Spidey Crossover

There’s some active discussion on Newsarama over the upcoming Spidey crossover that’s going to intersect with the launch of “Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man.” I posted a response which I think might be useful here as well–

Guys…it’s real simple:

1) It’s a way of doing a crossover story in which writers don’t feel like they’re doing bits and pieces; (2) readers who prefer particular writers can read a month of their stories in a row rather than piecemeal chapters; (3) regular readers of the respective books will be exposed to writers and might–with any luck–like what they see and check out those writers on their own regular, respective titles.

My first month of stories will essentially be one complete tale. FNSM is told from Peter’s POV, MK will be from MJ’s POV, and the third will focus on Aunt May. The main storyline will be resolved by Part 3, which will be in ASM. Now…will it have elements that tie into a larger crossover? Yes. One would hope they’ll be interesting enough to prompt readers to continue reading the full arc. But if not, you’ll still have a complete story, soup to nuts, just as if I were doing a three parter in FNSM. The only difference is that you’ll get it in one month rather than three. I would like to think that’s a good thing. But if you guys think that’s a bad thing and don’t want to read them, well…okay. I think that’s kind of unfortunate, but it’s your call.

PAD

107 comments on “Spidey Crossover

  1. Well, I, for one, am unhappy about the return of crossovers in monthly titles. This one doesn’t hurt my wallet because I buy all the Spidey books. However, I fear that the management at both of the Big Two is starting something that many readers won’t finish. I mean, we had the 90’s already, and look how they turned out. Why is the industry going back to these short-sighted contrivances that seem (in my view) to drive readers away in the long run?

    That said, PAD, I hope that FNSM works out well for you and that you do pick up plenty of readers from the crossover. I’m really looking forward to your tenure on the book.

    Eric

  2. Well, I’m sort of irked/inconvienced that I have to take FNSM off my pull list already(I stuck it on there the second it was solicited), since I’m not dumping down three dollars for a Hudlin issue. His work has been somewhere between lackluster and depressingly bad. Though one can only hope that working so closely with JMS and PAD will do him some good.

    Past that I don’t mind too much. Beats the status quo of stories that take half a year to get finished (and not big stories like JSA’s Princes of Darkness and Flash’s Rogue War that have been built up for years).

  3. Thanks for the heads up. I’m sorry to say but I hate crossovers. I guess I won’t be getting FNSM after all.

  4. Screw crossover hating; I’m getting FNSM regardless. I might not particularly appreciate a crossover arc right off the bat, but it makes a certain sort of sense… exposes readers on all titles to the new title/writer, and acts as lure for the existant Spidey titles.

    Now, if it’s going to be crossover mania for half the year’s worth of issues, I might change my position come this time 2006… but ‘fear of crossover’ alone isn’t going to keep me from picking up ‘FNSM.’ Like PAD said, you don’t HAVE to buy the other titles.

    I probably will, though, to be completist. Stupid Type-A genes!

  5. …should have read “existING Spidey titles.” Midnight is just not a good time for me to be thinking.

  6. It’s interesting that Marvel pretty much stopped doing crossovers when PAD left his titles, and now they’re starting up again now that PAD is back.

    Actually, I’m kind of excited about the crossover. One of the reasons I stopped reading Straczynski’s Spider-man was because he appeared to simply abandon the whole spider-totem plot thread. It didn’t seem to go anywhere and it seemed to end with little fanfare. Glad to see it hasn’t been abandoned after all.

  7. I’m afraid that I was one of the people griping about the crossover at Newsarama.

    I haven’t read a Spider-Man book in years. When I heard about you and Mike on FNSM, it actually got me excited about reading Spider-Man again. I was looking forward to a series where you could tell your own Spidey stories. I don’t know, I guess I was expecting FNSM to be just your book and that I wouldn’t have to buy the other two to get your story.

    You do present a good argument for this crossover. From a writing perspective, I agree with you about the “one writer a month” idea is good. It should make this much better than normal crossovers. And exposing the readers who only buy one book (like I was planning to do with FNSM) to the other Spidey writers is a good idea too.

    Maybe I’m thinking too traditionally. One book-one writer-one story. A 3-part, complete Spidey story by you in one month is definately exciting. So, what’s my problem? I don’t know.

    To end my rambling, I’ll just say that I’m looking forward to your Spidey issues in Oct. And, who knows, I love being surprised about enjoying a story when I didn’t think I would. I just might be eating crow as I enjoy the other writers’ parts of this crossover. It should be fun regardless of what happens.

