Bush, in his speech last night, said something I firmly agree with. He said the war in Iraq represents a struggle between two visions, “one of tyranny and murder, the other of liberty and life.”
The true tragedy of the Bush Administration is that he doesn’t realize the rest of the world is increasingly uncertain which one we are. We are an occupying force, mistreating its captives, claiming that we’re restoring control of the nation’s fate to itself while making clear that 130,000 troops are staying right where they are, with more to come if we decide it’s needed.
What’s frightening is that more than 40% of Americans still don’t grasp that.
By the way, check out this link. It’s eerily hypnotic. I think it’d make a great screensaver.
PAD
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Anyone who thinks Saddam Hussein could have moved “massive stockpiles” of WMDs over the border to Syria — a longtime enemy of Iraq — without having those movements picked up by spy satellites and UAV drones is having some serious delusions.
“Anyone who thinks Saddam Hussein could have moved “massive stockpiles” of WMDs over the border to Syria — a longtime enemy of Iraq — without having those movements picked up by spy satellites and UAV drones is having some serious delusions.”
Especially since we supposedly knew the location of several of the hypothetical weapons.
In regards to the abuse our people are using on the Iraqi prisoners, I’ve been speaking to the folks of a soldier who has been to both Afghanistan and Iraq. These kids are told that the prisoners are the ones who killed and maimed their buddies. Regardless of why the prisoners are there, someone told these kids things that would ensure they treat them with as little humanity as possible. Do you truly think that these thoughts are not coming from higher up? I was in the military and until you get to a certain rank you are NOT allowed to make decisions. And even then your orders come from higher up. The soldiers who are being convicted of the abuse are not allowed to decide what actions they take. The military is all about discipline and following orders. Those of you who think this is isolated to a few low ranking people should start thinking like an enlisted person and you’ll know they didn’t do these things without guidance.
“In regards to the abuse our people are using on the Iraqi prisoners, I’ve been speaking to the folks of a soldier who has been to both Afghanistan and Iraq. These kids are told that the prisoners are the ones who killed and maimed their buddies. Regardless of why the prisoners are there, someone told these kids things that would ensure they treat them with as little humanity as possible. Do you truly think that these thoughts are not coming from higher up? I was in the military and until you get to a certain rank you are NOT allowed to make decisions. And even then your orders come from higher up. The soldiers who are being convicted of the abuse are not allowed to decide what actions they take. The military is all about discipline and following orders. Those of you who think this is isolated to a few low ranking people should start thinking like an enlisted person and you’ll know they didn’t do these things without guidance. “
Oh bûllšhìŧ. This is the worst assumption I have seen. There are a million reasons to think these actions were orders form on high, but the assumption that soldiers only ever follow orders is bûllšhìŧ, unless then you’re saying every barfight, raping, awol, and everything else that DOES happen each and every day in this man’s army, and every other major armed force in the world, only happens on orders…
People are people are people. It is very likely that orders came from on high. It’s also likely that people were just being thugs. But ruling out the latter due to “military discipline” is complete and utter bull.
Jerry wrote:
[i]Oh bûllšhìŧ. This is the worst assumption I have seen. There are a million reasons to think these actions were orders form on high, but the assumption that soldiers only ever follow orders is bûllšhìŧ, unless then you’re saying every barfight, raping, awol, and everything else that DOES happen each and every day in this man’s army, and every other major armed force in the world, only happens on orders…[/i]
Interesting examples. None of them seem to cover on-duty behavior, though.
Robert Jung: Anyone who thinks Saddam Hussein could have moved “massive stockpiles” of WMDs over the border to Syria — a longtime enemy of Iraq — without having those movements picked up by spy satellites and UAV drones is having some serious delusions.
Funny you should mention that, considering that two months before the invasion there were reports of increased activity of truck convoys from Iraq into Syria. No, I don’t have a link – this was something I noted at the time. It made very little noise in the press and there hasn’t been more than a handful of mentions since.
“Interesting examples. None of them seem to cover on-duty behavior, though.”
