Part 2 of the three parter involving the showdown with Singularity Investigations. Whad’ja think?
PAD
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Well, it did have that “things coming to a head” feeling about it. I don’t get why Jamie would not be a mutant simply because his powers were manifest at birth. The last I heard, it was common for mutant powers to manifest at puberty but it wasn’t universal. Regardless, I would think that the “fact” (we have only Tryp’s word on this) that they used to manifest their powers at birth doesn’t really make them something other than mutants. Maybe I wasn’t paying attention or I’ve missed something (this is the only mutant book I’ve read in about ten years), but that’s how it looks to me at the moment.
**Spoiler-type speculation ahead*****
Speaking of Tryp, I’m now confident that my original hunch about him when he first appeared is correct. “Which Tryp?” you ask. That’s the thing. I’m sure that there’s only one Tryp. The young Tryp “Jr.,” the middle-aged guy, the old guy, they’re all the time traveler at various stages of his life.
It was really good, Peter. I really like how the ongoing storylines are proceeding. I also like the the revelations into Jamie’s childhood. I’m curious as to whether he’ll ever remember Tryp.
Btw, will it eventually be revealed that the name “Tryp” is an abbreviation or distortion of some other word, which gives insight into who Tryp “really” is?
Peter, at WonderCon I spoke to you about Guido and how he doesn’t use the word “blork” anymore. You replied “I forgot about that. I’ll have to have him start saying it again.” Have you been planning Guido’s mind control since then? I’ve pointed out in other forums that Strong Guy’s behavior has been different and more violent since issue #1, so this does seem like something that had been brewing for a while.
“Peter, at WonderCon I spoke to you about Guido and how he doesn’t use the word “blork” anymore. You replied “I forgot about that. I’ll have to have him start saying it again.” Have you been planning Guido’s mind control since then?”
Before then, actually. I was being coy.
PAD
I was right he was being crunchitized… er– I mean Manchurianized. Is he going to go back to calling all the remaining mutants Genetically challenged again?
If ALL mutant powers triggered at puberty wouldn’t that mean Franklin Richards, Artie, Leech and Magneto aren’t mutants?
I had the same thoughts about Tryp and time travel. See, I naturally assumed the y in Tryp is prounounce as an i and not as an e like it generally does. The fact that he called his organization singularity is another clue. Since some theories state that inside naked singularities the last of time break down. However if a singularity were wearing clothes you just go in and don’t come out again. No one knows why.
Doctor Druid was, at one point, able to manifest three temporal aspects of himself at once (youth, mature man, old man), so Tryp could be using a similar ability.
Theory two, Tryp has the Starbrand. 🙂
Theory three, Tryp has a power similar to Jaime’s, but he can only use it once in a while, and it spawns a newborn rather than an adult copy. Or it spawns a fully mature adult regardless of how old the original is.
Tryp –> Triptych –> 3
He’s probably the same man.
Tryp: short for Triplicate?
Really enjoyed this issue. Thought the “killcrop” concept was AWESOME. I think the repercussions of that idea will echo long and far… So glad Guido was apparently “used” as opposed to being in control of himself… Tryp is more interesting by the moment…Jaime, Monet, Quicksilver, all good stuff. I can’t pin it down but recent issues just hadn’t seemed as “must read” for me, but now you’ve scrambled back into my “read first” pile.
Lets not forget the duplicating villain from MardroX who told Jamie he is not a mutant, and in fact has no idea what he is.
>Theory two, Tryp has the Starbrand. 🙂
Good thing these are separate universes, because that would be a Really Bad Thing.
So there is another “type” of mutants. That normally is not a good thing such as with the Xternals and other “hidden” mutants and most of them are removed or erased.
So Guido was mind controlled with a cell phone trigger?
In the spirit of Stephen Colbert, all I have to say is…I CALLED IT!
Honestly? I’m surprised more people *didn’t* call it. I thought it was pretty obvious.
PAD
“I thought it was pretty obvious.”
Isn’t that sort of what Holmes/House tend to say when they see something no average mortal twigs to?
Seemed fairly clear to me, to be honest; Guido gets mysterious phone call, Guido reacts with a strange detachment and slight confusion, Guido suddenly does something shockingly and violently out of character. The dots sort of connect themselves.
