Insane Doctor Who Scenario

Posted By: Peter DavidPosted On:

I’m not marking this as a spoiler because it’s just me doing totally nuts speculation.

The Doctor and River Song actually produce a child. The child is a foundling and adopted in the late 1980s by Mr. and Mrs. Pond. They name her “Amy” and raise her as their own. Amy, in a story development that Heinlein would approve of, grows up and gives birth to her own mother. And in her final appearance, on the verge of death (via accident or perhaps simply old age) Amy Pond regenerates into the Doctor’s new companion.

I’m sure it’s not remotely right, but it’s fun to think about.

PAD

26 comments on “Insane Doctor Who Scenario”

  2. Please don’t give them ideas. Some of their plots have been convoluted enough as it is. Very, very enjoyable, but convoluted.

    The last thing I want to see the new Who do is decide that By His Bootstraps and All You Zombies would make good plotting templates. Don’t get me wrong, I love some of Heinlein’s stuff, but he could get very, very goofy with stretching the time travel paradox theory at times.

  3. While I understand you’re simply speculating: My only issues with this scenario, are that it does not account for what hapens to Rory (unless it is old age, granted, but it would certainly be a whimper of an exit for him), and also Rory’s father, whom I would assume they wouldn’t have suddenly introduced for no purpose, I have a feeling he has a larger role in all of this.

  4. That scenario would provide a better explanation for River’s first regeneration early last season.

    How about this as an alternative … the Doctor’s daughter, played by Georgia Moffett back in series 4, regenerates into the little girl adopted by Mr. and Mrs. Pond.

    Just as semi-incestuous, with the Doctor marrying his granddaughter, but the Timelords are aliens.

    1. Speaking of semi-incestuous, keep in mind that the actress who played the Doctor’s daughter is the real life daughter of the actor who played the 5th (I think) Doctor. And, athe the time she was dating (and is now married to) David Tennant. Listen to some of the dialogue and vocal inflections from the actors during that episode — (“Hi, Dad”). Kinda trippy.

  5. I think the more likely scenario is that since Amy and Rory’s final story features the return of the Weeping Angels, the Angels zap Amy and Rory back through time to New York in 1970, where they end up raising young Melody Pond, fresh from her regeneration in “Day of the Moon.”

    This gives Rory, who has always wanted children, and Amy, who is unable to become pregnant again after Demon’s Run, the chance to raise Melody in a timey-wimey happy ending.

  6. Ah, the good ol’ unending time loop, appearing in everything from RED DWARF (“Ouroboros”) to BABYLON 5 (with the uninvented device given from the future to the present). It reminds me of a great quote from Captain Janeway in VOYAGER: “Time travel. Since my first day on the job as a Starfleet captain I swore I’d never let myself get caught in one of these godforsaken paradoxes – the future is the past, the past is the future, it all gives me a headache. “

  7. Now let me see if I gave heard you right:
    You’d like to go to Morrow, and return tomorrow night.
    You should have gone to Morrow yesterday, and back today,
    For the train that goes to Morrow is a mile upon its way.
    If you had gone to Morrow yesterday, now don’t you see,
    You could have gone to Morrow and returned today at three…

    http://youtu.be/JEilPR1PXko

  9. Since we’re doing wild conjectures, here’s mine.

    I’m currently watching through the old series and have it fresh enough in my mind that I noticed a strange parallel between the current series (Matt Smith’s third) and original series 3 with William Hartnell. We have:

    Serial 21: “The Dalek’s Master Plan” (Dalek episode where possible new companions died) matching “Asylum of the Daleks”;
    Serial 23: “The Ark” (about a space ark) matching “Dinosaurs on a Spaceship”;
    Serial 25: “Gunfighters” (Old West episode) matching “A Town Called Mercy”;
    Serial 27: “The War Machines” (Mind Control in modern day London) possibly matching “The Power of Three” (apparently Mind Control in modern day London).

    Now, if this trend continues, Serial 29 is “The Tenth Planet” (at the end of which the Doctor first regenerated).

    What do you guys figure are the odds that Moffat and the rest of the crew will actually try and pull a fast one and give us a surprise new Doctor without the whole thing being spoiled months in advance by modern media’s unnerving requirement that any major changes be announced/promoted ahead of time? And, even less likely, what if Jenna-Louise Coleman is not, in fact, the next companion, but instead the first female Doctor?

    Of course, as a friend of mine pointed out this is most likely just a nice “easter eggy” tribute to the old series. But still, discuss…

    Raphy

      1. I believe the “First Question” (assuming that’s the name of the 50th anniversary)will be the “tenth planet” for number 11. It’s too tempting to not end (or perhaps start) with the doctor’s regeneration.

        Perhaps, Knowing Moffat’s play with time, I think the new companion could very well be number 12. Older incarnations of the Doctor never recognize a future version on sight. 11 and 12 could have some adventures until the Fields of Trenzalor; and 12 is revealed.

