Coming at you with spoilers and everything…
DOCTOR WHO: I’ve actually seen this one months ago, but now feel free to talk about it. As powerful and compelling as some episodes are the rest of this season (particularly “Girl in the Fireplace” and, most especially, the nail-biting season ender), this one remains my favorite. How could it not be? The return of Sarah Jane who, despite her protests that she’s gotten old, looks terrific. And Tony Head as a jaw-jutting alien who despises the shooty dog thing. Sarah Jane’s reaction to seeing the Doctor once more (“I thought you died!”) underscored how false Lois Lane’s snippy “Why we don’t need Superman” article was in “Superman Returns” after Superman vanished for five years. And you simply have to love Sarah and Rose’s one-upmanship duel of the bizarre things they’ve seen with Sarah’s “big Loch Ness monster” trumping anything Rose has to offer, followed by their subsequent bonding. (Fun trivia fact: In order to get Sarah Jane and Rose to burst out in genuine laughter when the Doctor walked in, David Tennant stepped in off camera sporting a comedic painted mustache.) What a terrific episode about closure, moving on with one’s life, and the dangers of eating too many chips.
BATTLESTAR GALACTICA: The pieces get moved into place for the Galactica to rescue the beleagured residents of New Caprica. A lot of necessary set-up, but I felt as if it could have been accomplished in half the time. Also, as compelling as this episode was, two things torqued me…one minorly and one majorly. The first was the resolution of the cliffhanger, as we learn that our heroes were saved due to events that were transpiring one hour earlier that we weren’t privvy to. It’s kind of like the old days of the movie serials, where the cliffhanger would end with the hero’s car plummeting off a cliff…only to discover, when you come back next week, that he actually leaped out of the car seconds before the car went over. It’s a bit of a cheat. If that were the only cheat in the episode, I’d let it go…but in the very same episode, Cylon D’anna (Lucy Lawless) learns that Sharon’s baby is still alive courtesy of prophetic dreams that we’ve never seen before, interpreted by a seer whom we’ve never seen before. It smacks of contrivance and lazy writing, which is all the more jarring in BSG since the series has set the bar so high for quality scripts. I’ll grant you, Sharon’s firm declaration that the baby couldn’t be dead because “Adama wouldn’t lie to me” sets the stage for a MAJOR blow-up that will be fantastic when it happens. I just wish they hadn’t needed to cut corners in order to reach that point.
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Jason, I was wondering the same thing, otherwise there was really no point of planting such a big clue in the middle of that scene. I actually flashed back to the Riverworld series, where the Richard Burton (the explorer, not the actor) character keeps killing himself only to be resurrected somewhere else on the planet, until one of the mysterious aliens who created the resurrection technology inform him that each person only has a finite number of regenerations, so he’d better knock it off.
“…the Doctor was being ordered to come to Gallifrey, and was presumably asking Sarah Jane to leave to protect her…”
In The Hand of Fear, all the Doctor says is he “can’t take Sarah to Gallifrey” – whether it was in fear for her life, his desire for her to retain her memories of him, or if humans simply weren’t allowed on Gallifrey is something that’s not answered until School Reunion. The 10th Doctor says humans weren’t allowed on Gallifrey in those days.
“Also, she’s the only companion we know of who the Doctor went back to check up on, and even gave a present (namely, K-9).”
In K9 & Company (the pilot for an aborted series), Sarah returns home after numerous off-screen travels to find K-9 waiting for her in a crate. If the Doctor did go back in person, they never met up, and he may have simply transported the dog to her…
He found out where she currently lived and gave her something. Even if he didn’t physically step on her doorstep, he checked up on her and gave her a present.
I’m still trying to figure out why he wouldn’t drop it off in person. Why both materialising outside the Fed-Ex building when you can materialise outside her house just as easily?
It’d make a great ad campaign, though. “Fed-Ex: so timely, it’s used by Time Lords.”