Another great issue, Peter. I’m really happy about there being an ongoing storyline that isn’t entirely about the Civil War thing happening at Marvel. I’m really enjoying all the characterizations going on. Few people could make the Layla Miller thing interesting, without it being cloying.
Then again, I’m still giddy about getting to read a monthly comic about Jamie Madrox.
Tryp = 3 but he is the head of Singularity Investigations.. just 1. 🙂
Wonder where Manikin from Alpha Flight falls into this – his ability to split into a protomatter blob, caveman, and future guy.
Until later
John
I said it in another thread here, but I’d like to say it again: X-Factor is the best comic out right now! #10 and #11, which I both read just recently, were excellent. Just great issues! In fact, I need to read them again soon. Just great issues and I can’t wait to see what happens next issue!
Keep it up PAD!
DF2506
Oh, OK, that part, yes. But I thought PAD was referring to it being “obvious” that Guido was mind-controlled BEFORE the incident happened.
For my own personal experience, I’d never seen Guido at all before his appearance in the MaddroX mini. I really had no idea that he was acting out of character. If he goes back to his former way, it might seem weird from my end…
One of the best parts of the book?
The bit about the air conditioner.
My 3 must-read comics this week were X-Factor, Nextwave, and 52.
Sadly, my bank account is very much in the red (or in the parentheses, I guess), so I won’t be able to buy any comics for a while. I’m sure X-Factor is good, though (*sniff!*).
Could a clue be that it isn’t pronounced “trip”. but instead pronounced “tripe”?
“Honestly? I’m surprised more people *didn’t* call it. I thought it was pretty obvious.
PAD”
Like I said, in the spirit of the Colbert Report 🙂
PAD,
I liked it, as expected.
The truth about Guido made sense. I had mixed feelings about it being revealed so quickly. At the same time, I am relieved that he has not changed as much as I feared. (I will have to reread the prior issue. It didn’t make sense to me that it was “mind control” since I did not think they would know the two were in the vehicle at the same time. But I am sure that was covered, I just need to look it up.)
RE: Jamie — Wow. You have taken what was a fun character and made him into a riveting character. I am hooked simply because I want to see where this goes.
Iowa Jim
Excellent issue, but what is up with the Letters page? aside from changing the Next Issue Cover the letters are the same as were printed in issue 10. Was this just an error or the first sign that the letters page is being phased out again?
David Hunt, the old Guido is better. He’s just as funny as this Guido, but more likeable.
“The truth about Guido made sense. I had mixed feelings about it being revealed so quickly.”
I actually had a discussion with the editor about that very thing when he read the script for #11. My reasoning for doing it the way I did was twofold: First, I figured readers were going to expect me to drag it out, so I wanted to confound expectations. And second, X-Factor is supposed to be a detective agency. If one of their own people commits a murder and they don’t figure it out, it makes them seem impotent. By having Guido be unable to fool them for any length of time, it reinforces the notion that they are a force to be reckoned with.
PAD
Not much else to say, besides that I’m still digging it. I’m also looking forward to the reprocussions of Jamie’s dupe’s “busy” night…
Peter David: And second, X-Factor is supposed to be a detective agency. If one of their own people commits a murder and they don’t figure it out, it makes them seem impotent. By having Guido be unable to fool them for any length of time, it reinforces the notion that they are a force to be reckoned with.
Luigi Novi: Well then it’s a good thing that this particular agency has a lycan mutant with heightened senses!
>Luigi Novi: Well then it’s a good thing that this particular agency has a lycan mutant with heightened senses!
Just imagine if she had Mr. Monk’s powers of observation to go along with those heightened senses.
Just imagine if she had Mr. Monk’s powers of observation to go along with those heightened senses.
Rahne was pretty cool this issue. I also liked the “Did she just grab your rump?” moment, even though I’m paraphrasing.
You can pencil me in for the “glad it was discovered almost immediately” crowd. Seeing the reaction to betrayal is almost always more interesting and revealing about characters than seeing them be betrayed. Additionally, this subversion was just too big. For something so important to go some completely wrong and not expose inconsistencies stretches disbelief.
Dave Hunt said:
For my own personal experience, I’d never seen Guido at all before his appearance in the MaddroX mini. I really had no idea that he was acting out of character. If he goes back to his former way, it might seem weird from my end…
Before Peter beats me to it– there was a trade done a year or two ago. Most comic stores and Amazon will have it.
