can do great dark stuff as well (no one saw the prelims for his never-to-be published Raven House, but I did and they would suit the Fallen Angel universe perfectly)

  8. I would also vote for Bill Messner-Loebs or Tim Mandrake. Either would be an excellent choice.

  9. Gary Frank is currently doing Supreme Power with J. Michael Straczynski for Marvel, which is the highest selling mature readers book at either publisher in a quite while.

    I thought Leonardo Manco was the one who was supposed to do Raven House. He’s doing Hellblazer now before anyone asks.

    Karl Moline is another good choice.

  10. When did ROGUE get cancelled? I was planning on buying it in trades starting with Moline’s issues. If he’s free, he would indeed be a good choice for FA (though be prepared for the Joss comparisons yet again, PAD, seeing as how Moline first got major attention for FRAY).

  11. I didn’t have time to read through all the post just yet but if nobody has said them I’ll suggest Gary Frank and Cam Smith (I think those are the correct names) from the initial run on Supergirl and run on the Hulk.

    If somebody has all ready suggested them then consider this a 2nd.

  12. Rogue is rumored to be cancelled over at All the Rage.

    As for Igor Kordey… the bottom line is, maybe his X-Men work was just rushed, but that’s what he is best known for. The only thing this book needs less than an unknown artist, is one that makes fans say “Oh no! Not him!” And fair or unfair, that is the reaction most fans have to him now.

  15. I’ve always been a fan of Klaus Janson’s work – not just his inking but his pencilling as well. I just read Batman: Death and the Maidens and was blown away. If not as a penciller, then a great choice as inker.
    I’m partial to Bill Seinkiewicz art and will pick up anything he’s done for a bit (unless the writing drives me away).

  16. you know, I was going to compile this list for all ya’ll, but after wasting an hour (don’t worry, I’m at work, so no big deal… 😉 ) I realized I was only half-way through all the comments, got demoralized and gave up. Sorry, folx. Just as an FYI, Tom Mandrake, Tony Harris, Gaydos and Mike Mignola were leading the polls.

  17. Why not stick with David Lopez? I like his stuff. BTW, is he moving on to something else?

  18. What about Norm Breyfogle. I haven’t seen him draw anything in years and I don’t remember how his women look…

    But I loved his moody style on Detective back in the day.

    Kevin

  20. Well I’d love to see my art in it, but where reality actualy comes into play maybe someone like Ale Gazra or Ed Benes.

    Ed is doing Superman now, but you worked with him before and “possibly” on the same character 🙂

    Ale is pretty good at smooth action.

    Both however may lack that “Darkness” I think is needed in the book.

    -Andy

  21. Keith Giffen.

    If not. Mike Kaluta.

    If not…
    Ted McKeever.

    But a cover by Keith Giffen, or Ted McKeever (since we had a Mike Kaluta one) works for me.

  23. The real question now is – as so many mainstream artists have been mentione – who wouldn’t you want, or is there no one left?

  25. Well, one thing is for sure. There is definitely a lot of interest in FA continuing! 123 posts and counting. While I am sure it was not PAD’s reason for starting this up, it sure demonstrates there is a lot of interest in this book — if, of course, it does continue.

    More power to ya.

    Iowa Jim

  29. I’ll post another hopeful George Perez vote, but I’d also like to second an earlier poster’s idea to use Darick Robertson.

    One of the keys to FALLEN ANGEL is the unique setting. You’ll want an artist who can really help a locale feel alive and emotional, and Robertson did just that for Transmetropolitan. It would also be nice to give Darick a chance to show that he’s capable of doing more than the “Chaos Science Fiction City” style of Transmet.

    – Isaac

  30. If dark is what you are looking for (not that you are looking for anything), what about John Paul Leon? Easily my favourite thing about the entire Earth X series was his amazing (although admittedly highly stylized) artwork – it could be a great fit…

    If a colourist is what you are looking for (not that you are looking for a colourist when you are not even looking for an artist), hey, there is always…
    http://www.angelfire.com/comics/red_bee/

    …but that would be shameless self-promotion 🙂 so it is a good thing you aren’t looking for a colourist on a series you aren’t looking for an artist on….