“I’m still trying to figure out why he wouldn’t drop it off in person. Why both materialising outside the Fed-Ex building when you can materialise outside her house just as easily?”
Are you kidding me? Have you ever seen a Classic Series story where the Doctor actually landed the TARDIS where he intended to?!? This guy’s a worse driver than drunk spider monkey…
RD Fozz-I thought I read something about the Rani showing up in the third series; anyone know if there’s any truth to that rumor?
Sounds like possible fan wank to me, but then again I said that when I first heard about what turned out to actually be Season Two’s big finale, so what do I know?
Seriously, though, concerning the Rani- Does anyone know what Pip and Jane Baker’s current rel;ationship with the BBC is like? Joe N?
Steven Clubb- So, when is the White Ship going to show up? They’ve definitely been setting up the gods as real, so I figure there’s going to be some variation of this… please let it be Shatner as god… please let it be Shatner 🙂
Only if someone asks him why God needs a starship? :p
About Sarah’s memories; I’m running on second hand info here (’cause I’m still working my way through the Doctor’s adventures in chronological order (meaning that I’m viewing episodes, reading novels and short stories, and listening to Big Finish’s audios)) and I’m only nearing the end of Tom Baker’s run, but I believe that history got all messed up by a group called Faction Paradox, and the Doctor actually had to watch Sarah (and other companions) die several times over. When everything was finally put to rights, there were huge sections of history that had to be overwritten so the Web of Time wouldn’t unravel. Not too far of a stretch, then, to assume that this version of Sarah doesn’t remember anything after the 4th dropped her off since, technically, it didn’t happen to ‘her.’
Anybody with firsthand knowledge of these events (from the BBC novel line, which are supposed to be canon), please feel free to confirm or deny.
In my heart, I know that the Master is out there somewhere, waiting to show up. If they’ve used the Daleks and the Cybermen, the Master can’t be far behind (perhaps season three).
It’s possible that since he is not in his original body any longer (Nyssa’s father? I think), that might explain why he is no longer “connected” to the Doctor.
“Seriously, though, concerning the Rani- Does anyone know what Pip and Jane Baker’s current rel;ationship with the BBC is like?”
I’m not sure what the Bakers are doing these days. I knew they worked on the- ahem- questionable Watt on Earth in the early nineties, and I’m pretty sure they did one of the Bill Baggs direct-to-video projects about five or six years ago if my memory isn’t playing tricks on me.
You bring up an interesting point, which is if the new Doctor Who regime was going to do a Rani story, presumably they’d have to go to the Bakers for permission, wouldn’t they? And would Russell and Company then have to say, ‘Thanks, but we don’t want you to write it?’ I’m not all that sure it would happen anyway; the new bosses don’t seem to be overly enthusiastic about using people from the original series. To my knowledge, only two people from the original Doctor Who have worked on the series, the first being director Graeme Harper, and the other being my much better half.
And I’d like to add my name to the list of people who would like to see the Master return, if for no other reason than to exorcise the memory of Eric Roberts from my mind once and for all.
“Are you kidding me? Have you ever seen a Classic Series story where the Doctor actually landed the TARDIS where he intended to?!? “
It happened a few times, though you’re right that it was pretty rare. However, it’s just as likely to land no where near a delivery service as nowhere near her home.
I’m not sure why the distinction between mailing her a present and dropping it off at her house is an important one.
In my heart, I know that the Master is out there somewhere, waiting to show up.
As soon as he finds a way to crawl out of the Eye of Harmony. 🙂
Just because it’s fun to bring up. Tom Baker has expressed interest in playing The Master in the new series… or did prior to it starting.
And I’ve long thought it might be fun to Forrest Gump the “lost” episode, Shada. I figure the videotape footage would be completely useless, but they might be able to do something with the location film. It would be an interesting way to finish the serial.
Hasn’t anybody condidered the idea that Baltar is in fact a Cylon?