I don’t think they have to dilute the ‘old’ Guido’s sensor of humor just a tad (not much) to fit him to the tone of the book. Otherwise it’d be like shoehorning in characters created for the Teen Titans cartoon into the actual comic books. :0)
Just wanted to say that I am trying to switch over to trades completely, but I can’t do it with X-Factor (or Runaways). It’s too good to not have each month, so thanks.
I like that instead of just writing Rahne flipping out over the smell of blood on Guido, you wrote it as something that Jamie watched happen. For some reason that was cool.
And about the previous issue, I meant to ask you this– was there a reason Jamie needed not even to ask Rahne if they’d just spent the night together? Or did he, perhaps behind the scenes? I got a real kick out of the fact that he had to ask Layla but with Rahne, we just have no idea. I kid myself that you are toying with some of us…not too long ago the you had her hitting on Jamie big time (in the older X-Factor, when she was still suffering from Genoshan tampering).
Loving the series.
Rahnefan- I think Rahne was interested in Jamie in the old series simply because she was in heat (and maybe because he was the closest to his age). Outside of that single issue in Genosha (Ibelieve it was #88) she has nevver shown interest in Jamie in a romantic sense.
I know, Alex, but still…that silence was loud.
I still thought Gudio was a Skrull and I’m hoping for a Skrull-infused twist about 10 issues down the line. If there’s anything more Marvel comics needs, its Skrulls. Lots of ’em.
Aside from the Gudio stuff, I’ve been really digging the heart of this arc, which is linking up Mr. Tryp (all of them, even Mister Wizard. Hopiing for a good explanation of it) and how its tied in with Jamie’s past. There’s a bunch of head-screw moments throughout. I thought the explanation that Jamie is a sort of proto-mutant was way cool. Truthfully, back in the Madrox mini when it was hinted that Jamie was Something More, I thought he was a space alien.
Dammit, back to the Skrulls again.
Anyway, good issue. The art is okay, but the artist shifting is giving me a headache and kind of distrupting the storyline’s flow. I can’t wait until Pablo R. jumps back on in issue #13. His work on the mini was The Shiznit.
Once again another great issue, and I look forward to issue #14 cause the cover looks great.
But I do have a question about Siryn, I’ve seen on some sites that people are complaining about the Siryn/Madrox situation, and saying how Warpath/Siryn “almost” couple is the only one for her etc. standard fanboy/girl stuff. But I’m curious as to your views on Warpath/Siryn stuff that happened in X-Force, way back when, and will it ever come up in X-Factor?
Thanks for at least taking the time to read this.
Rahnefan And about the previous issue, I meant to ask you this– was there a reason Jamie needed not even to ask Rahne if they’d just spent the night together? Or did he, perhaps behind the scenes?
I think both Peter and Dematies have covered this before. Both of them were at Muir Island (for as briefly as Rahne was supposed to have been there) but they were there around the same time and say Moira as a mother figure. Give the age difference it’d be easy to how Jamie could see her as his kid sister. Banshee and Moira were involved at the time but Siryn was closer to his age and he didn’t have to be protective of her. Plus, there is a difference between sleeping with your sister and sleeping with your hot stepsister. (It’s not illegal, but it is still frowned upon.)
Also with Rhane it may have been pushing it, I fear the other guys on X-Factor would quit if Madrox had sex with all the women, who were not jailbait ;).
Also with Rhane it may have been pushing it, I fear the other guys on X-Factor would quit if Madrox had sex with all the women, who were not jailbait ;).
I don’t think Guido would quit. Given Rahne’s (relative) sensitivity and at least Old Guido’s protectiveness of her– I could see him trying to beat the crap out of the other Jamies for screwing around with Siryn and M at the same time. Which would somewhat hypocritical since Guido ENCOURAGED Jamie to have those type of evenings (at least during the Legacy arc.)
I think Rahne and Jamie are in the “friend zone” at the moment. Jamie, dupe or not, probably knew instinctively not to go there. Too much respect. I suspect we’ll find out for sure later.
I don’t know whether Jamie’s dupe would have had any problems with seducing Rahne, but I do think he knew that Rahne would have shot him down hard if he’d tried. Just my impression.