    Lex

    P.S. I enjoyed your responce to my Newsarama post about FNSM not being Part 3 of the crossover. 🙂

  8. I like crossovers.
    I also like strong continuity. I, personally, thought that the numbering of the Superman books to have continuity was one of the best thing ever done in comics.

    I’ll buy them all.

  9. Maybe it’s just me, but what does not liking crossovers have to do with whether you’re going to pick up an ongoing title long-term or not? Just skip the crossover issues and come back for the regular run. Saying “I hate crossovers, guess I’ll skip reading the entire run of your series,” strikes me as kind of petulant. Everyone here is obviously savvy enough to know who is writing a given issue and who isn’t, so buy the writers you like and skip the ones you don’t. Also, most comic shop pull list people (being one myself) are happy to take notes and edits… tell your shop you want all the issues except the crossover and they’ll give you that. It makes it much easier for them to operate if they know what their clientele is planning on buying.

  10. Well, PAD, you can count on me picking up your books in October. The rest…definitely “wait and see,” but leaning toward “no” for reasons of personal taste. PAD, at least you’re getting me to break my “no ASM” rule, just this once!

    Good news that a complete story will be in your 3-parter!:-)

    Good luck with this one, PAD!

    ~G.

  11. Well, as much as I despise crossovers, I’ll just do like I usually do – get the PAD books and not worry about the rest. And I’ll look at the three issues as one big PAD-written Spidey story which is never, ever a bad thing in my opinion.

  12. Well now, here’s a dilemma. I dislike crossovers so usually when they hit I skip the title for the duration, and IF I hear amazing things about them (which I never did so far) I’ll get the trade. Out of the 3 titles involved here, 2 are on my list and the only reason MKSM isn’t is I’m very unexcited about Hudlin’s work.

    On a sidenote, I think it’s important to say that since crossovers seem like a pretty much unavoidable annoyance nowadays (again), at least SOME good word should go to Marvel for playing around with the format both in HOM and here, trying to find a way to make it more interesting at least – and, of course, for having a very reliable TPB program in place.

    So, as I really DO want to read the story, I guess I could say ‘well, 2 out of 3 isn’t bad’ and get the singles as they get published, including the Hudlin work. But for whatever reason, ASM has a tendency to be late, and it would annoy me even more to have to wait for part 5 when 7 is already published (or whatever).

    Guess it might be ‘Waiting for the trade’ after all, at the risk of being subjected to spoilers until it’s out.

    We’ll see.

  13. I appreciate your take/explanation/spin on the matter, but it doesn’t make the case as far as I’m concerned.
    I haven’t picked up a regular Spider-title in more than a decade and was really looking forward to your book. I wanted to read YOUR run on “Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man” not your FIRST issue then have to skip the next two issues as “fill-in” writers put their touches on “your” book, only to resume with issue 4. As it stands, I’m afraid I can’t put my support behind this. On the other hand, I will be ordering the Kolchak: The Night Stalker Chronicles book (admittedly, I’m a Kolchak fan and would’ve probably ordered it anyway, so your participation is more a case of a special incentive) and I’m also really interested in reading your take on Carl Kolchak in the upcoming “Kolchak Tales” comic. Perhaps if my interest in Spider-Man were at the same level as my interest in Carl Kolchak, I’d be more willing to take a chance on this Spider-Man crossover; unfortunately, it’s not.
    But good luck with “Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man” even though I won’t be along for the ride.

  14. Likewise, I’m sadly forced to drop FNSM as well. This just isn’t what I was looking for – and yes, it’s VERY significant that the beginning of what I’d hoped would be my first Spidey core book is swallowed up by a crossover spinning out of a JMS storyline.

    And even if I didn’t mind the concept of a crossover, a collaboration between PAD, Hudlin and Straczynski sounds about as appealing as a musical performance by Frank Sinatra, Roseanne Barr and Steve Urkel.

  15. I will get FNSM but, no, not the other books of that crossover.

    I am already getting fed up with Marvel again because of this “House of M” mega crossover event. It is MUCH too big and offputting. I pre-ordered the core series but will stick to the regular series I am buying anyway.

    Starting a regular series with a crossover is definitely a bad idea and I can only hope it won`t harm the start of FNSM.

  16. I’m curious as to what some people have against JMS’s Spidey title. I’ve very much enjoyed his work on it, and have been delighted with what he’s done on various story lines, from getting Peter and MJ back together to May’s finding out the truth about Peter. And now, his being part of the Avengers and living in the Tower? Very nicely handled, too.

