Dear Guys:
As a God-fearing American patriot, I absolutely insist that ABC refuse to air “The Jessica Lynch Story” as it currently plans to do on November 11. Although I haven’t seen it and don’t know what I’m talking about, I can say with confidence that it is wildly inaccurate, insulting, and upsetting to families who have lost loved ones in Iraq, and have loved ones over there continuing to fight the war that ended last May.
The recent interviews with Jessica Lynch have underscored the fact that the US Government cynically and ruthlessly manipulated the facts of both her capture and subsequent rescue. She was built up to be a Rambo-esque hero when others actually did the fighting and dying. And the details of her “rescue” are similarly overblown. To single her out purely to give Americans a heroine in order to bolster support for Iraq is a travesty, and ABC is aiding and abetting in this government-based fraud…a fraud seized upon and perpetuated by the noted conservative media that has fallen in line behind the White House since the war began.
I do not believe for one moment–and I know my conservative friends, if I had any, would back me up on this–that the viewing public should be able to make up their own minds on this topic. I know what’s best. They don’t. And what’s best is that this PR scandal be terminated before it is allowed to air.
Instead, I recommend that ABC air a repeat of “Almost Golden: The Jessica Savitch Story,” the docudrama in which America’s first anchorwoman is portrayed as an alcoholic cokehead, which was no doubt most upsetting to her family, but they were probably liberals, so who gives a dámņ? The important thing is, it’s a biopic about a woman named Jessica, so it’s close enough. Failing that, you could run “Up Close and Personal,” which also tells the story of Jessica Savitch, but is a romantic comedy and nicely whitewashes all tragedy from her life.
Either way, I insist that you pull the Jessica Lynch biopic immediately. Until you do, I shall boycott the letters A, B and C, starting right now.
Sinerely,
Peter Dvid
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Hmm, Looking forward to the next issue of Ptin Mrvel.
I just feel bad for the poor girl. Even if she was just unlucky enough to be in a glorified car accident, I think she’s being swept away in the tides off all the bûllšhìŧ. She’s either going to end up Diefied or Hated, and neither is really that great of an option.
Here is a link by Toronto Star reporter Mitch Potter who revealed months ago what is only being revealed now regarding Jessica Lynch.
http://www.thewe.cc/contents/more/archive/may2003/jessica_lynch.htm
BTW anybody else find this amnesia quite convenient. And before anybody gets upset that I’m slagging her please know that I am truly saddened by her experience and very pleased that she is home safe.
1 more point… how come she is getting all the attention when another female US soldier was taken prisoner, her very frightened face still haunts me today, and has been quickly forgotten. Surely it is not because this forgotten person is black and Jessica is white and blonde?
Posted by Q: “I just feel bad for the poor girl. Even if she was just unlucky enough to be in a glorified car accident, I think she’s being swept away in the tides off all the bûllšhìŧ. She’s either going to end up Diefied or Hated, and neither is really that great of an option.”
I agree with you. I really don’t have an opinion one way or another concerning the Jessica Lynch story. I sortof understand the whole “She got hurt – how does this maker her a hero?” But I also agree that she did put her life on the line in Iraq, and nearly paid the price.
I don’t have much of an opinion on this – rather than, as Q pointed out, she’s in an uncontroled media blur – and she doesn’t deserve to have her life be labled by this one incident. She survived Iraq, only to be killed by the Media
Jessica Lynch; everyones favorite made up hero. She never actually fought any battles. She has no real deeds of note. She hasn’t had a lifetime of interesting tales. So what is it about her?
Well right off the bat she is America. Not the evil, imperialistic America that many parts of the world believe in. Rather the America everyone wants to see and believe. I’m talking about that pure, idealistic, progressive and by all means good America that you really only find in movies and in the minds of super patriots.
That’s what Jessica is made to be. She comes to Iraq to help make a difference. And in the process is wounded and separated from her comrades. But through the actions of the valiant soldiers of the United States she is rescued from the enemy.
This is the stuff of legends people. This is a great hero of days gone by. That is, if the facts don’t keep getting in the way.