  31. Colleen Doran is working on a graphic novel called Stealth Tribes with Warren Ellis for DC and was also just announced as the artist for a new creator-owned monthly series from Marvel called Book of Lost Souls with J. Michael Straczynski.

  32. This post seems to be very popular. Imagine if every one of them read Fallen Angel 😛

    I’m not sure if I’d want a new artist. David Lopez has been doing amazing work here – he’s one of the reasons why I love the book so much. And I thought he was co-creator or something…

    Anyway, if I really had to pick an artist…does Carla Speed McNeil (Queen & Country, Frank Ironwine, Finder) lend herself well to full-coloured works? If not how about Lan Medina?

  33. At the risk of getting my tush kicked for going off on a tangent…

    would someone please explain to me why Mike Mignola is considered a good artist? My 7 year old can draw rings around the guy.

    Ed Benes, to stay on topic.

  34. Since this is an ipotetical question I’ll make some assumption ( making an ášš of u and me… i know )
    a) You’ll need somebody reliable, that can provide monthly issues (like Lopez)
    b) You’ll need somebody that will stay with you for at least twelve issues
    c) You’ll need someone that’s not a Wizard Top 10 Artist, cause he will cost you ( and the ipotetic company, like for example IDW ) too much money
    d) Somebody that’s not Exclusive to DC or Marvel (That’s the hard one !!)

    I find that the perfect choice could be the (sometimes) hated Kordey, i susggest you to look at his upcoming Smoke mini by IDW (coincidentally), and if you want to se him at his best you should also take a look at the Black Widow mini he drew (written by Rucka) and his Cable/SoldierX tenure.
    His X-Treme X-men work is not at the same level, he was badly inked to look similar to the Larocca style.

    He has worked in other projects ( Tarzan and others ) but I know him better for his Marvel work.
    He left Marvel stating that he hated superheroes and spandex, so he is a natural for Bete Noir and its carachters…
    Check him at http://www.kordey.ca/kordey/

    I should also add:
    – Leo Fernandez ( from Punisher & Wolverine )
    – Michael Gaydos (from Alias)
    – Lan Medina (Fables, Silver Surfer, District X )

    Ipotetically speaking,
    Good Luck,
    Omar

    ( sorry for the grammar spelling… i’m italian )

  35. Hmmm. If L. Kirk is not available, and you do not want to go with a British Artist, the dilemna is picking a professional artist that is not signed up to either Marvel or DC or is booked up to the next century.

    I like the suggestion of Gene Colan because his artwork personifies moodyness without becoming too cartoony. I also like Mike Kaluta and Amanda Conner.

    Regarding William Messers-Loebs, frankly I would not want him drawing this book as I would rather if he went back to drawing do his own book such as the return of JOURNEY.

    By the way, I am not related to “the J. Alexander.” No artistic talent whatsoever (me, not him). Mr. Alexander’s name does bring up a good point. There are plenty of great B&W artists working for the smaller companies. I would heavily recommend Drew Hayes of POISON ELVES fame, if he is healthy enough. Peter and Drew would either end up killing each other or produce a masterpiece.

    The other J. Alexander

  37. Realistic choices:

    Ron Garney: Ron had a great run with Waid on Captain America. He might fit with this title.

    Lee Weeks: His recent Hulk stuff has looked really good, imo. I think he’d be a really good fit for this!

    Gary Frank-Gary Frank would be a GREAT fit for this title, imo.

    Keith Giffen-I liked his issue of Captain Marvel. He’s done some other good stuff too. Not sure how well he would fit though. Might be interesting though!

    Prob never happen, but I’d be reading the book every week and multiple times if it did:

    Tim Sale-Tim knows how to do dark and moody stuff. I think he’d give this book the right feel. Still, never seen him do an ongoing monthly book, so I doubt that this would happen. And even if it did, it would only be for a short run..