How could he have survived that explosion in the opening credits? By Number Six’s shielding his body? It would certainly explain how he shows up in that meadow with nary a scratch–he downloaded there, then took Helo’s(?) place on the transport.
It would certainly explain how Number Six and he are linked by illusionary versions of each other. Perhaps they are a program in the Cylon database constructed to try to understand human motivation?
Just a thought.
–Captain Naraht.
“John, I remember some of those rumors about Head, but I’m pretty sure it was because he was playing the headmaster of the school, and that sort of became Head-Master. and then Head…Master. It certainly wouldn’t be the first time. I remember seeing a Doctor Who news piece of mine that was somehow mis-repeated and eventually became something else entirely, because it was the wrong version that was then repeated. ‘What?’ I hear you say, ‘SF fans getting it wrong?’ Yeah, hard to believe, isn’t it?”
There’s also the fact that the promo people were gleefully playing up the possibility, to the point that one of the promo images showed ASH standing next to a “headmaster” tag that was half-cut off by the screen, so that he was right by a sign screaming “MASTER.” No way that’s not intentional.
The Headmaster’s motivations and actions were so utterly Master-like that I’m convinced they at least placed him in there as a backdoor — namely, that they could easily slot him in as the Master at a later date, or just as easily forget he was ever there.
We’ll see the Master sooner or later. The whole “time lords are all dead” thing is a gigantic, slow-burn uber-arc, but I don’t believe for a moment that it won’t be resolved eventually. (I suspect the Face of Boe’s final message will lead into this, actually.)
Not to spoil things, but last years Doctor Who annual revealed that the Doctor is not a lone survivor. A fact which turns up during the 2nd series.
I’m new to BSG, but agree with Peter on the lazy parts. But does anyone else think Lucy Lawless is really hot? Is it really zena? Wow
ScotiaNova –
Not to spoil things, but last years Doctor Who annual revealed that the Doctor is not a lone survivor.
Doctor Who Annual? Is that the magazine?
A fact which turns up during the 2nd series.
You’ll have to remind me where this ‘fact’ turned up.
I have only seen “The Christmas Invasion” and “New Earth” so far this season, because I don’t have cable and for some reason the CBC is airing _Doctor Who_ about a week after the Sci-Fi channel does. However, I read some time ago about Sarah Jane’s “I thought you died” line. I understand there’s some question about whether she remembers the events of “The Five Doctors” (and/or whether it now ever occurred). Personally, I don’t see any contradiction if she does remember that adventure. Think about it. It was filmed in 1983 for the 20th anniversary; and if we assume the “present day” scenes in that story also took place in 1983, and the current “present day” scenes take place in 2006, that means Sarah Jane has gone 23 years without having heard word one from the Doctor (in any of his incarnations). After _23 years_, why _wouldn’t_ she assume he’d died?
On another note, Joe Nazzaro, regarding Pertwee saying the “teeth and curls” line in “The Five Doctors”, you’ll note that Sarah Jane is miming someone with teeth and curls, and that he responds with a question, not a statement.
Michael D: ” I believe there’s a line in The Five Doctors that states the previous characters will retain no memories of the events once they return to their proper era.”
No, there’s no such line. They simply leave. You may be thinking of the Second Doctor’s and the Brigadier’s encounter with images of his former companions, Zoe and Jamie in that story. At the end of his last story, “The War Games”, the Time Lords erased their memories of all but their first respective adventure with the Doctor before returning them to their own times. In “The Five Doctors”, the Doctor tells “Zoe” and “Jamie” they’re not real because the Time Lords erased their memories of the period they spent with him. “So how do you know who we are?”
Actually, as I noted above, they _would_ know whom the Doctor was. It’s the Brigadier the real Zoe and Jamie would be clueless about.
Rick
Don’t worry, Steve. I’m quite certain that you’re nowhere near alone regarding the hotness of Lucy Lawless.