I have no really problem with her. She did her job and suffered some for it. The PR job on the other hand I have to look at with disgust. It’s so blatant you have to wonder what there is to gain from all this. A year from now the name Jessica Lynch will be mostly forgotten. Maybe five or ten years down the line there will be a retrospective piece here and there asking ‘Whatever happened to Jessica Lynch?’. And everyone will tune in to see what she’s been up to. And then go on with life.
By “don’t know what I’m talking about”, do you mean that you’ve read the script and found inaccuracies and fabrications therein?
By “don’t know what I’m talking about”, do you mean that you’ve read the script and found inaccuracies and fabrications therein?
Posted by David @ 11/09/2003 02:00 AM
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I think he was just mocking all of the people who were against the now ‘cancelled’ Ronald Regan mini-series, many of whom were against the show without ever having seen any part of it, or read the script.
What gets me about the whole media circus is two things: This story is only a few months old, and already there is a Movie of the Week about it? And as someone else mentioned, there were others taken prisoner with her as well, but only she seems to be getting all the attention.
I think Jessica Lynch should have played Elizabeth Smart in that TV movie. Then Elizabeth Smart could play Jessica Lynch.
^ But most of the news stories I’ve read about the protests include what they claim are direct quotes from the movie and scene descriptions. These people certainly do know what they’re talking about, unless they’re lying about the lines from the movie. But if that were the case, CBS could easily counter their arguments by saying that no such scenes exist.
Realizing that Peter is pretending to act like the Reagan movie protestors, I’m just wondering if Peter’s phrase “don’t know what I’m talking about” means that he has seen the script for the Jessica Lynch movie, or if maybe, unlike the Reagan movie protestors, he actually doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Your wish is granted Peter. ABC will NOT air the Jessica Lynch movie. We (yes, I am a ABC employee) will air a special edition of Primetime, Tuesday night with an interview with the actual Jessica Lynch.
NBC is doing the movie.
They always were.
Fact check anyone?
No “biopic” should ever be made knowing that facts are wrong.
The GOP didn’t want Regan to say ( if I remember correctly) he wanted enemy civilians dead and that they deserved to die. That’s their big gripe. I agree. Imagine the clintom movie wher he was glad the asprin factory was bombed and that he was glad they died. I’d rally against that one too.
Heck, even the advertising for the Jessica Lynch movie is flat out weirdly inaccurate. Heard an ad that went something “She was a woman with a bright future ahead of her.”. Um, from what I recall reading about her, she was from one of the poorer parts of West Virginia, couldn’t afford to go to college, and thus joined the Army as about her only option to get out of there and maybe manage to swing college. Now, I could be wrong (and would be glad for her if I am), but somehow I don’t see greatness in her future; just at best your standard potential to have a fairly typical middle class life.
Would it be overly crude if I said I don’t give a flying f*** about Jessica Lynch or her ordeal at this point?
The first time I saw that dámņëd ad for the movie, I was literally enraged. We’re talking seriously pìššëd øff here, folks. The thought that there is a group of people out there who have the incredible nerve to make a MOVIE about some bìŧçh whose ever-so-important supply truck full of extra sporks managed to take a wrong turn sickens me. The American flag waving in slow motion makes me want to burn down the homes of the idiots associated with this film.
Lynch is a nice person, I’m sure. But she is by no means a hero. Are you aware that early on, some citizens were suggesting that she be awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor?
I’ll leave you with that thought, folks.
Ha! Thank you, Peter, for my biggest laugh of the day (at least). “The important thing is, it’s a biopic about a woman named Jessica, so it’s close enough …. Until you do, I shall boycott the letters A, B, and C, starting right now.” Ha! (And check out the signature – true to your word – missed that on first glance.) Heh.
I do believe that PAD is joking in light of all the news reports about CBS cancelling the Ronald Regan movie. Showtime will air it though. A made for TV movie innacurate?
NO! Never in a MILLION years! Something about entertainment and not an American history book…oh wait..not a good example either!