The point is, soldiers regularly do things on duty they weren’t ordered to do. Or are you so naive that you think we have an army full of perfect soldiers, that only ever ever ever follow orders? Cause if so, I own some beautiful ocean resort property here in Oklahoma I’d love to make you a deal of a lifetime on.
“And del, PAD has a lot more credibility than you do.”
I fail to understand how this could be. Is it because Peter is a writer and this is his site that he has more credibility than someone else who posts?
I think Peter is a great writer, but lately his writing has suffered a little bit (in my opinion) and I’m not sure why and this might be why Captain Marvel is cancelled. I wonder if it’s because he spends so much time conversing with us instead of letting his creative juices flow more fluidly.
I don’t agree with your political views but I want you to know that I stuck with you the whole way Peter and wish the series was continuing. :0(
My father was a smart man. When I had a problem as a child I went to my father. Before my father died he told me his secret for being able to find the solution as quickly as he did: “Question everything but accept the answer you get even if it doesn’t come out the way you want it. Most people want to over-complicate things to show how smart they are. Leave it the way it is and look at it. If you see a problem then first say that’s a problem–make excuses for it or try to explain it away after it’s fixed.” To me, none of that was overly complicated–which goes along with his very solution. Without even looking very hard I think most people in the WORLD can see each and every problem we (the WORLD) are facing today. Somebody attacked America–that’s bad. OK, we know who–that’s good. We attacked the wrong people for the initial attack–that’s bad. Now PEOPLE ARE BEING MISTREATED BY US–that’s bad. The person responsible for the first attack is still at large–that’s bad. Gas is stupid expensive–that’s bad. Poor people are struggling now more than ever for simple survival–that’s bad. The world (many countries of which are our friends–all of which are fellow humans) are beginning to look at us like we crawled out from under a rock–that’s bad. The government that is put into place by the most powerfully written document in American history is denying any of the above mentioned obvious problems and telling us that we are not seeing any of them–that’s bad. Our government is the tool used by the people to implement solutions WE find for our problems and not only will they not step forward and admit a problem exists, they are patting themselves on the back for the wonderful job they see themselves as doing and they wonder why we don’t see it.In following that little chart above, simple logic says that the malfunction is a break down in communication between the people and it’s tools. Hey, but how can you mistrust a tool that you (the people) are in-charge of? Hmmm, maybe we are simply using the wrong tool? If that’s the case then it would be obvious that it is time for another tool. I know that a lot of people don’t think the other tool will do the job either but we won’t know until we try. Many of you say,”but what if we try it and it’s too late…now we’re all screwed?”. I believe change will occur. That’s the natural order of things…the only thing constant is that everything changes. If it gets worse WE are the people in control of the tools…we need to stop acting like the election is Russian Roulette. The neat thing about being an American is that if we don’t like something we are supposed to be able to get together in large numbers and change it. If Kerry is elected he may be just the tool (insert tool joke here) we need–or not. I believe that it is obvious Bush isn’t the right tool (great tool joke there) for the job. Try a different one–if Kerry isn’t right then we DEMAND a new choice. Our Constitution says we have that right and just because it hasn’t happened that way before doesn’t mean it can’t happen that way now!
On a side note – doesn’t it seem a little suspicious to anyone else that this election we are hearing more about the right and the left…the republican and democrat…the “holy” and the unjust…the patriotic and sympathizer? It would be a brilliant move to drive the people so far apart that we can’t stand together when we need to. I bet a few of ya’ have heard of divide and conquer.
I know it’s a little long but I’ve been reading and saving up for an educated opinion. It just came in this morning. lol.
Oh, and as for the restarting draft, look up “>http://www.hslda.org/legislation/na…s89/default.asp
It’s been in committee for 14 months. It’s more likely to stay there than it is to be made into law.
Don’t you mean way to go UN Dithering, UN delays, anit- “war” protesters, French posturing.
ALl of those who delayed and delayed what shopuld have happened years ago????????
Thought you did!
Wow. Density of black hole magnitude.