The Doctor Who annual is a hardback book produced by the BBC, it’s a staple of kiddies christmases here in the UK. I don’t own the book, but read it in the shop I worked in at the time. And there was a portion about the time war being etched in a kind of tapestry in rock on a far off planet and ended with the inscription “you are not alone”, or somesuch.
This years annual has an interesting lenticular cover with Eccleston and Tennant.
“Not to spoil things, but last years Doctor Who annual revealed that the Doctor is not a lone survivor. A fact which turns up during the 2nd series.”
Which part of that statement wasn’t a spoiler? Sheesh.
josh
PS If you don’t want to spoil things, try not posting spoilers.
Josh,
From his POV, it wasn’t a spoiler because the the second season aired months ago in the UK. Give the guy a break.
ScotiaNova,
The second season of Who just started airing on the SciFi Channel a few weeks ago. The latest episode was School Reunion on Friday and they air once a week. So a lot of Season Two info is spoiler info at this time.
BSG: I also thought Casey was a little too old to be Kara’s child. Maybe it’s a young version of 6?
Also, am I the only one who thinks the cylon cracked Casey over the head, rather than her just having a regular accident? It was a little too convenient that she had an accident the moment Kara left the room.
BSG:
Speaking of Starbuck’s “non” child, how about Casey waking up just as she accepted Doral’s premise? Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s good writing and is a clue that this is all yet another ploy by Doral. And simply due to repatition, Starbuck is starting to break. My girlfriend (who has a 3 soon to be 4 year old) says that the actress looks about 2, which is close to what a Casey would be. Don’t forget the lost year and then the 4 months at the begining of season 3, gives us about 18 months or so. But I agree, it’s not Starbuck’s kid.
This is the 2nd website where I’ve read this about cylons being “boxed”. I’m guessing I missed it, where was it mentioned in the episode?
Baltar, I’m betting (and this is ENTIRELY speculation on my part, I totally avoid spoilers) he doesn’t make it back to Galactica. He gets stuck with the Cylons and & #6. Like someone says above, he knows far too much to be let go of.
Also, I think the “in head” #6 only apears when Caprica 6 is not around. In head only appeared after Caprica 6 was shot. And I agree with the notion that was the first time Baltar had seen her since they cylons landed.
I don’t think Baltar is a cylon, but have thought the same thing about him surviving the house’s demolition AND him looking directly at a nuclear explosion (which should blind him).
While I’m pontificating and question asking, can anybody tell me if we know that Tom Zerek killed anybody when he blew the building up 20 years ago? I’m really enjoying Richard Hatch’s performances & wish other actors could join in. Say roles they would be perfect for like maybe “Starbuck’s Father”?
What’s up with Apollo’s weight gain? Is it just storyline or is there something up with the actor?
I’ll forgive the “re-writing” of the cliffhanger if they don’t use it all the time. I hate to say it, but it is a cop out especially if used all the time. I figured there was something up the cliffhanger last week, but wasn’t sure what.
Butch, the reason for Apollo’s weight gain is due to the year he spent on the Pegasus basically doing nothing- in fact there’s a scene where Adama gives him a hard time about going soft, so yes, it’s a deliberate story point that I suspect will be playing out in upcoming episodes. In fact, I believe there’s an upcoming episode called ‘Unfinished Business,’ in which Adama green-lights a boxing tournament to clear the air of all the lingering hard feelings between various officer and crew personnel. If memory serves, I think Tyrol challenges Appolo to a match.
Butch R,
The term about cylons being “boxed” is from the episode, late in the second season, that happens on Caprica where we see what happened to Caprica Six and Boomer after they Downloaded and were resurrected. I don’t recall exactly what happens but I recall that they’re basically put in cold storage indefinitely. It’s the same (and only) episode where we see that Caprica Six is seeing an insubstantial Baltar.
K-9…
This was worth the price of admission just to hear my 2 favorite Tom Baker Who companions.
Yes I did love Leela {I mean what hormonal teenage boy wouldn’t} but Sarah Jane still holds a sacred place in my heart.