Madrox pops up in the most unexpected places. Like the 12th paragraph of this hip-hop feature from the Washington City Paper:
Scott Iskow:
I think Rahne and Jamie are in the “friend zone” at the moment. Jamie, dupe or not, probably knew instinctively not to go there. Too much respect. I suspect we’ll find out for sure later.
Rahne had a thing for him when she was jumped up on Genoshia juice. (The imfamous: ‘I have to go to the Multiple Mens room’ moment.) I think at least one of the dupes even made a comment about being hit on by his little sister.
I still think Douglock would make a better guest star than Shatterstar.
I hear and already thought of that stuff, guys, but what are we saying here? That Jamie is so ethical or whatever that not a one of his dupes (each of which are expressing varied, extreme, and often conflicting aspects of Jamie’s “personality”) would have slept with Rahne, but regarding 13-year-old Layla, he’s not so sure? That’s saying something right there.
rahnefan said:
I hear and already thought of that stuff, guys, but what are we saying here? That Jamie is so ethical or whatever that not a one of his dupes (each of which are expressing varied, extreme, and often conflicting aspects of Jamie’s “personality”) would have slept with Rahne, but regarding 13-year-old Layla, he’s not so sure? That’s saying something right there.
The mind is easily trained to see certain people, particualarly ones we’ve known a long time in a certain way and it seems natural. We grow emotional comfortable with the way things are. Change threatens the comfort zone. That’s why people (as a general rule) don’t like to change.
Sleeping with Siryn was a natural thing for Jamie to do. She was (as far as we know) his first love and he’s slept with her before. Even if their actions the first go round with somewhat influenced by Shadow King, he was only playing off what was already there. Whether Jamie knows it or not, he probably wouldn’t have invited her to the team unless one his dupes wanted to go back to that.
Sleeping with M on the other hand– I guess all guys have a side that want manipulative, sarcastic and generally heartless women. Jamie apparently has more than one.
Layla– well, ‘The X-Factor’ might do it. I think though even he has rules– though he doesn’t know it yet. But that wouldn’t be beyond him. Rahne would.
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Well, it did have that “things coming to a head” feeling about it. I don’t get why Jamie would not be a mutant simply because his powers were manifest at birth. The last I heard, it was common for mutant powers to manifest at puberty but it wasn’t universal. Regardless, I would think that the “fact” (we have only Tryp’s word on this) that they used to manifest their powers at birth doesn’t really make them something other than mutants. Maybe I wasn’t paying attention or I’ve missed something (this is the only mutant book I’ve read in about ten years), but that’s how it looks to me at the moment.
**Spoiler-type speculation ahead*****
Speaking of Tryp, I’m now confident that my original hunch about him when he first appeared is correct. “Which Tryp?” you ask. That’s the thing. I’m sure that there’s only one Tryp. The young Tryp “Jr.,” the middle-aged guy, the old guy, they’re all the time traveler at various stages of his life.
It was really good, Peter. I really like how the ongoing storylines are proceeding. I also like the the revelations into Jamie’s childhood. I’m curious as to whether he’ll ever remember Tryp.
Btw, will it eventually be revealed that the name “Tryp” is an abbreviation or distortion of some other word, which gives insight into who Tryp “really” is?
Peter, at WonderCon I spoke to you about Guido and how he doesn’t use the word “blork” anymore. You replied “I forgot about that. I’ll have to have him start saying it again.” Have you been planning Guido’s mind control since then? I’ve pointed out in other forums that Strong Guy’s behavior has been different and more violent since issue #1, so this does seem like something that had been brewing for a while.
“Peter, at WonderCon I spoke to you about Guido and how he doesn’t use the word “blork” anymore. You replied “I forgot about that. I’ll have to have him start saying it again.” Have you been planning Guido’s mind control since then?”
Before then, actually. I was being coy.
PAD
I was right he was being crunchitized… er– I mean Manchurianized. Is he going to go back to calling all the remaining mutants Genetically challenged again?
If ALL mutant powers triggered at puberty wouldn’t that mean Franklin Richards, Artie, Leech and Magneto aren’t mutants?
I had the same thoughts about Tryp and time travel. See, I naturally assumed the y in Tryp is prounounce as an i and not as an e like it generally does. The fact that he called his organization singularity is another clue. Since some theories state that inside naked singularities the last of time break down. However if a singularity were wearing clothes you just go in and don’t come out again. No one knows why.
Doctor Druid was, at one point, able to manifest three temporal aspects of himself at once (youth, mature man, old man), so Tryp could be using a similar ability.