So, lemme get this straight…because the UN failed to do anything about Iraq (lie!), and because people protested the Iraq war (which, oh by the way, happened only after the plans to invade were announced, and couldn’t have happened “years ago”), and because the French are áššëš (which may be the case, but is totally irrelevant), Saddam was able to get huge stockpiles of mostly inert WMD into a country that hates him undetected by his longtime enemy Iran, much less an American intelligence which was bearing down on him?
Help me out on the timing on this…either that means the world was totally inept in tracking terrorists after 9/11 (unlikely), or Saddam got them out sometime before 9/11 (also unlikely, considering that the UN had been on their áššëš the last decade, and the U.S. had bombed them quite a few times before…)
But then again, Saddam did have a nice nine-month grace period to get them out…
Does anyone find the newest terror alert suspicious? I read an article in the Seattle PI today that senior intelligence officials say there is nothing new in the “chatter”. No increase in message traffic by the bad guys. Do you think they may be trying to draw our attention elsewhere?
Bladestar: “And del, PAD has a lot more credibility than you do.”
Novafan: “I fail to understand how this could be. Is it because Peter is a writer and this is his site that he has more credibility than someone else who posts?”
Me: Writer or not, I think it’s because we all know who Peter is. He’s a person. I don’t know del from Adam. He could be you, or me, or Freddy Prinze Jr. Most of us on this board don’t know each other. We’re screen names with opinions attached.
Rob
Funny you should mention that, considering that two months before the invasion there were reports of increased activity of truck convoys from Iraq into Syria. No, I don’t have a link – this was something I noted at the time. It made very little noise in the press and there hasn’t been more than a handful of mentions since.
Given that both CIA and British intelligence couldn’t verify the existence of such convoys (with some analysts doubting their existence), I’m not surprised there was much said.
Of course, then again, this is the CIA we’re talking about…
Gordon Lyons: But I get SO tired of watching people snipe at each other, cleanly falling along party lines.
I tend not to think of Bush as a Republican. I just tend to think of him as a bad, bad man.
Well,AnthonyX, besides being totally snotty towards me, you didn’t really say anything to support your claim that bin Laden is dead or that why Syria getting the alleged WMD is a good thing.
Ok, I’ll start off with a bit of honesty here.. I could not get through all the posts. It’s late, I’m tired and I have heard all the arguments (at least the ones I read) before.
The only reason I am posting a reply is because one thing I did read really bothered me and it deals with the economy and not the war. The opinions of other countries do matter and imapct our economy. That is why for every job we outsource to another country we get at least two imported to the US. Why? Because we have the most stable government in the world and foreign companies realise that it is safer to send jobs to the US than most other countries.
The dollar speaks louder than most everything else in this world. While there may be some jobs lost because they are being shipped overseas and some countries choose not to invest in the US, this is not the rule, they tend to be the exceptions.
Do not take this post as an endorsement of outsourcing jobs to foreign markets, it is not, it is just a statement of a rarly mentioned fact.
Dee, if you are going to make áššhølë statements where you wish an attack on the country if Kerry gets elected and then insult a large portion of the people who posted, the least you could do is not be a pussy and lie to us like this:
“and no: Im not a Repub. I hate both parties just as equal.”
Especially when you follow it up with these little gems:
“You Dems are getting me so pìššëd øff that I pray for another attack. no wait: you’d blame that on W. too.”
“What would you retards do without Bush to bash eh? Im curious to find out.”
Admit that you are a Limbaugh lovin’, FOX News watchin’, Coulter followin’, Bush worshippin’ republican who’d vote for an illiterate, šhìŧ throwing monkey if it were the GOP candidate. Grow a pair and and stand behind your beliefs.
“I think Peter is a great writer, but lately his writing has suffered a little bit (in my opinion) and I’m not sure why and this might be why Captain Marvel is cancelled. I wonder if it’s because he spends so much time conversing with us instead of letting his creative juices flow more fluidly.”
Hey, shut up! You want him to stop posting? I love this board. And I disagree that A-his writing has suffered one iota and B-this board is any sort of real distraction. I suspect it serves a useful purpose, lets him blow off some steam.