[/sarcasm]
Brilliant
I had zero interest in watching that Reagan biopic. Now I feel like mainlining it. Good thing I have a couple of friends who get Showtime. But I’m starting to get the shakes, it better come on soon…
Sound effects: my rapid gasping, my chair vibrating, my hands grab the throats of the jerks who canceled the Reagan show and start shaking them like a wolf shaking a rag doll until their beady little eyes pop out (shame to let this shaking go to waste).
Jeff: Your wish is granted Peter. ABC will NOT air the Jessica Lynch movie. We (yes, I am a ABC employee) will air a special edition of Primetime, Tuesday night with an interview with the actual Jessica Lynch.
NBC is doing the movie.
They always were.
Fact check anyone?
Just so we’re all on the same page here… Tuesday, Nov. 11, Pvt. Lynch is going to be on “PrimeTime,” interviewed by Diane Sawyer. In said interview, titled “The Jessica Lynch Story” (to tie-in with the subtitle of her soon to be released book), Lynch is supposed to be speaking out about the inaccuracies surrounding the story of her rescue.
That’s a cogent point, because NBC will air [please note differences in title] “Saving Jessica Lynch” tonight (Nov. 9) at 9pm. It’s something of a win for ABC to have the very subject of the biopic debunk NBC’s movie two days later. I should know… I work in advertising at an NBC affiliate, and the potential damage of ABC’s ‘scoop’ has been watercooler conversation for us all week.
Far be it for me to put words in Mr. Dvid’s mouth, but I believe his above post is, in fact, a sarcastic “in the style of” diatribe, meant to mock those who support the yanking of CBS’s Reagan biopic. Given that Pvt. Lynch is expected to make remarks about how the conservative element has been blowing her story out of purportion, Mr. Dvid is, I believe, mocking what the conservative response to the “PrimeTime” interview would be… that is, if they could make such demands without looking like they were trying to muzzle her. Which, fortunately, they can’t.
Honestly, take a look at the original post. Substitute everything Lynch-related with an equivalent from arguments against the Reagan biopic, and it’s practically a form letter.
For what it’s worth, as an employee of an NBC affiliate, I hope a lot of people watch “Saving Jessica Lynch.” As an individual, I hope you all enjoy laughing your @$$es off at the factual errors, over-the-top staging, and marketing peg that blatantly rips off Speilberg’s brilliant ode to military veterans “Saving Private Ryan.” Even better, watch BOTH programs… then you can get both sides and make up your mind for yourself, like you ought to be doing anyway.
The OTHER John Byrne
Sorry for the double post, but the line should have read “blowing her story out of PROportion.”
You know what we really need on the site, Glenn? A spellchecker! 🙂
tOjb
I remember watching on Australian TV several months ago, first the big rescue, then a few weeks later, interviews with the people at the hospital insisting, among other things, they took good care of her given their medical supplies, how they tried to return her to the U.S military, and that there weren’t any Iraqi soldiers in the hospital when the rescuers busted in. Obviously, the U.S military deny these allegations.
I won’t speculate on who’s telling the truth and who’s lying, but there’s something I’m interested in knowing. I believe Jessica Lynch was honourably discharged, right? Does this mean she’s now allowed to tell the truth without being trapped by whatever oaths or laws the army would have imposed? And what are the chances of this happening? After all, I’m sure she’s eternally grateful to her rescuers, and for all we know the military cut a deal with her or something. Yeah, I’m speculating wildly regarding a person’s character, and I mean no offense. It’s just a question that’s bothering me.
Lets not even mention the possibility of a TV recounting of former POW Shoshana Johnson’s ordeal cos it might stir up debate of a double standard or sumptin.
Yeah, I knew NBC was airing the movie while ABC was airing the interview. But there’s no NB or C in my name and I wanted the signature gag. That’s why I wrote “I don’t know what I’m talking about.” Maybe irony really is dead.’
PAD
Yeah, I knew NBC was airing the movie while ABC was airing the interview. But there’s no NB or C in my name and I wanted the signature gag. That’s why I wrote “I don’t know what I’m talking about.” Maybe irony really is dead.’