Theory two, Tryp has the Starbrand. 🙂
Theory three, Tryp has a power similar to Jaime’s, but he can only use it once in a while, and it spawns a newborn rather than an adult copy. Or it spawns a fully mature adult regardless of how old the original is.
Tryp –> Triptych –> 3
He’s probably the same man.
Tryp: short for Triplicate?
Really enjoyed this issue. Thought the “killcrop” concept was AWESOME. I think the repercussions of that idea will echo long and far… So glad Guido was apparently “used” as opposed to being in control of himself… Tryp is more interesting by the moment…Jaime, Monet, Quicksilver, all good stuff. I can’t pin it down but recent issues just hadn’t seemed as “must read” for me, but now you’ve scrambled back into my “read first” pile.
Lets not forget the duplicating villain from MardroX who told Jamie he is not a mutant, and in fact has no idea what he is.
>Theory two, Tryp has the Starbrand. 🙂
Good thing these are separate universes, because that would be a Really Bad Thing.
So there is another “type” of mutants. That normally is not a good thing such as with the Xternals and other “hidden” mutants and most of them are removed or erased.
So Guido was mind controlled with a cell phone trigger?
In the spirit of Stephen Colbert, all I have to say is…I CALLED IT!
Honestly? I’m surprised more people *didn’t* call it. I thought it was pretty obvious.
PAD
“I thought it was pretty obvious.”
Isn’t that sort of what Holmes/House tend to say when they see something no average mortal twigs to?
Seemed fairly clear to me, to be honest; Guido gets mysterious phone call, Guido reacts with a strange detachment and slight confusion, Guido suddenly does something shockingly and violently out of character. The dots sort of connect themselves.
Another great issue, Peter. I’m really happy about there being an ongoing storyline that isn’t entirely about the Civil War thing happening at Marvel. I’m really enjoying all the characterizations going on. Few people could make the Layla Miller thing interesting, without it being cloying.
Then again, I’m still giddy about getting to read a monthly comic about Jamie Madrox.
Tryp = 3 but he is the head of Singularity Investigations.. just 1. 🙂
Wonder where Manikin from Alpha Flight falls into this – his ability to split into a protomatter blob, caveman, and future guy.
Until later
John
I said it in another thread here, but I’d like to say it again: X-Factor is the best comic out right now! #10 and #11, which I both read just recently, were excellent. Just great issues! In fact, I need to read them again soon. Just great issues and I can’t wait to see what happens next issue!
Keep it up PAD!
DF2506
Oh, OK, that part, yes. But I thought PAD was referring to it being “obvious” that Guido was mind-controlled BEFORE the incident happened.
For my own personal experience, I’d never seen Guido at all before his appearance in the MaddroX mini. I really had no idea that he was acting out of character. If he goes back to his former way, it might seem weird from my end…
One of the best parts of the book?
The bit about the air conditioner.
My 3 must-read comics this week were X-Factor, Nextwave, and 52.
Sadly, my bank account is very much in the red (or in the parentheses, I guess), so I won’t be able to buy any comics for a while. I’m sure X-Factor is good, though (*sniff!*).
Could a clue be that it isn’t pronounced “trip”. but instead pronounced “tripe”?
“Honestly? I’m surprised more people *didn’t* call it. I thought it was pretty obvious.
PAD”
Like I said, in the spirit of the Colbert Report 🙂
PAD,
I liked it, as expected.
The truth about Guido made sense. I had mixed feelings about it being revealed so quickly. At the same time, I am relieved that he has not changed as much as I feared. (I will have to reread the prior issue. It didn’t make sense to me that it was “mind control” since I did not think they would know the two were in the vehicle at the same time. But I am sure that was covered, I just need to look it up.)
RE: Jamie — Wow. You have taken what was a fun character and made him into a riveting character. I am hooked simply because I want to see where this goes.
Iowa Jim
Excellent issue, but what is up with the Letters page? aside from changing the Next Issue Cover the letters are the same as were printed in issue 10. Was this just an error or the first sign that the letters page is being phased out again?
David Hunt, the old Guido is better. He’s just as funny as this Guido, but more likeable.
“The truth about Guido made sense. I had mixed feelings about it being revealed so quickly.”