  17. I’ll only have to buy 2 extra books in order to get everything PAD writes in the crossover, and an unbroken FNSM? That’s not too bad. I’ve seen worse.

  18. Only have one problem woth crossovers, and that’s when it’s just a publicity stunt a la “Hey, look who’s in our book!” If the story works (and a) I have the money/time to get it and b)I can keep Brian the 4 year old from decimating the books before I read them) I’m all for it. It makes the world in the book a little more real, y’know? IUt was one of my big continuity arguements with Trek since the 7th season of Next Genereation. Yeah, we’re focused in on our heroes, but that doesn’t mean the rest of the world just sits on it’s thumbs and nothing happens!

  19. As long you really can get a full story with FNSM I’m sticking around. (Sorry, bad pun.) No chance of me grabbing a second book even if Hulk: Destruction is over by then. I’m a DC fanboy with far too many Marvel books of late. I don’t mind when they’re books or creators I like. Hulk, Hulk: Destruction, FNSM (sensing a pattern here), Defenders (What? Peter’s not writing that one!) and possibly Drax the Destroyer (oh joy! Another pattern.)

  20. As I posted at Newsarama, this crossover effectively stopped me from buying the new book. From what I’ve read about it so far, I’ve no interest in this storyline. Period. It’s a shame, at a time when I’m slowly but surely decreasing what Marvel titles I buy (down to 4 now), PAD had me buying a new title from them. But leave it to Marvel to screw that up.

    I hope everything goes well on the new book, I just won’t buy it.

  21. Wait…I’m getting two different messages here.

    1) PAD will be writing three books in one month for the crossover.

    2) The crossover will last three months, with JMS and Hudlin continuing to write their own titles.

    Which is it? I see a LOT of people saying “Goodbye FNSM” and citing that they don’t want to pick up Hudlin-written books.

  22. For God’s sake. Would everyone who’s about to jump off a bridge over this crossover just step outside, breathe some fresh air, and start picking up FNSM with #4?

    Where’s your sense of perspective?

    Oh, that’s right. We’re comics fans.

  23. Actually, despite all the internet naysaying, I don’t think there’s a lot for you to be worried about, Peter.

    It’s a number 1, a Spider-Man title, and an important (the first) part of a crossover. A lot of are going to buy it regardless. And sales will probably stay strong through issue 2 and 3, and if this board and Newsarama is any indication, you’ll much less of a drop off than usual with issue 4 because the people who are holding off until then will be jumping on. It actually bodes sort of well for the title, from a sales perspective, if you ask me.

    That said, I’m still not wasting money on a Hudlin issue. Both his MK SM and BP frustrate me to no end. And while I appriciate a lot of JMS’ work (B5, Midnight Nation, Delicate Creatures and even Supreme Power sometimes), I did drop his ASM a while back because it just wasn’t doing it for me.

    So I’ll probably check out 1, and then come back in with 4, and if I like where things are headed after that, stick it back on the pull list. This just made it from a sure buy to an eventual, probable buy.

  24. Chip,

    Being the completist that I am, I’d prefer to start from the beginning. IMO, this crossover is “preventing” that. I’ve no interest in starting with #4 after being quite excited to start with #1 with the announced creative team of PAD and ‘Ringo. (I know, it sounds petty…..) I despise JMS’s handling of ASM (really do not like this announced storyline) and I’ve never read any of Hudlin’s writing.

    Personally, I just think this is a piss-poor way to begin what appeared to be a wonderful new book. Marvel’s losing more fans in doing this than in gaining them….

  25. If I were still making most of my purchases at a comic shop in person, this might not be a big deal. But I place my titles on a Reserve list and my retailer mails them to me twice a month. It is just too difficult to tell him, “Send me these 3 other Spidey titles, but only for this month so I can read the PAD issues.” For this reason, this is NOT a good idea and may turn me off to the new title entirely.

