20 comments on “And somewhere, at this very moment”
Between the SOPA/PROTECT-IP bills, what’s going into the defense re-authorization bill, and so on, I sometimes wonder if I’m sailing on the USA Titanic.
Oh, and note how big business is throwing around the word ‘jobs’ like a politician throws around the word ‘terrorism’.
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Corporations have certainly found their own version of bûllšhìŧ fearmongering.
This morning, 93 Senators got together and took a šhìŧ on the Constitution.
What an idiotic law. Like that is going fix anything.
If they really want to secure jobs, do something about all those nine figure salaries in the industry.
anyway, yeah this all fastinating and stuff… don’t tell anyone, but I heard somewhere this whole thing was just an evil plot created by Peter David to further his own agend…. *OH* Hey, PAD, how long have you been standing there? Nothing, nothing, I’m talking about nothing. How ’bout those Yankees?
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I’ve seen a bit of this debate. Not a fan of this version of the law in question. I agreed with them on the need for it and for the basic concepts outlined in the discussions on how this would be enforced, but I think that they’re correct in how this version of the law may go too far and hit the wrong people.
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Perfect example – I’ve shown this video to a number of people who don’t know about Doctor Who (old or new series) who I think might dig the new series.
. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4YpH6TgqCY
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Some of them liked the trailer and ended up checking out the series. Thing is it’s not an official trailer. It’s a fan trailer using clips from the series and music from the series. Under the proposed law as written now, YouTube/Google might be facing punishment for having that video posted and the person who did it might also be tagged as well. The solution that most large companies like Google would likely see as the easiest course of action would be to not allow such videos to be posted.
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So videos like that, videos not intended to be a form of pirating or seen by most as copyright violation, would likely disappear and would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater to a degree. Might be best then to do a bit of fine tuning now rather than later.
And since you linked it here, PAD and this web-hosting service could also be held liable.
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It’s like holding someone responsible for a murder because the killer drove down his street on his way to meet the victim.
Considering your history, PAD, wouldn’t it be easier to list the things that AREN’T your fault?
J.
Come to think of it, where were you on November 22, 1963, Peter? Or April 15, 1912?
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And don’t gimme that guff about being a kid in school or not having been born yet; That coulda been a clever disguise!
Pay no attention to that talking Stone Circle in PAD’s basement nick-named “Gaurdian of Forever”
Had to click the link, otherwise I’d be wondering why they were trying to blame you for soup.
Peter, can you provide a link to where they’re blaming you for this?
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Time to take your sarcasm detector in for its 3,000 mile checkup, Luigi.
Out-and-out piracy is one thing, but it seems that every adjustment to the copyright law in the past 35 years has also resulted in a degradation in the rules governing “fair use,” public domain, and orphaned works. These restrictions can have a chilling effect on the free exchange of research, historical information and scholarly works. Repeat after me: “Fair use! Public domain! Fair use! Public domain! Fair use! Public domain!”
Has ANYTHING entered the public domain in the past 20-30 years?
Peter Pan, for one.
PAD
I always thought it ironic that Disney, which built a big chunk of its empire by rebooting public domain characters, has always been at the forefront of vigorous efforts to change the law to prevent material from becoming public domain.
There need to be laws protecting copyrights, but they need to make sense,be fair, take into account the way people use the internet, and be enforceable. Otherwise, you get a law that the vast majority of people, for better or worse, will ignore. And stupid laws that people ignore damage the strength of law in general.
The problem with this isn’t the need to protect copywritten materials — it’s the gray areas. Are fans covering songs breaking copyright? What about compilations of the 10 best moments of a show or movie? What if something hasn’t been officially released (I’m lookin’ at you, MST3K: Pumaman) or will never be released (like the Victoria’s Secret Fashion 2011, which I missed on CBS due to work but saw in its entirety — with VS commercials too — on YouTube)? What about a music video, which you can download and listen to for free instead of buying the song (or music video, for that matter) on iTunes? It’s the dreaded slippery slope between preventing someone from stealing a whole movie/album, and busting fans posting their own snippets/creations of the original.