Dee– You’re talking like a crazy man. Whenever someone starts saying stuff so over the top I begin to wonder. Are you deliberately trying to make Bush supporters look bad. ‘Cause, you know, you are. Wish for another attack so that Kerry folks will feel bad/ Yee gods, that’s as loony as the kooks who think we deserved 9/11
Out of topic.
I’ve seen Michael Moore’s Bowling for Columbine. Great job. Really great. Looking forward to see Farenheit 11/9.
“I think Peter is a great writer, but lately his writing has suffered a little bit (in my opinion) and I’m not sure why and this might be why Captain Marvel is cancelled. I wonder if it’s because he spends so much time conversing with us instead of letting his creative juices flow more fluidly.”
Right, because lack of promotion, round robin artists, a price increase, and the Marvel PTB not really being interested in supporting a title that’s not a Spider, Mutant, or Ultimate book (or with a movie deal pending) couldn’t have had a thing to do with it.
But if it bothers you that much that I’m talking to fans, NF, then you’re certainly welcome to cease being an enabler.
PAD
” I hope if your anti war hero gets elected that we’ll get hit and hit frigging hard. “
That may well be the single sickest thing I’ve ever seen posted on this board.
PAD
But Mike, two McDonalds counter-person or Wal-Mart drone jobs come nowhere close to 1 Computer Programming or 1 manufacturing job….
You’re writing isn’t suffering PAD, it’s just it’s not coming out fast enough so we have to read other stuff while waiting for your next novel, so we get used to the non-PAD stuff and then when we do get another book from you, we’re just so mired in the non-PADness we just read….
Don’t you have one of those Stephen King word processors that’s let you crank 3 novels everytime you sit on the toilet? 🙂
Hmmm… that last line came out wrong, I enjoy Stephen King’s books, he just used to seem to crank them all out so fast…
Dee,
Obviously, you are entitled to your opinion. However, I can’t believe what you just posted. As anyone who reads this blog knows, I am definitely not a Kerry supporter or a “Lefty”. I support Bush, enjoy Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity, and have been registered Republican all 16 years i have been eligible to vote.
But,
A.) Calling posters who support Kerry “retards” is both childish and offensive. And it is not even accurate. Tim Lynch is a teacher, Karen used to be in the military, and PAD is obviously a very gifted, intelligent person.
You can make your point without insulting people and/or generalizing them
B.)For you to wish an attack on the country, to hope we “get hit and hit hard” and “would love to see” Osama Bin Laden attack the country if kerry were elected, is really depraved thinking.
To wish harm on innocent people….
Part of me wishes you really are just trying to make Bush supporters look bad, because if you really believe what you say, well I just find it beyond sickening.
I hope if your anti war hero gets elected that we’ll get hit and hit frigging hard.
I agree with PAD. I believed after 9/11 that we would get hit again before long, and it hasn’t happened.
But I can’t believe someone would have this twisted a worldview to WANT us to have another 9/11.
The single mindedness of a Dem is frightening.
Well, you’ve proven that an in-the-closet Republican is far worse.
Derek,
I hope you and others realize that Dee’s statements hoping “we get hit and hit frigging hard” if Kerry were elected are NOT the PARTISAN statements of a “Limbaugh lovin’, FOX News watchin’, Coulter followin’, Bush worshippin’ Republican”.
They are simply sick statements, made by someone – if not pulling a fast one – driven by hatred to make insane comments.
Jerome, I think most of us here, regardless of whether we are pro- or anti-Bush, realize that Dee’s statements are over the line and the product of blind hatred.
Mr. David
The Captain Marvel cancellation may be a bit of
a touchy subject to you, but I felt your reply to
Novafan’s post was a bit harsh. NF was a fan who
felt your writing has been a bit subpar of your
normal excellence. The opinion may be completely
wrong, but it seemed to be good intentioned and
honest from the heart “constructive” criticism.
I know the analogy isn’t perfect, but it
reminded me of Ultimate Spiderman where
Peter Parker is asking J Jonah Jameson why the
Daily Bugle was still supporting the mayor
candidate after ties to murder and the kingpin
were revealed. JJ’s answer was to fire Peter.
Thank you for providing this board to let us
converse with you.