  26. yes, i’ll pick it up. No, I’m not thrilled about the crossover, but i’m a Peter David fan and will support his work. If the story is self-contained enough that I’m not “forced” to pick up additional titles/books that I normally would not have, super. if the story is -so- compelling that I feel ..um…compelled (dámņ, where’s my thesaurus) to buy the additional books, well actually that’s great too since it means i’m getting a story of that quality.

    my biggest fear in reading the Nrama article has to do with the storyline itself. I’m not familiar with what has gone before (the Ezekiel storyline)…but the whole, “peter parker may not have been the first spider-man” (paraphrasing) is somewhat unsettling. This isn’t a person who was born with his powers. he received them quite by accident. Dunno. I’m picturing eons of geeky science students being in the “wrong place” at the “wrong time”, who just happened to get bit by radioactive spiders in order to accomodate this notion of an eternal ‘totem’ of ‘spidermen’.

    I’ve never thought there was anything ‘mystic’ about Spider-Man. Wrong place. Wrong time. Spider bite. Ouch. Powers. Story plays out from there.

    I’ll still pick up the books with as open a mind as possible. Peter hasn’t let me down before. Even if this is the first time…well, that’s still a pretty dámņëd good ratio.

  27. Actually, I think it’s a novel approach to the crossover idea. I remember being infuriated by “X-Cutioner’s Song” since it seemed like three different writers with three different ideas of where to take the story. The story seemed a little on the schizophrenic side when Parts 1, 5, and 9 were written by Scott Lobdell, Parts 2, 6, and 10 by PAD, and the rest by Nicieza. This way, at least, we get a cohesive bit of narrative. As I’ve been following JMS’s Amazing and I planned on getting FNSM all along, the only real additional expense is MK Spidey.

    My only issue is why Marvel seems to want to ram Reggie Hudlin down our throats, between the Spidey crossover and the upcoming Uncanny X-Men/Black Panther four-parter.

  28. I’m already following JMS Spidey and loving it and was planning to get FNSM too so this isn’t a problem for me.

    I’ve wanting to see tighter continuity between the various Spider-Man titles so I’m not going to complain.

  29. I’m curious as to what some people have against JMS’s Spidey title.

    I’m not sure if it’s JMS that’s the problem or if Bendis has taken over the Marvel Universe. 🙂

    Kind of like how X-Men related stuff (Age of Apocalypse, Onslaught) took over the Marvel Universe in the 90’s.

    I saw the House of M checklist. Like four dozen issues, total, over a bunch of different books.

    Ok, and here I thought the Age of Massive Crossovers had ended as well.

  30. My big gripe about crossovers is the same as my gripe about the current trend in extended 6-issue-or-so stories; if you’re going to tell a tale over a lot of pages, make sure every page is worth it. I want a GREAT story in every book I read. No slacking.

    A lot of the crossovers in the 90s didn’t do that. So fans boughts lots of issues that weren’t very good.

    If this doesn’t happen in “The Other”, great! I hope (and expect) that you, JMS, and Judlin will combine to tell a great story. I’m looking forward to the event.

    And honestly, if it doesn’t work, I’m still going to stick around, unless you do something absolutely horrible.

  31. I missed you PAD. I’m glad you’re back! If for no other reason than now we (PAD’s web community) can whine, bi*ch and moan about something other than flag burning, the Pledge of Allegiance and censorship. I was sick to DEATH of those topics.

  32. heh.

    BBayliss is going to be in for quite the shock when page 1 of FNSM is a splash page of spidey burning the flag while reciting the Pledge of Allegiance (except the phrase “one nation under God” won’t appear because it’s going to be censored) 🙂

  33. Charlie Griefer. The revolution is approaching. Consider yourself “on the list.”

    😉

  34. “1) PAD will be writing three books in one month for the crossover.

    2) The crossover will last three months, with JMS and Hudlin continuing to write their own titles.

    Which is it? I see a LOT of people saying “Goodbye FNSM” and citing that they don’t want to pick up Hudlin-written books.”

    The first is correct. And in the second month, Reggie will be writing MK as well as the other two Spidey books, and in the third month JMS will be writing ASM as well as the other two books.

    So basically people are willing to bag my entire new Spider-Man series based on two issues not written by me. Not to go all Darth Vader, but…I find your lack of faith disturbing.

    Of course, the kicker is that if FNSM has low sales as a result of people shunning the crossover, the thinking will likely be, “Hunh. Fans weren’t interested in reading Peter David on Spider-Man.”

    PAD

  35. [i]Of course, the kicker is…[/i]

    Even worse is that if all of your fans only buy issue #1, then they’ll just say that the numbers are due to its being an issue #1.

  36. Of course, the kicker is that if FNSM has low sales as a result of people shunning the crossover, the thinking will likely be, “Hunh. Fans weren’t interested in reading Peter David on Spider-Man.”

