Let’s put Trump’s run in perspective

Posted By: Peter DavidPosted On:

Trump is currently polling at something like twenty-four to twenty-six percent. That means that three quarters of Republicans don’t want any part of him. As various GOP candidates drop out, the voters will head toward other politicians. And I am reasonably sure that those remaining seventy-five percent are not insane, so they will probably gravitate toward Jeb Bush.

There is no way that Trump will be the GOP nominee. None. His entire candidacy is media driven BS.

PAD

24 comments on “Let’s put Trump’s run in perspective”

  1. You’re absolutely correct, but it makes for good entertainment. I’m not sure how he would fare on our economic issues, other than more tax breaks for the wealthy. In Foreign Affairs, having such a jackals attitude in the White House would wreck any allegiances we have left.

  2. Some have said that Trump probably wouldn’t allow his image to be at risk by subjecting himself to a single vote, and drop out before the Iowa Caucuses (a long way off).

    He even parlay this into a reality TV show.Though given how many bridges he’s been burning with the media (even Fox News itself), who’d carry it?

  3. Trump won’t be the candidate, but if Bush III is, then the party and its voters is still completely insane.

  6. The only thing that’s a bigger joke than Trump’s run is Trump’s supporters. He spews racist crap, he goes up in the GOP polls. He and his crew get misogynistic, he stays steady or even goes up slightly. I mean, dámņ… What does it say about the party (and the large number of Tea Party types in the party who are calling him the country’s great hope) and their candidates right now when Trump is the clear favorite in polling based on a campaign of pandering to the lowest of the low?

    I figured he’d do this run as a joke and drop out by late September, laughing at the ignorant rubes that played his ego game. Now I’m not sure how far he’ll keep going.

    1. What’s amusing is for the Trumpamaniacs, if any politician they didn’t like acted this way, they’d consider them a whiny, thin-skinned áššhølë. And with all the time he spends on Twitter responding to any slight, how would President Trump get any work done?

      1. So, once again in Crim-world, a GOPer is incapable of being nasty or bad, it’s gotta be the fault of some dastardly Democrat (twirling a mustache naturally). Party of personal responsibility, my —.

      2. I make no excuses for the people supporting him (clearly the Clintons have nothing to do with that). And, it’s also certain (just from the mathematics) that if Trump be the nominee, the party will lose — period.

        It has been pointed out that Trump joined the race after discussing the matter with Bill Clinton. We don’t know what was said, but it is a fact that Trump won’t acquiesce to the idea of supporting the nominee if it isn’t himself.

        Would Hillary’s chances be better if Bernie Sanders took the same position (technically, he’s not even a Democrat, and there certainly are as many fruit cakes on the far left)?

  7. Joke, Jerry? I don’t think he has that good a sense of humor! It is all pure hubris… Entertaining hubris, but still just hubris!

    And why are we putting up with it? Because it’s FUN! if a survey call me up, “Why SURE I support The Donald! Doesn’t everyone!!!!?” You see, conservatives DO have a sense of humor! Also, because all this media attention is helping the rest of the field get their messages across.

    1. Sorry, but, no. I work around too many Tea Party types; both coworkers and actual Virginia Tea Party members. They love Trump, and when Kelly make him look stupid, they spent most of the next day calling her a bimbo, a bìŧçh, and a çûņŧ or calling her debate night performance her “audition for CNN of MSNBC.”

      To hear them talk, Trump is the ultimate answer. He’s a businessman, not a career politician. He’s the change we need, and it’s change we won’t get with another career politician. They’re not playing with the pollsters, they’re dedicated Trump lovers.

  9. I don’t think Bush has much of a shot. He has raised a lot of money but so have others. His support seems soft. He has not really impressed on the stuck, sounding like he’s running more out of duty than of any great passion.

    1. I hope with all I have that you are right Bill, but I have this sick feeling that its going to be Bush/Clinton with Trumpster doing the independent thing.

  10. So far as I can tell, virtually the entire field is media-driven BS at this point — nobody, Jeb included, strikes me as anyone I’d want in the White House, even on a tour.

    Actually, I take that back. John Kasich appears to have some potential sanity, but given that his support within the GOP appears to be within the margin of error of *mine*, I’m not expecting anything to come of that.

    Does anyone find any of the others sane and reasonable? Honestly?

    1. Loved Ben Carson’s response to Hillary on abortion.

      My concern with the doctor is that he has no experience working for the federal government — I have more than he does (Census 2000 and 2010).

      But, he is an intelligent, careful, and moral man — as most neurosurgeons are.

  12. I am less certain that Bush will be the nominee. I am hardly a conservative but I find myself sympathizing with those who argue, “Why go with another moderate for whom the base is ambivalent? We tried it twice and lost both times.”

    That doesn’t mean it’ll be Trump, but I do think there are other candidates polling as well as Bush who would do well with the conservative base.

  13. My big worry is that we will see a repeat of the last couple of primary cycles where we have several interesting candidates (Trump, Paul, Walker, Rubio…) that are strong at the beginning, but then, halfway through, the ‘candidate’ suddenly becomes the worst possible moderate. It is like the kingmakers have been just stringing us along, getting our hopes up, and then just pull the run out from under us…

  15. Peter

    I agree with your larger point about Trump’s long-term prospects, but I will toss in a couple of points that at least have me wondering:

    1. Your initial analysis seems to assume that Trump is nobody’s second choice. I think that may not be true. Also, while everyone knows who Trump is (so high recognition), very few people have a sense of who he is as a politician (i.e., his claimed positions and agenda, beyond the eye-catching immigrant deportation and denigration piece).

    2. The first polls after the first debate, below Trump (whose numbers did not move) showed upward movement by the next most crazy candidates (Cruz, Carson, Huckabee) and declines by the “moderates” (Bush, Walker). So even if Trump falls short, his effect on the campaign and the positioning of other candidates might mean that front-runner status will pass to other crazies before (or instead of) going to Bush, Walker or Rubio. Not saying it will happen, not saying it excuses the brain-dead media and pundit treatment of all this, just saying I consider the future far less clear than it was at this point four years ago.

    John Hall

    1. “The first polls after the first debate, below Trump (whose numbers did not move) showed upward movement by the next most crazy candidates (Cruz, Carson, Huckabee) and declines by the “moderates” (Bush, Walker).”

      Welcome to the modern active base for the Republican party. Our local Tea Freaks are big Trump backers, but their #2 picks are guys like Huck and Cruz. These are all the only “real men” in the race. Carson gets a look in here and there as well, but a lot of the local Tea Freaks share the NRA’s somewhat racist/sexist attitude toward the 2016 race, so he’s at best a “possible VP” and not the top of the ticket.

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