Correct me if I am wrong but wasn’t the voicework of K-9 done by the same actor from the Tom Baker days?
BSG, I didn’t like the dreamscape vision that the Xena Fembot received and the fact that she told the 6 Cylon. It does set the stage for future problems with the President, Adama, and Sharon, but I still would have preferred the writers did it another way.
Of the Sci Fi Friday episodes I am going with Doctor Who…(Anthony Head [Giles] and K-9) I was/am geeking out over here.
Regards:
Warren S. Jones III
I loved the School Reunions episode. Seeing Sara Jane and K-9 made me so happy, even though I’m not so far a big fan of the newest doctor. I’ve been wondering about all this “last Time Lord” stuff myself. What about Romana and K-9 II – didn’t they stay in e-space or whatever it was called? Would they have been affected?
Posted by: Butch R at October 16, 2006 01:48 PM
I don’t think Baltar is a cylon, but have thought the same thing about him surviving the house’s demolition AND him looking directly at a nuclear explosion (which should blind him).
I wouldn’t read too much into that. I suspect the writers were merely being sloppy. After all, the Cylons supposedly nuked the living hëll out of Caprica and yet every time we’ve seen that post-nuclear-holocaust world all of the buildings are standing and the vegetation remains richly abundant.
What about Romana and K-9 II – didn’t they stay in e-space or whatever it was called
According to RTD, Romana was president of Galifrey (as shown in the novels and the Big Finish audios) at the time of Galifrey’s destruction. Presumingly, her K-9 was with her.
“What’s up with Apollo’s weight gain? Is it just storyline or is there something up with the actor?”
Bamber did an sci-fi chat talking about that. It’s for the first half seasons’ arc. It’s also padding.
http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/
There’s a vid on there with Bamber getting put in the makeup.
“According to RTD, Romana was president of Galifrey (as shown in the novels and the Big Finish audios) at the time of Galifrey’s destruction. Presumingly, her K-9 was with her.”
That’s interesting. Didn’t the original K-9 stay on Galifrey with Leela? I can just imagine the two K-9s together. They could form a singing group.
Jason M Bryant: Somewhere in my archives, I still have a bumper sticker with a parody of the old FedEx logo and slogan (from when they were still Federal Express): “TARDIS EXPRESS: When it absolutely, positively has to be there before you mailed it.”
Steven Clubb: I think most of the “Shada” OB (film) footage was already used for the brief 4th Doctor appearance in “The Five Doctors”, and I seem to recall the BBC releasing something on video awhile back with all the extant footage and a certain amount of commentary. Plus, of course, Douglas Adams re-used pretty much the entire plot (along with a big chunk of “City of Death”) for the novel _Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency_. So I think it’s kind of been done to death at this point.
Warren S. Jones III: Yes, that’s the voice of John Leeson, who originated the K-9 role (and returned to it after one or two series with a different actor).
Don, that’s pretty good. That reminds me of a SNL sketch from about 15 years ago. It had a guy getting fired for turning in a report late, then getting a promotion instead when he used Einstein Express to send the report to himself two weeks earlier. Then it had a guy sending birth control pills to his girlfriend a month ago.
They only used the punting scene from Shada in Five Doctors. All of the location footage for the serial had been completed, so there’s quite a bit of it.
And I really wouldn’t suggest a straight re-do, but they could probably rework the footage if they put their mind to it. Maybe a plot-within-the-plot, where the 10th Doctor is trying to avoid his previous self in order to prevent an entirely different crisis. If it’s possible to pull off decently on a BBC budget, that’s probably the episode to use, since you can make pretty much any change you want.