    I dunno.

    I think the kicker is that Marvel is willing to pull this stunt on a new book that, people are going to buy a) because it’s a Spider-Man title, or b) because you’re writing it.

    So, if somebody goes and buys #1, and then they see that you’re not on #2, and they’re buying it because your name is on the cover, should it surprise you if they are no longer interested?

  37. Frankly, it’s a bad idea full stop. If these were issues 13-15, it wouldn’t hurt the book so much, but it’s issues 1-3, and that could kill the book.

    You should have pushed for your issues to stay in FNSM, even if it meant the story took three months rather than one.

    (I won’t be getting the crossover BTW)

  38. I agree with the general sentiment here: I was thinking about checking out this series, but I hate crossovers. I’m not interested in the other creators – and comics are way too expensive for me to jump into a concept that I’m not fond of, involving a lot of creators that I’m just not into.

    I’m going to skip the first three months and give FNSM a chance at issue #4.

  39. Well, I’d like to think that if people buy #1, but not #s 2 and 3, and then come back for #4, whatever marketing brains at Marvel would be able to attribute that to “lack of PADness”. That, to me, would seem the sensible approach to the die-hard PAD-a-maniac: Buy the first three parts of “The Other”, as written by PAD, skip the next two issues of FNSM, then pick it up again at #4. You’ll have spent about the same amount of money as you would have on just FNSM #s 1-3, be able to read all of the Peter Davidey goodness, and not risk being “tainted” by Hudlin or Straczynski.

    Still, no offense to the writer, I would think that FNSM #2-3 would be worth picking up on the merits of Wieringo’s art alone.

  40. Charlie, as has been discussed elsewhere, JMS left the whole “totem or accident?” thing open to interpretation. Ezekiel certainly believes Peter was chosen by this “spider-totem”, and some others seem to believe/have believed it as well, but the last I saw (forced to stop for a while, as, oddly enough, it’s tough to locate comic shops here in San Diego, home of the International Comics Convention), Peter wasn’t fully buying into it. (Besides, I like the Avengers thing because I get to watch May flirting with Jarvis, and shutting Wolvie’s antisocial habits down cold. Wolvie needs to be told “no” more often.)

    That said, I do plan on picking this up, if I can find out when it starts (finally found On COmic Ground last week! Yay!). I’m not familiar with Reggie Hudlin, but I like PAD’s writing, and I think he and JMS will mesh well (solid secondary characters, puns – what’s not to love?).

  41. Okay. Yes, I can see how this could be inconvenient enough for people with pre-orders that they may just decide to drop the whole thing for the duration.

    What I’ll probably do is put FNSM on my pull, then try to remember to pick up the other two books the month PAD’s writing them. But if either of the non-PAD FNSM issues end up in the First Looks packs, I will probably ask my store not to hold them for me if I dislike the results (and will make such advisories public).

    With JMS, I’m liking his scripting, but not really his plotting, which is why I’m not buying ASM. With Hudlin, I’m disliking everything, but it’s possible that in a situation where he’s required to not screw things up for the next writer he might do okay.

    Anyway, it doesn’t solve the problem of crossovers being disruptive gimmicks intended to prop up the sales of one of the titles at the expense of readability. A lateral situation like this will at least result in coherent stories…but why not just NOT cross over in that case? Tell the three sides of the story in FNSM in three successive months, borrowing supporting cast as necessary? The way it’s going, it’s really just “FNSM #1-3 will come out all in one month, then three issues of ASM in one month, and three issues of MKSM in one month, with two months of hiatus in each book. And misleading logos on two of the three issues each month.”

    I don’t avoid crossover-heavy lines because of storyline incoherence. I avoid them because it becomes all-or-nothing. You can’t just read one X-Book or one Batbook or one Superbook during times of crossover mania. Making the storylines more coherent doesn’t solve this problem, it just makes bending over and taking it a bit more palatable.

  42. I’m with most people here. PAD, your name and Mike’s are big draws for me independently, and I was thrilled at the prospect of the combination. My view of new series launches is: it’s a chance for a fresh take on the character from a new creative team, more or less independent of the rest of the line, and also a chance for new fans to get in on the ground floor. This stunt makes it feel like FNSM is just a way to publish 50% more of the same crap each month.

    What is a new fan going to think, convinced to take a chance on a big #1 and a snazzy Ringo cover, only to find “to be continued in Marvel Knights Spider-Man #XYZ!!!!” He or she will drop it like a rock.