No N in your name? What, pray tell, does the A in PAD stand for?
Allen is my guess. *shrugs*
Either that, or Alfred.
…please igore my guess of “allen”. I appear to be a complete and total moron, incapable of realizing at the time that the letter “N” ends the name “Allen”.
What a story! What an inspiration for all young Americans! What an example to put before the other nations of the world!
She’s the perfect American! She’s young, blonde, female, and good looking! How better to show the rest of the world how great America is!
(Said with all due respect to Jessica Lynch. She is becoming a victim of this immoral, illegal war a second time.)
The last great rescue movies I’ve seen were Saving Private Ryan and Black Hawk Down. Any overly hyped-up hero/rescue movie hollywood produces now will seem like a joke.
“…immorall, illegal war…”
*snorts laughter*
Peter, I am in complete agreement with you on the Jessica Lynch movie. Is there a boycott site I can add my name too?
You are quite wrong in your sweeping condemnation of conservatives. I am a conservative. I routinely avoid biopics, preferring A&E’s Biography series if I am interested.
It is long overdue that both conservatives and liberals boycott “fictionalized” biopics of Mr and Mrs JFK, Reagan, Jessica Lynch and others. The fact that Hollywood has gotten away with it before does not mean we cannot step up and draw a line in the sand. Just because Hollywood has slandered others does not mean that we have to take it forever. I think that liberals and conservatives should join ranks and boycott all of these biopics. The radical left in Hollywood does not know the difference between truth and lies. Maybe together we can train them as if they were dogs by hitting them in the wallets.
The founding fathers trusted that half-wits who use their right of free speech to tell lies would be shunned by society. Modern Americans have not held up their end of that deal. It is time we all got together and started shunning.
Not a huge fan of this whole war, but I would say that (in spirit)Jessica Lynch would be the same kind of hero as anyone who is willing to put her life on the line for a cause she believes in.
Just not the kind of ‘over-the-top/sanctify her in a whole Princess Diana way’ hero that networks and film-makers think will get ratings.
WE’ve usually been able to tell and accept the differences between fiction and fact. However in ‘interesting times’ it seems what we believe, would like to believe, told to believe and are expected to believe get awfully and convininently confused.
John Mosby
Maybe this is a trivial point, but was anyone else particularly nauseated by that music chosen for the commerical for the movie, in which the singer (sounds like a really bad Tom Jones imitator) sings something like, “You life me up…” or something like that? Wasn’t that piece really saccharin? I feel like I’m gonna get diabetes everytime I hear it.
If Hollywood made a movie of your (PAD’s) life written by John Byrne and produced by Todd McFarlane and there were reports on CNN, AP and Reuters that the show contained some of the more spectacular lies about you, how would you feel about it. Would you be saying that everyone should watch it and make up their own minds? Would you be saying that just because multiple people associated with the production have confirmed that lies were in the movie, would you be saying that you don’t know enough about the movie to make your mind up?
Would you be encouraging your friends, family and fans to watch it and give it a fair viewing? That it’s OK that Todd and John make a buck off of trashing your name and reputation?
Ann Coulter is a funny, informed author (and dynamite on TV), but her use of hyperbole and sarcasm is too over the top to convince me that she is anything remotely approaching fair and balanced.
Am I going to have to treat your opinion in the same low regard I have for her’s? I will still watch her on TV though, but not for her opinion.
Peter, if liberals are so spineless as to not object when Hollywood trashes liberal leaders, don’t you think they should grow a backbone and object?
Peter,
Are you ever frustrated at the way the media protrays Israel and its plight???
That my friend is bias.
AS an extreme centrist I don’t like bias. I call it as I see it.
The Reagan flick and the MANY excerpts from it was very bias and from all reports just down right bad.
You also conveniently forget or refuse to acknowledge the grass-roots movement, petitions etc thjat also led to the Reagan film being moved to Showtime.
Thank you
Lynch is (having a ghostwriten) book telling her story. It’s purely in her best interest to say, “Everyone else is wrong. read my book for the truth.” And you can, in hardback, for $24.95 a pop!