OK, small interjection on Who canon here, working from memory so probably contains some degree of human error…
After the BBC series went on hiatus, BBC licensed Virgin to produce “New Adventures” novels, picking up with the 7th doctor and Ace. Virgin later picked up a license to do “Missing Adventures” featuring doctors 1-6. The “New Adventures” ran up until one final novel (The Dying Days?) which introduced the 8th Doctor. At that point the license reverted to the BBC who began their own range of 8th Doctor novels, again this was joined shortly by a range of missing adventures featuring Doctors 1-7…
The Virgin novels begat a range of books featuring Bernice Summerfield, who had been a companion of their Doctor.
Meanwhile, Big Finish had been licensed by the BBC to produce audio CDs featuring Doctors 5-8.
The audio series spawned it’s own subset of specials and spin-offs, including a UNIT series and ‘Gallifrey’ featuring Leela, Romana and 2 x K-9s.
There is also an excellent spin off ine of books and audios concentrating on Faction Paradox.
Not forgetting the BBC web broadcasts which featured a radically different take on the 7th Doctor as well as introducing the real 9th Doctor..
However, back to ‘canon’…
As I understand it, because the BBC is a publicly funded organisation, it’s not allowed to directly market it’s licensed products for commercial profit… So each of the strands above, had to be effectively stand alone, ie: they couldn’t say ‘here are our 8th doctor stories, but in order to figure out WTF is happening you need to go buy these 50 books from Virgin’, which is one reason – I believe – that RTD lopped off a lot of the Doctor’s past in the new series. There was also an element of deliberately making the new series a good jumping on point for people who knew nothing about the Doctor’s pasts.
So from one point of view they are all seperate entities. From another point of view, so many of the same creative people have been responsible for the stories that a lot of concepts and ideas have been kept broadly consistant across the whole range of publications…
So you can pretty much pick and choose what is or isn’t canon purely based on your own personal tastes!!
Cheers!
Loved when Rose referred to K-9 as looking “disco.” That was worth the price of admission all by itself.
As for the unfilmed Shada footage, are you all aware that the BBC are now releasing an incomplete serial from the Troughton era with the missing portions/episodes being replaced with animation using the original audio tracks recorded by fans from the original transmission?
Interestingly – Amanda Plummer (the seer) is credited for the first 3 episodes – I wonder if some key scenes were left out in the final cut…
Paul McGann (the 8th Doctor) John Leeson (K9) and Lalla Ward (Romana II) starred in the BBCi Webcast of “Shada” some years back…
Steven Clubb: It’s been a long time since I saw “The Five Doctors”, and I suspect memory was filling in more Baker footage than was actually there. My goof. I still think it’s going to be – and SHOULD be – a long time before the current series gets around to a rework of the story instead of new plots (though in fairness, I’d take an enveloped “Shada” over the waste of time, money and talent that is “Love & Monsters”, coming up later in this season).
ScotiaNova: OH yes. I already have “The Invasion” DVD set on order from Sendit. The brief animation clip on the BBC’s website looks pretty dámņ good, and I’m very happy they used Cosgrove-Hall for the work.
One quibble, though: as I understand it, the surviving audio tracks from the original episodes aren’t fan recordings (though a few of the recovered “lost” video episodes are) – they’re out of the BBC’s own archives, and I get the impression from the Beeb’s description that most or all of the wiped 1st and 2nd Doctor series still exist as audio recordings as well. Seems to have been common practice at the time, apparently to provide an on-air backup (with accompanying “telesnap” screenshots) in case the tape failed during broadcast; they’ve released a couple of other shows (such as the SF miniseries “A For Andromeda”) in that format.
In other words, they’ve got a whole library of material that could be animated if “The Invasion” sells well enough – and I hope this is the case.
Dr Who – Personally I liked the episode even though I’ve been missing the previous incarnation of the Doctor terribly.
BSG – I’m still not understanding how the whole Cylon heirarchy works and would really like to see that explained more than anything else. I caught an old episode of the first BSG and noted that a reference was made to a ‘leader’ which I can’t ever remember seeing but is an element which hasn’t even been suggested in the new series to this point.