    What about old-timers who’ve gotten jaded about mainstream event-based crap and might have been lured back at the prospect of good fun and great stories from PAD and MW? Who want a NEW kind of Spider-Man? I planned to buy FNSM because I want to read FNSM, not Generic Spider-Man Comics Weekly.

    I don’t mind trying to introduce readers to different styles, but that’s what backup features and preview are for. Hijacking the first three months of a brand new series is just suicide – and it doesn’t make for good comics.

    This is, quite simply, a terrible idea. I don’t imagine you can do anything about it now, but I can’t just sit back and let this pass without comment.

  43. “Bending over and taking it?”

    Dave, I read and enjoyed your Rants and reviews back in the day on Usenet. Great stuff. But “bending over and taking it” in relation to the decision whether to buy a crossover or not … this is that perspective thing I was talking about.

  44. “So basically people are willing to bag my entire new Spider-Man series based on two issues not written by me. Not to go all Darth Vader, but…I find your lack of faith disturbing.”

    Is it so hard to understand the perspective of the jaded reader? I’m not interested in crossovers. At all. I’m so bloody sick of “Events” that I will cartwheel backwards to avoid them.

    When FNSM was first announced, there were NO indications it would start out like this. And personally, as someone who finds nothing of interest in either Hudlin’s or Straczynski’s work, I was hoping this would be the series to provide readable, enjoyable, SELF-CONTAINED Spider-Man stories.

    Instead, I get this.

    Crossovers, by their very nature, presuppose a larger story that you don’t get if you’re not reading everything included. I don’t want to read Hudlin or JMS, therefore I’m not reading “The Other”.

    But why not just start at #4? Simple. The mandate for this event is likely the same as all other events: “Change [Insert Character Here] F-O-R-E-V-E-R”. It’s a fair guess that “The Other” will implement status quo changes all Spider-books will reflect.

    So I don’t want to read it and I can’t work around it. And unless you can guarantee me that issue #4 will be tabula rasa… well, I don’t see the point.

    That’s why I’m bagging FNSM.

    “Of course, the kicker is that if FNSM has low sales as a result of people shunning the crossover, the thinking will likely be, “Hunh. Fans weren’t interested in reading Peter David on Spider-Man.”

    *shrug* Then you shouldn’t have agreed to the crossover.

  45. I’m curious as to what some people have against JMS’s Spidey title.

    Can’t speak for anyone else but me, but….

    It committed the cardinal sin that any book by any creator can make: It didn’t make me want to come back for more. Then there’s the whole “spider-totem” thing. I mean, hadn’t I already read that when Mark Waid called it the “Speed Force” over in Flash? 😉 Similarly, on a broader scope, JMS’s work (regardless of medium) has consistently had that same effect: It’s never made me want to come back for more. Of course, I also think that the owner of the comic store summed up my reaction to his ASM quite nicely, shortly after JMS began on the book: “Well, at least it doesn’t suck quite as bad as it did before.”

    —————————

    Now, regarding this “crossover,” forgive me if I’m unaware of the details. I’m not a regular reader of Newsarama, so all I have to go by is what I’ve seen here. So, let me see if I’ve got it straight:

    FNSM #1 – By PAD & Ringo.
    FNSM #’s 2 & 3 – Not by PAD, and part of a crossover with the other books, correct?

    If so, I’ll probably be keeping FNSM on my pull list, but skipping #’s 2 & 3. Why? Well…there’s a reason I don’t read the other Spidey books. Namely, they do nothing for me. I see no reason why I should believe that the work of creators who don’t “grab” me should have any other effect if it’s under the banner of another book whose regular writer does consistently entertain and interest me.

    Still on the fence on #1 and PAD’s other two installments that month. On the one hand, I want to support PAD’s work. On the other, do I really want to bother with reading chapters 1-3 when I know I won’t be reading chapters 4-9?

  46. It’s hilarious to me that people are assuming this crossover will suck dirt and have decided to not buy PAD’s new book before it’s even out.

    Perspective people. Take a deep breath. Relax. Pick up the book at the Comic Book Store. Look through it. If it interests you, great! Buy it. If not, put it back on the shelf. Sheesh. What a bunch of drama queens!

  47. BBayliss: Name one major Marvel crossover in the last five years that was anything more than “average if you’re being very very generous.”

    And then explain to me why people who dislike JMS and/or Hudlin should assume that they’ll like a crossover where said writers are participating.

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