I believe this movie is based on the Iraqi Doctor’s story. She doesn’t want him cashing in on her territory!
Lynch is peomoting herself the same way the RNC (nothing but a public relations firm)promoted Reagan’s image–and won against CBS. In all likelihood, the Lynch movie will be a hit and her book will be a bestseller.
No N in your name? What, pray tell, does the A in PAD stand for?
Since I never sign my name “Peter Allen David,” writing “Peter Alle David” would’ve just looked strange rather than funny.
If Hollywood made a movie of your (PAD’s) life written by John Byrne and produced by Todd McFarlane and there were reports on CNN, AP and Reuters that the show contained some of the more spectacular lies about you, how would you feel about it.
Well, I’d probably do the same as I did when Comics Journal published lies about me: Do what I could to make sure the truth gets out there. I’d likely also consult a lawyer to see if I have a libel case. The answer to speech you don’t like is always more free speech, and the legal remedies available when that speech is abused. It is not, however, and never is, prior restraint. Which is something that advocates of this abominable behavior don’t get.
The hilarious thing is that the censors are acting, as always, as if they’re seizing a moral high ground. No. Anyone who unilaterally decides that I shouldn’t be allowed to watch something they personally find upsetting automatically forfeits the high ground.
I’ve no doubt there was a grass roots movement. That earns a resounding “So what?” from me. It still boils down to the same thing: Conservatives didn’t want to see their sacred cow shown in anything less than a flattering light. And CBS knuckled under, and I guarantee the pressure will continue on Showtime now to try and whitewash it.
You are quite wrong in your sweeping condemnation of conservatives.
What sweeping condemnation? In the gag letter, I wrote that I was certain conservatives would back me up in stating that such a film should never be aired.
It is long overdue that both conservatives and liberals boycott “fictionalized” biopics of Mr and Mrs JFK, Reagan, Jessica Lynch and others.
I have no trouble with people choosing to not watch a TV show. Unfortunately, others have trouble with me *wanting* to watch a TV show. You *do* see the problem, right?
The fact that Hollywood has gotten away with it before does not mean we cannot step up and draw a line in the sand.
Okay, I guess you don’t.
Just because Hollywood has slandered others does not mean that we have to take it forever.
And you bring up an interesting point: If the Reagan biopic is slander, then let the GOP braintrust prove it the way a society valuing free speech allows it to: In court.
I don’t see a single pundit suggesting that the producers of the film and CBS be sued. Yes, Reagan’s a public figure, which makes it tougher. But it’s not impossible, and if the lies are as egregious as claimed, it should be worth pursuing. Let’s see if their claims meet the legal standards. Let them prove reckless disregard of the truth. Let them prove malice aforethought.
Or is it that they’re concerned that the alleged depiction of Ronald Reagan as a bewildered, homophobic fraud might turn out to be protected by the ultimate defense against slander: Truth.
PAD
Hey Peter,
If you were serious and could organize yourself with others then I guess I’d say, “more power to you”.
The GOP is organized in a way that liberals can only have wet dreams about.
If only liberals were able to get their hands on scripts and stop or edit shows they don’t like…oh wait!..the group G.L.A.D gives its stamp of approval or not for any network show’s script involving a Gay character. If a writer wants to portray a homosexual in a way that GLAD finds unfair then the network makes changes.
You know, this is getting stupid now. The movie will be shown unedited on Showtime, although seen by a smaller audience, so nothing was (dun! Dun! Daah!) CENSORED.
Peter, the next time you feel that an organized GOP is getting their way, rally your liberal buddies and be a little louder. Maybe the networks will listen to you next time. Oh, but of course liberals would never do that and have much better things to do…like complain about it on their blogs.
This whole Jessica Lynch story reminds me of nothing so much as the “Timmy O’Toole” episode of the Simpsons. There’s an exchange there that goes like this:
“Homer: That Timmy is a real hero!
Lisa: How do you mean, Dad?
Homer: Well, he fell down a well, and… he can’t get out.