Jerome:
I don’t lump any of the conservative poster’s who frequent this place in with Dee and his/her wacked out statements.
“The Captain Marvel cancellation may be a bit of
a touchy subject to you, but I felt your reply to
Novafan’s post was a bit harsh.”
My reply to Novafan’s post was a bit harsh *because* Captain Marvel’s cancellation is a bit of a touchy subject to me. The fact is that of all the reasons for a book’s cancellation, the quality of the writing often has the least impact. Yet for some reason, in my case, it’s often singled out as the main, if not only, reason. In the meantime I try to give generously of my time on this board and that’s held up as a *negative.* So yeah, that bugged me.
PAD
What ever happened to being able to think for one’s self and be able to discuss issues with intelligence. All of us come at issues with our own set of beliefs and worldviews, but that doesn’t mean that we need to put down and insult those who disagree with us. Instead we should be informed about the issues from as many different sources as possible and formulate our own opinions. Wishing harm on any one (AKA “Dee”) is ridiculous and insulting.
By the way, Peter, I have read about 80% of your work and always look forward to more.
Also, thank you Jerome for being a voice of reason and moderation in this blog.
Thanks,
Jack
Robert Jung
Ben Lesat
Marl L
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/4/17/141224.shtml
Jordan’s King Abdullah revealed on Saturday that vehicles reportedly containing chemical weapons and poison gas that were part of a deadly al-Qaida bomb plot came from Syria, the country named by U.S. weapons inspector David Kay last year as a likely repository for Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/01/25/wirq25.xml
David Kay, the former head of the coalition’s hunt for Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, yesterday claimed that part of Saddam Hussein’s secret weapons programme was hidden in Syria.
In an exclusive interview with The Telegraph, Dr Kay, who last week resigned as head of the Iraq Survey Group, said that he had uncovered evidence that unspecified materials had been moved to Syria shortly before last year’s war to overthrow Saddam.
“We are not talking about a large stockpile of weapons,” he said. “But we know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam’s WMD programme. Precisely what went to Syria, and what has happened to it, is a major issue that needs to be resolved.”
Robert Jung
Ben Lesar
Marl L
http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm?include=detail&storyid=670123
Iraqi Weapons in Syria
Post April 26, 2004
By Kenneth R. Timmerman
On Dec. 24, 2002, nearly three months before fighting in Iraq began, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon accused Saddam Hussein’s regime of transferring key materials for his weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programs to Syria in convoys of 18-wheel trucks to hide them from U.N. weapons inspectors. “There is information we are verifying, but we are certain that Iraq has recently moved chemical or biological weapons into Syria,” Sharon told Channel Two television in Israel.
http://billhobbs.com/hobbsonline/003039.html
A Dutch newspaper says some of Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction were moved to Syria – and the Bush administration has a pretty good idea where they are. If you can read Dutch, you can read the full account here. Charles Paul Freund has a summary at the Reason blog.
According to a story Monday in the Dutch newspaper, De Telegraaf, a Syrian journalist identified as “Nizar Najoef” has identified three locations in Syria where Iraqi WMD is hidden. “Nizar Najoef” is more commonly spelled Nizar Nayyouf, and he is a remarkable man. He was a journalist and an activist for liberal reform under Hafez Assad, and as a result spent nine years in prison. … Nayyouf now lives in Europe. … Where does Nayyouf say the WMD is (or was) hidden? In tunnels beneath the town of al-Baida; near the village of Tal Snan; and in “Sjinsjar” (Dutch spelling), a city east of the highway between Hama and Damascus. Nayyouf says he received the information through connections in Syrian intelligence. He believes the U.S. knows all of this, but is biding its time for political reasons. It will act on the information, he told the newspaper, “when the U.S. thinks it’s time to see Assad go.”
So, when are we blowing up Syria?
I mean, the hunt for WMD, whereever they are, however illegitimate the claim, is obviously more important than rebuilding a country, right?
BrakYeller
Den
Re: the late OBL.
It is my opinion based on what I have seen.
Or rather not seen.
Carry on!
AnthonyX
Craig J.