Baltar is a lock to stay wih the Cylons. Don’t forget Roslyn made a comment earlier remembering seeing Baltar with Number Six back on Caprica before the attack and after the events of the last several months he has to have cemented himself as traitor numero uno to the human race.
The other thing which I’m a bit curious about is if the Cylons themselves have decided bringing religion to the human savages is a waste of their time, why aren’t they just letting them go their way. Seems like a big waste of their energy otherwise.
I’m wondering too when the BSG universe is going to collide with some other races?
Jason M. Bryant wrote:
That’s interesting. Didn’t the original K-9 stay on Galifrey with Leela? I can just imagine the two K-9s together. They could form a singing group.
That’s what distroyed Galifrey!! The K-9’s dyslexic singing. 😀
Sorry about the bad spelling in my previous post, I was too busy laugthing at my bad joke to check my spelling…
“BSG – I’m still not understanding how the whole Cylon heirarchy works and would really like to see that explained more than anything else. I caught an old episode of the first BSG and noted that a reference was made to a ‘leader’ which I can’t ever remember seeing but is an element which hasn’t even been suggested in the new series to this point.”
In the original BSG series, the Cylons had an Imperious Leader who was from a model that was designed for decision making instead of fighting. He was much more spoken of than seen. The governing structure of the Cylons in the new series is more complex. Based on what I’ve seen in the third season so far, representatives of at some of the twelve Cylon models get together and try to come to a cosensis. This would be impossible for humans, but it looks individual memebers of each model of Cylon are even extremely similar in their thinking process. I’m guessing that they were all identical when they were first made and that any difference are a result of different experiences they’ve encountered. It seems to be assumed that one or two of the individual members of a Cylon model can speak for the whole line. However, I think I’m seeing hints that it’s getting more difficult for the Cylons to agree on things than before.
“The other thing which I’m a bit curious about is if the Cylons themselves have decided bringing religion to the human savages is a waste of their time, why aren’t they just letting them go their way. Seems like a big waste of their energy otherwise.”
I think the Cylons are afraid that the humans will one day return and destroy them if they’re left to their own devices. The Cylons in the new BSG started out as a slave-race to the humans. The first war against them was a Cylon rebellion. I think that a deep fear of humanity is inherant in the Cylon psyche. They can’t just leave them alone. The Cylons have to either control them or wipe them to be safe from them.
Joe,
I had the pleasure of interviewing Elizabeth face-to-face the day after the episode went out in the UK and she was an utter delight. She was convinced that most people wouldn’t like the episode and seemed genuinely shocked when people kept coming up to her and saying ‘You were great’.
Which of course, she was.
Jerry C Thanks for the info & link
Bill Myers good point
David Hunt thanks for the info. As soon as I read your response, I remembered it.
Joe Nazzaro Thanks for the info. Like the sound of the episode.
Jerry C Thanks for the info & link
Bill Myers good point
David Hunt thanks for the info. As soon as I read your response, I remembered it.
Joe Nazzaro Thanks for the info. Like the sound of the episode.
Jason M. Bryant: “That’s interesting. Didn’t the original K-9 stay on Galifrey with Leela? I can just imagine the two K-9s together. They could form a singing group.”
The Gallifrey series is wonderful…and yes, the Romana K-9 is regularly harping about how he’s a more advanced model than the Lella K-9 (although something happens to deal with that particular problem). The best part is, in the later audios, the Mary Tamm Romana shows up, too. Great, great stuff.
And while Big Finish doesn’t have the rights to do anything with the current BBC series, a recent 5th Doctor audio adventure managed to sneak the 9th Doctor into the story, and even had a passable 4th Doctor impersonation!
Now, I need to get home and listen to the one I just got in the mail, with Janet Fielding doing her one and only audio play. I’m still floored they got her. The only companion from the 4th Doctor onwards that hasn’t appeared is Adric (although Matthew Waterhouse did a role in Zagreus). Hmmm…I’m nerded out for the day.