Lisa: How does that make him a hero?
Homer: Well, that’s more than you did!”
You know, this is getting stupid now. The movie will be shown unedited on Showtime, although seen by a smaller audience, so nothing was (dun! Dun! Daah!) CENSORED.
Hush, you, you with your logic-making and sense of proportion!
Just occurred to me–the Iraqi was a lawyer, not a sawbones.
Carry on, wayward souls.
When are Speilberg and the people behind Black Hawk Down going to sue for infringing upon likenesses of title and scope for this NBC movie?
Interestingly here is what Patty Reagan has to say about the movie “The Reagans”
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,536971,00.html
Darn…didn’t put the whole link in blue. Just copy and paste in your browser and it should work.
Jason J.
James T. wrote:
>>Peter, the next time you feel that an organized GOP is getting their way, rally your liberal buddies and be a little louder. Maybe the networks will listen to you next time. Oh, but of course liberals would never do that and have much better things to do…like complain about it on their blogs. <<
You do realize that you’re essentially saing “Shut up and be a little louder,” don’t you? Yeah, that’s a workable plan.
Rob
I’ve been reading the article by Patti Reagen and I have to say that the ‘Reagen’ movie just sounds stupid.
From everything she’s saying, the writers did not research anything and just basically threw a movie together about the Reagens.
Which is so stupid. IF your going to write a movie about historical events & people, you SHOULD research it.
IF everything she says is true (which it prob is), then this movie should NOT be shown. CBS and Showtime should be ashamed if all of this is true.
I’d expect something like this out of FOX or one of the premiums or UPN.
But not CBS or Showtime.
I admit I don’t know all the history behind the Reagans..but I’m just saying..if everything Patti is saying is true…then it shouldn’t be shown. In fact, the Reagans SHOULD sue CBS/Showtime/etc for slander. Because thats what this movie is sounding like.
DF2506
” To take dramatic license with historical events is one thing, but to completly MAKE UP events is another.”
No, I’m not telling him to “shut up” at all.
My point is that perhaps the liberals should be a little more organized and counter things like this if they hate it so much. However liberals, in general, tend to do nothing but bìŧçh and moan about things and never get anything done.
Excellent responses. Sorry, my misreading lead to the “blanket condemnation of conservatives” line.
In the “debate” about the Reagan movie: I don’t feel that a boycott by people who feel that the movie is wrong amounts to censorship. I look at it as “voting with my dollars”. This is the same logic I used when I bought Captain Marvel and passed up Marville, even though I was basing this purchasing decision based on the on-line discussions. Since I had never purchased Marville, I could not vouch for the authenticity of the the debate, yet I passed it up because I felt I was supporting an honorable position and discouraging a dishonorable one. Now you say that decisions made like that are made in ignorance.
With a comic book, I can boycott something (like crossovers and multiple covers) by not buying them. I tell all my friends (both real and imaginary) why I am doing it. With TV, the only way I can vote with my money is not only to not watch. I also feel it is important let the purveyors know why I am not watching. This is not censorship or prior restraint.
There is no prior restraint here. That movie may be going to Showtime and show there but I guarantee you that in a few years that movie will make its way back to broadcast TV. It cannot be unmade. The common perception of history cannot be unpolluted. Much of the conservative outrage is that the savaging is being done on a man in no condition to defend himself and his wife and caregiver. I’m not saying that their profiteering on the corpse of JFK is any better, I feel that both are reprehensible. They both erode culture and the public’s view of history (since the vast majority do not read).
Since the movie is made and will see daylight someday, I don’t feel that anything is censored or there is prior restraint. All I want to do is personally not give the advertisers who support this and the network that did it any of my money. I feel that the prior restraint claim (in which I am certainly not an expert) would only be valid if storm troopers took the CBS offices, burned the prints and arrested the participants. Maybe you could elaborate on “prior restraint”?
To my knowledge the head of the RNC asked that either the movie adhere to facts or that they should at least tell people that it is fictionalized. Every ten minutes seems excessive, but is this censorship? Somebody got a website and had a petition to object and organize a boycott. I don’t think that this is censorship either. I feel that it is just “voting with our dollars”.