The war in Iraq was fought to prevent other wars from happening.
Please see Libya as Exhibit A.
Yes it is AnthonyX day today!
Craig J!!!
Exhibits B & C:
http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/Swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=4953461
TUNIS (Reuters) – Arab governments, responding to a U.S. campaign for Arab democracy, have promised to carry out political and social reforms in an oil-rich region which includes some of the world’s most repressive rulers.
In documents read out at the end of a two-day Arab summit in Tunis on Sunday, the 22 Arab League members promised to promote democracy, expand popular participation in politics and public affairs, reinforce women’s rights and expand civil society.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1085208928244
Arab leaders meeting in Tunisia Saturday for a summit on political reform and the Arab-Israeli conflict are expected to adopt a resolution condemning attacks against both Israeli and Palestinian civilians.
If the resolution is passed, it will be the first formal condemnation of Palestinian suicide attacks against Israelis in the Arab world.
The war in Iraq was fought to prevent other wars from happening.
Please see Libya as Exhibit A.
Ahh, well, you see, last I checked, nobody really gave a rat’s ášš about Libya. Or had threatened them lately.
Nor have Syria, Iran, N. Korea, and a bunch of other countries given up their WMD since our invading Iraq.
So, I fail to see how it has prevented a war.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/01/25/wirq25.xml
David Kay, the former head of the coalition’s hunt for Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, yesterday claimed that part of Saddam Hussein’s secret weapons programme was hidden in Syria.
In subsequent interviews Kay says thqt there was no conclusive evidence the weapons were in Syria. Also, Secretary of State Powell and National Security Adviser Condoleeza Rice said after the interview in the Telegraph that they did not think any actual weapons were sent to Syria.
A good possibility that these “materials” were notes, research and such.
So again I’ll ask, assuming that the WMD have gone to Libya, what exactly did Operation Fix Daddy’s Mistake do to prevent WMD from falling into the hands of terrorists?
Do we have control of the alleged WMD? No.
Do we have proof that the alleged WMD was destroyed? No.
Is Libya likely to open a garage sale and start hocking the alleged WMD to every terrorist cell on the globe? Yes.
Still waiting on a answer on that, Anthonyx.
Re: Osama’s apparent demise.
So you really have no proof that he’s dead. By your logic, since I haven’t seen Jason Biggs do a movie since American Wedding came out last year, I can assume he’s dead.
“By your logic, since I haven’t seen Jason Biggs do a movie since American Wedding came out last year, I can assume he’s dead.”
Actually, I believe he did a guest shot in the final episode of “Frasier.” So apparently he’s still sucking oxygen.
To the best of my knowledge, bin Laden wasn’t in the episode.
PAD
Well, I didn’t watch the last episode of Frasier, so since I didn’t see him, I’m going to continue assuming that my next breath will include his atomized remains.
So you really have no proof that he’s dead. By your logic, since I haven’t seen Jason Biggs do a movie since American Wedding came out last year, I can assume he’s dead.
Biggs isn’t the best person to do so… he has a couple of commercials out there, and he did make a movie… He was in Jersey Girl and Anything Else…. might be a better person to use is Gillian Anderson or possibly, um Emilio Estevez… both have lackluster careers right now… until X-Files 2 or Mighty Ducks 4, or Young Guns 3: Go Younger (The story of jesse james) comes around…
Travis
I think the original comment was more along the lines that the person just thinks that bin Laden is dead, and is waiting to be proven right.
But then, I can say that the sun is going to go nova. Might have to wait 3 billion years for it to happen, but it will some day.
Either way, it’s quite pointless; we all die anyways, so there’s no sense in trying to act all prophetical about it.
Travis, you’re missing the point. Anthonyx’s logic rests solely on his insistance that since he hasn’t seen bin Laden, bin Laden is dead. It doesn’t matter that others have claimed to be in communication with him. He just wants to believe it, so in his mind, it must be true.
BTW, Bush announced about two months ago that we were stepping up our efforts to find bin Laden. I guess he doesn’t believe bin Laden is atomized either.