    2. Given the various photos of Matt Smith and Jenna-Louise Coleman in character, it’s doubtful she’s actually going to be the Twelfth Doctor. Still, letting everyone think actor X is going to be the next companion, then suddenly revealing he or she is the next Doctor would be a brilliant move. If I were the producer of Doctor Who, I’d be tempted to try something like that.
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      Mark,
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      The First Doctor recognized the Second and Third Doctors on sight in “The Three Doctors.” (“So you’re my replacements, eh? A dandy and a clown.”) Likewise, the Second Doctor recognized the Third in that same story; and he recognized the Sixth Doctor in “The Two Doctors.” The only exceptions to instant recognition are the First Doctor not recognizing the Fifth in “The Five Doctors”; and the Fifth not recognizing the Tenth in “Time Crash.”
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      (The First, Second and Third talked to the Fifth over a monitor screen in “The Five Doctors”, but presumably they would have recognized him had they first met in person. The “dress sense”, which the Third Doctor noted hadn’t improved, would probably have been a dead giveaway, if nothing else.)
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      Of course the Eleventh Doctor wouldn’t recognize the Twelfth if the Twelfth used a Chameleon Arch for some reason and programmed the resulting human persona to seek out the Eleventh Doctor (it would also explain the photos of the two actors together). Presumably this would be to make sure certain things happen (or don’t). However, such a storyline seems terribly convoluted. It’d probably be less complicated to go back in time and retrieve a sports almanac in order to restore the correct timeline, while not interfering with your earlier time-traveling self’s performance of “Johnny B. Goode” in order to restore the correct timeline.
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      Jenna-Louise Coleman has already appeared in the series this season (I won’t give any details to avoid spoilers for those who haven’t seen the episode in question). Will there be any connection between the companion character and the one we met before? If so, will the Doctor know? He never saw what the earlier character looked like.
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      By the way, we tend to think of regenerations as happening at the end of a season, but two of them didn’t. The Hartnell/Troughton regeneration came in the second episode of season four; and the Davison/Colin Baker regeneration came in the penultimate episode of season 21. So it’s possible the Eleventh Doctor’s regeneration– when it comes– might not be in a season finale.
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      Rick

  11. As long as the thread seems to have drifted to other wacky theories, allow me to help it on its way…

    Everyone on Earth who was alive when the Master turned everyone on Earth into a copy of the Master is now a latent timelord. The Donna Noble story demonstrated that once you go timelord, the doctor can’t un-timelord you.

    Traveling in time in the Tardis is what brings out the timelord abilities. That’s why Amy and Rory seem really, really competent lately at doctor-like activities, pushing buttons randomly on a computer and getting it to give you the exact information you need instead of (for instance) getting a 404 error or blowing up the spaceship.

    River, of course, was a full timelord from the start; the child of two timelords is also a timelord.

    Of course, this theory is entirely insane. Peter’s is more likely to happen because his theory could make for some interesting interactions between the characters. Mine would result in a “meh, so we’re all timelords, now what ?” kind of thing.

    1. I swear to whatever that one day I shall find those grammar and word erasing gremlins and do to them what they continue to do to us!

      What I meant to type was:

      Just something TO think about:
      Susan Foreman.

  14. I am wondering if you might be sort of right about one of those developments. i.e Amy might change into the next companion. Since her and the doctor spent some time in the first episode without the bracelet protection from dalek nanobots, maybe she is changing? It might explain why lights keep shorting out/crackling around her in the 2nd and 3rd episodes. (As this happened around the human dalek agents in the first episode)
    It also might explain why the doctor is becoming more ruthless. i.e Maybe his time lord biology is preventing a physical change, but mentally he’s getting more like them.
    But Amy being in a loving relationship with Rory is maybe preventing that part of it from affecting her so much..

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  16. This makes me think of the song “I’m My Own Grandpa.” I heard it when I was about eleven or twelve and took time that would have been better spent studying just figuring out the logic of the song. Now that I’ve seen some episodes of Doctor Who, I can definitely see him doing something like that.

  18. I thought it’d be cool if Matt Smith regenerated into David Tennant again, and the following season would be, in part, about the mystery of why he took on an earlier body.

    Aw, I just want more David Tennant Doctor Who.

  19. -I think I made this pretty much spoiler free… but may be a bit on the rant-y, crazed side-
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    As much as I enjoy Dr.Who speculation, I’ve grown to despise Amy Pond so much I can´t hardly bear to contemplate more of her in any shape of form. I enjoyed her during her first season but given how it all ended revolving around her (in a rather brilliant way) I didn’t see the need for her to be the companion during the next season. To worsen it all, during that season she ended up beign either the problem or the solution in every dilemma. How many times an episode ended with her having to wish, un-wish, trust or un-trust something? Clutching her hands around her head, shutting her eyes and… pop, problem solved.
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    So when last season ended with what seemed like a good closure for Amy&Rory (I like Rory’s character for the most part), I wished, oh how I wished… But here they are again for a third season. I have only watched the first two episodes and, at least, Amy is no longer the knot or the key in those. Actually, Rory and Amy could very well not be there and the plot would not change much. Better, but still a weird writing decission.
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    I like the actress, mind you. It’s the character, or what Moffat does with it, that I dont like. Companions are agents in the story but above all they are our eyes… people we can relate to, inmmersed in The Doctor’s world. Amy, instead, is like some kind of Mary Sue. We are told repeatedly how strong, special and unique she is but we are never shown to any deed that prove those claims.
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    So as much as I enjoy time travel speculation, I sincerely wish PAD’s dont come anywhere closer to fullfilment. :__(

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