Your comment about fighting back with the facts is commendable. I don’t think that Ronald Reagan is currently in that position. I feel that people (like his kids and co-workers) have stepped up to defend him since he can’t.
I can’t atone for all of the trashy and semi-trashy JFK movies that I was silent about. JFK was before my time. But I remember the 80s. What they are putting into this movie is Angry Left’s imaginings (as attested by the writer who said that the things being objected to were made up with no factual basis).
What is scary is that your “gag letter” is pretty close to how I feel. SOMEBODY (not the government) should organize boycotts of the “slime from the video”. I’m not saying that Hollywood should be PREVENTED from making it or showing it. I just don’t want them making it with MY money.
From everything she’s saying, the writers did not research anything and just basically threw a movie together about the Reagens.
Yeah, exactly. I mean, if Hollywood does a movie that deals with the Catholic Church they at least hire a church official to answer any questions they might have.
The makers of this movie did not consult any member of the Reagan family nor did they take any steps to ensure validity. Granted, this is not a crime but just shows how much they went out of their way to portray this family the way THEY see them.
This movie is a product. Just like if McDonalds said they were going to make all their McNuggets out of cats starting in January people would protest their product. Without having even tasted the McNugget people would boycott, write letters, and threaten to no longer do business with McDonalds or any company they are associated with. McDonald’s, if they were smart, would bow to the pressure and reconsider.
CBS is in the business of selling its product. People promised to boycott, wrote letters, and threatend to no longer do business with their sponsors. CBS is just doing good business. Ah, capitalism!
My point is that perhaps the liberals should be a little more organized and counter things like this if they hate it so much.
Yes, that was called “the Civil Rights movement.”
Of more recent vintage, it’s starting to happen again. What do you think the flood of liberal-slanted books hitting the stores is right now but a countermeasure and response to the barrage of “liberals and the Clintons are responsible for everything that’s wrong” that has been pouring through every outlet in the supposedly liberal media.
Liberals became self-satisfied and arrogant, certain the country would never swing to the right because, y’know, who in their right mind would want to *give up* rights? They paid the price as the country put the GOP in charge and now everything from free speech to right to trial to protections against search and seizure to a woman’s right to choose is under fire.
And the GOP, learning *nothing* from history, have allowed themselves to become nastier and even more arrogant than liberals. It hasn’t occurred to them that, in time, they will in turn pay the same price.
Just a matter of time.
PAD
I admit I don’t know all the history behind the Reagans..but I’m just saying..if everything Patti is saying is true…then it shouldn’t be shown
Yes, but…that’s the point. What if it’s not true? What if the producers, who claim to have sources for every single scene in the movie, are speaking the truth? What if Leslie Moonves, back in July, spoke the truth when he said the film was balanced?
Ideally, you should get to decide for yourself.
But you don’t. Because other people don’t trust you to, so they decided for you.
Why you–why ANYONE–would be cool with that is a mystery.
PAD
“If only liberals were able to get their hands on scripts and stop or edit shows they don’t like…oh wait!..the group G.L.A.D gives its stamp of approval or not for any network show’s script involving a Gay character. If a writer wants to portray a homosexual in a way that GLAD finds unfair then the network makes changes”
But PAD said that liberals would never do the sort of censoring that conservatives do…are you saying he’s wrong?
In fact, are you not impugning his very truthfullness with this questioning of his statement? And is this not just one small step away from questioning his patriotism? Well, Mr Man, I’m not gonna just stand here while some guy calls Peter Allen David a traitor! That’s McCarthyism–McCarthyism I tells ya!
Ok, maybe I got carried away. I’ll extend my hand in friendship and we can shake on it. But what if you don’t shake it? What if you slap my hand away? A fine thing! I offer my hand in friendship and you slap it away! You conservatives make me sick. Sick people can die. That’s what you want, isn’t it–for all who oppose you to die.
Wesley Clark for President. People live in my salt shaker. Sheep run North, Sir.