Okay lots of points here to cover
Dee:You are either one of the worlds biggest a holes or a juvenile, immature ,person who thinks the world is like what you see in Grand Theft Auto games and Rap videos.To even wish the death and carnage of people to show Kerry supporters up
is cosmically moronic.
Karen:I was and still am in the military(reserves now) .While i do agree that that the people at Abu Gharaib did not act without some knowledge and encouragement from higher up,i dont believe that all military folks do or should blindly follow orders.LAWFUL orders ,yes ALL orders ,no.
I do agree that the recent terror alerts do raise my suspicions as well.Its almost like they
want us looking elsewhere.Besides i just read somwhere that some of these guys were believed to be dead or in custody already.Yes ,I am a conspiracy guy and dont believe everything i see or read .
Jerome :You like Sean Hannity????That hurts me
man,hurts me,But to each his own:)
Once again if anybody gets the chance read Boondocks Huey X rules and provides some very funny commentary on politics.
PAD wrote: “We are an occupying force, mistreating its captives, claiming that we’re restoring control of the nation’s fate to itself while making clear that 130,000 troops are staying right where they are, with more to come if we decide it’s needed. What’s frightening is that more than 40% of Americans still don’t grasp that.”
Actually, what’s frightening is that an intelligent person like you apparently believes we don’t need a large occupying force in Iraq to ensure its stability as the power transition moves forward.
After Germany and Japan were defeated after World War II, did we just whack the dust off our hands, say “OK, that’s done,” and then hop on our ships and come home? Heck, no. We had an obligation to finish what we started, spending $12 billion in the late 1940s (when $12 billion was considered a lot of money) to rebuild Europe and Japan. We must do the same in Iraq.
U.S. troops in Iraq doesn’t mean the scheduled transfer of power will not occur. It certainly was not the case after World War II, and it will not be the case in Iraq after June 30. As you no doubt know, we STILL have troops in Germany and Japan, 61 years later, but no rational person would ever refer to those troops as an “occupying force.”
Russ Maheras
“Right, because lack of promotion, round robin artists, a price increase, and the Marvel PTB not really being interested in supporting a title that’s not a Spider, Mutant, or Ultimate book (or with a movie deal pending) couldn’t have had a thing to do with it.
But if it bothers you that much that I’m talking to fans, NF, then you’re certainly welcome to cease being an enabler.
My reply to Novafan’s post was a bit harsh *because* Captain Marvel’s cancellation is a bit of a touchy subject to me. The fact is that of all the reasons for a book’s cancellation, the quality of the writing often has the least impact. Yet for some reason, in my case, it’s often singled out as the main, if not only, reason. In the meantime I try to give generously of my time on this board and that’s held up as a *negative.* So yeah, that bugged me.”
I appoligize if I offended you, it wasn’t my intent.
I didn’t say that there weren’t other factors contributing to the cancellation. Of the ones you mentioned, the fans are only privy to the price increase which was BS and the rotating artists which wasn’t that bad in my opinion. The competition between you and Joe might not have been the promotion you were looking for, but it sparked my interest and probably others.
The last 20 issues or so were decent reads, but not your best work by a long shot. This is just an observation of a fan of your writing.
I do like the fact that you provide this message board and post quite often. It does bother me that you show such negativity towards the President in a lot of your posts. Since you are the initiator of the messages, I would hope that you would try to show a little of an unbiased viewpoint and try to get good discussions going. What ends up happening is that people read your initial message posts, get mad if they are attacking something or someone they believe in, and then the flame wars start up.
I don’t think this is what you want to do is it? If that’s your intent, then maybe I should cease “being an enabler” as you put it.
Actually, what’s frightening is that an intelligent person like you apparently believes we don’t need a large occupying force in Iraq to ensure its stability as the power transition moves forward.
Russ, gotta agree with you. I think part of the problem is that Rumsfeld believes you can make do with a small force, too. But you need all those military bodies in there for security, policing (because you either can;t trust the locals that much or made the decision not to), and so forth while at the same time trying to seal borders, hunt for terrorists, etc.
Didn’t agree with the decision to invade, but if you decide to invade, you dámņ well better do it right.