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Between the SOPA/PROTECT-IP bills, what’s going into the defense re-authorization bill, and so on, I sometimes wonder if I’m sailing on the USA Titanic.
Oh, and note how big business is throwing around the word ‘jobs’ like a politician throws around the word ‘terrorism’.
.
Corporations have certainly found their own version of bûllšhìŧ fearmongering.
This morning, 93 Senators got together and took a šhìŧ on the Constitution.
What an idiotic law. Like that is going fix anything.
If they really want to secure jobs, do something about all those nine figure salaries in the industry.
anyway, yeah this all fastinating and stuff… don’t tell anyone, but I heard somewhere this whole thing was just an evil plot created by Peter David to further his own agend…. *OH* Hey, PAD, how long have you been standing there? Nothing, nothing, I’m talking about nothing. How ’bout those Yankees?
.
I’ve seen a bit of this debate. Not a fan of this version of the law in question. I agreed with them on the need for it and for the basic concepts outlined in the discussions on how this would be enforced, but I think that they’re correct in how this version of the law may go too far and hit the wrong people.
.
Perfect example – I’ve shown this video to a number of people who don’t know about Doctor Who (old or new series) who I think might dig the new series.
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4YpH6TgqCY
.
Some of them liked the trailer and ended up checking out the series. Thing is it’s not an official trailer. It’s a fan trailer using clips from the series and music from the series. Under the proposed law as written now, YouTube/Google might be facing punishment for having that video posted and the person who did it might also be tagged as well. The solution that most large companies like Google would likely see as the easiest course of action would be to not allow such videos to be posted.
.
So videos like that, videos not intended to be a form of pirating or seen by most as copyright violation, would likely disappear and would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater to a degree. Might be best then to do a bit of fine tuning now rather than later.
And since you linked it here, PAD and this web-hosting service could also be held liable.
.
It’s like holding someone responsible for a murder because the killer drove down his street on his way to meet the victim.
Considering your history, PAD, wouldn’t it be easier to list the things that AREN’T your fault?
J.
Come to think of it, where were you on November 22, 1963, Peter? Or April 15, 1912?
.
And don’t gimme that guff about being a kid in school or not having been born yet; That coulda been a clever disguise!
Pay no attention to that talking Stone Circle in PAD’s basement nick-named “Gaurdian of Forever”
Had to click the link, otherwise I’d be wondering why they were trying to blame you for soup.
Peter, can you provide a link to where they’re blaming you for this?
.
Time to take your sarcasm detector in for its 3,000 mile checkup, Luigi.
Out-and-out piracy is one thing, but it seems that every adjustment to the copyright law in the past 35 years has also resulted in a degradation in the rules governing “fair use,” public domain, and orphaned works. These restrictions can have a chilling effect on the free exchange of research, historical information and scholarly works. Repeat after me: “Fair use! Public domain! Fair use! Public domain! Fair use! Public domain!”
Has ANYTHING entered the public domain in the past 20-30 years?
Peter Pan, for one.
PAD
I always thought it ironic that Disney, which built a big chunk of its empire by rebooting public domain characters, has always been at the forefront of vigorous efforts to change the law to prevent material from becoming public domain.
There need to be laws protecting copyrights, but they need to make sense,be fair, take into account the way people use the internet, and be enforceable. Otherwise, you get a law that the vast majority of people, for better or worse, will ignore. And stupid laws that people ignore damage the strength of law in general.
The problem with this isn’t the need to protect copywritten materials — it’s the gray areas. Are fans covering songs breaking copyright? What about compilations of the 10 best moments of a show or movie? What if something hasn’t been officially released (I’m lookin’ at you, MST3K: Pumaman) or will never be released (like the Victoria’s Secret Fashion 2011, which I missed on CBS due to work but saw in its entirety — with VS commercials too — on YouTube)? What about a music video, which you can download and listen to for free instead of buying the song (or music video, for that matter) on iTunes? It’s the dreaded slippery slope between preventing someone from stealing a whole movie/album, and busting fans posting their own snippets/creations of the original.