    Brent Anderson-The Astro City and Rising Stars artist. This guy can do dark, light, etc. He’d be a good pick for this title, though he’s prob too busy to do this title! Then again, Rising Stars has ended…

    John Cassaday-He’s pretty busy right now with Astonishing X-men and Planetary sometimes. I highly doubt he’d do this.

    Mike Mignola-The Hellboy stuff I’ve seen is really good. I like his style. Its unique and different. I think it would give Fallen Angel a stand out look and get people interested. I don’t see him doing too much non-Hellboy stuff though (of course..I haven’t read much of his stuff, so maybe he does some..). Its a long shot..though it would be cool!

    And hey, if you can get Alex Ross to do the covers, Fallen Angel will sell like hot cakes!

    DF2506

  38. I’ll add to the Gene Colan and George Perez voices, but I’m going to dig back into some of my favorite artists from one of my favorite series and toss out a few possibilities, some largely fantasy:

    Mike Grell (excellent figures, used to scantily-clad women and violence)
    Pat Broderick (wonderful work with light/dark)
    Jim Sherman (The man can OOZE atmosphere)
    Dave Cockrum (style never “grabbed” me, but he’s a big name, needs the money/work, and is a professional)

    I don’t think Keith Giffen or Frank Miller would work. I loved them both in their ultra-realistic phases, but their stuff since then is way too cartoony/childish/abstract/sketchy to suit my tastes.

    Non-Legion artists I think could do well would be Michael Golden and Jackson “Butch” Guice.

    And if we’re gonna go strictly into fantasy, including artists who have died, I think Gil Kane would have been good.

    J.

  39. Brian Douglas Ahern.

    Seriously.

    Nobody ever sees his super hero stuff. He’s as detailed as Perez and Jimenez.

    And unlike them, he’s hungry for it.

  40. You guys do realize that most of the names that are being thrown around the most (Benes, Garney etc) are exclusive to DC and therefore wouldn’t be able to do anything at an indy publisher…right?

    Yeah, it’s not just a rumor. Rogue is gone.

    Manco was supposed to do Raven House but dropped out when Crossgen began to implode so Perkins stepped in. He got a couple splashes done and then Crossgen went bankrupt. Gorgeous gothic stuff. Look no father than his miniseries Spellbinders right now to see he could be perfect for Fallen Angel

  42. My pie-in-the-sky choice would by Phil Jimenez. I was introduced to his work on Invisibles and I decided that he does really great mystic stuff. And he draws a realllllly sexy red-head.

    Of course, I strongly suspect that Phil’s not a realistic option, even in a hypothectical situation like this. I like Elaine’s suggestion. I’ve never seen Robin Riggs pencil anything, but I’ve seen his inks, so he sounds good, penciling and/or inking.

  43. Marty Egeland.

    And then each month slowly change Fallen Angel into FAqllen Aamagel then to fAqullen AMagn to Aquaen AMAN to AQUAMAN.

    Huh? Huh? Am I on to something?

  45. I’d like to see Norm Breyfogle. He was great on Batman and Spectre, but I don’t think I’ve seen anything of his since that title was cancelled. He’s dark and moody, but can do lighter work when required. I think he would be perfect, and probably available since he can’t seem to get work from DC anymore like a lot of their top artists from 10 years ago.

    –your pal, Hoy

  46. The first artist I thought of was Tom Mandrake, and I was happy to see that many others thought of him as well.

    Tomm Coker would be my second choice.

  48. Hows about Steve Dillon?

    He has the ability to do great facial expressions and give you a nice moody, dark feel.

  49. John Paul Leon and Tomm Coker would be excellent choices.If you could talk him into it, Lee Bermejo would be good, too.

  50. Let me see……
    Gary Frank,Lee weeks,John Cassaday,Phil Hester,
    Chris Cross,Kevin Maguire,Adam Hughes,Art Adams,
    Doug Mahnke,Kelley Jones,Marc Silvestri,Bryan Hitch.Salvador Larocca,
    Whew!!!

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