I actually had a discussion with the editor about that very thing when he read the script for #11. My reasoning for doing it the way I did was twofold: First, I figured readers were going to expect me to drag it out, so I wanted to confound expectations. And second, X-Factor is supposed to be a detective agency. If one of their own people commits a murder and they don’t figure it out, it makes them seem impotent. By having Guido be unable to fool them for any length of time, it reinforces the notion that they are a force to be reckoned with.
PAD
Not much else to say, besides that I’m still digging it. I’m also looking forward to the reprocussions of Jamie’s dupe’s “busy” night…
Peter David: And second, X-Factor is supposed to be a detective agency. If one of their own people commits a murder and they don’t figure it out, it makes them seem impotent. By having Guido be unable to fool them for any length of time, it reinforces the notion that they are a force to be reckoned with.
Luigi Novi: Well then it’s a good thing that this particular agency has a lycan mutant with heightened senses!
>Luigi Novi: Well then it’s a good thing that this particular agency has a lycan mutant with heightened senses!
Just imagine if she had Mr. Monk’s powers of observation to go along with those heightened senses.
Just imagine if she had Mr. Monk’s powers of observation to go along with those heightened senses.
Rahne was pretty cool this issue. I also liked the “Did she just grab your rump?” moment, even though I’m paraphrasing.
You can pencil me in for the “glad it was discovered almost immediately” crowd. Seeing the reaction to betrayal is almost always more interesting and revealing about characters than seeing them be betrayed. Additionally, this subversion was just too big. For something so important to go some completely wrong and not expose inconsistencies stretches disbelief.
Dave Hunt said:
For my own personal experience, I’d never seen Guido at all before his appearance in the MaddroX mini. I really had no idea that he was acting out of character. If he goes back to his former way, it might seem weird from my end…
Before Peter beats me to it– there was a trade done a year or two ago. Most comic stores and Amazon will have it.
I don’t think they have to dilute the ‘old’ Guido’s sensor of humor just a tad (not much) to fit him to the tone of the book. Otherwise it’d be like shoehorning in characters created for the Teen Titans cartoon into the actual comic books. :0)
Just wanted to say that I am trying to switch over to trades completely, but I can’t do it with X-Factor (or Runaways). It’s too good to not have each month, so thanks.
I like that instead of just writing Rahne flipping out over the smell of blood on Guido, you wrote it as something that Jamie watched happen. For some reason that was cool.
And about the previous issue, I meant to ask you this– was there a reason Jamie needed not even to ask Rahne if they’d just spent the night together? Or did he, perhaps behind the scenes? I got a real kick out of the fact that he had to ask Layla but with Rahne, we just have no idea. I kid myself that you are toying with some of us…not too long ago the you had her hitting on Jamie big time (in the older X-Factor, when she was still suffering from Genoshan tampering).
Loving the series.
Rahnefan- I think Rahne was interested in Jamie in the old series simply because she was in heat (and maybe because he was the closest to his age). Outside of that single issue in Genosha (Ibelieve it was #88) she has nevver shown interest in Jamie in a romantic sense.
I know, Alex, but still…that silence was loud.
I still thought Gudio was a Skrull and I’m hoping for a Skrull-infused twist about 10 issues down the line. If there’s anything more Marvel comics needs, its Skrulls. Lots of ’em.
Aside from the Gudio stuff, I’ve been really digging the heart of this arc, which is linking up Mr. Tryp (all of them, even Mister Wizard. Hopiing for a good explanation of it) and how its tied in with Jamie’s past. There’s a bunch of head-screw moments throughout. I thought the explanation that Jamie is a sort of proto-mutant was way cool. Truthfully, back in the Madrox mini when it was hinted that Jamie was Something More, I thought he was a space alien.
Dammit, back to the Skrulls again.
Anyway, good issue. The art is okay, but the artist shifting is giving me a headache and kind of distrupting the storyline’s flow. I can’t wait until Pablo R. jumps back on in issue #13. His work on the mini was The Shiznit.
Once again another great issue, and I look forward to issue #14 cause the cover looks great.
But I do have a question about Siryn, I’ve seen on some sites that people are complaining about the Siryn/Madrox situation, and saying how Warpath/Siryn “almost” couple is the only one for her etc. standard fanboy/girl stuff. But I’m curious as to your views on Warpath/Siryn stuff that happened in X-Force, way back when, and will it ever come up in X-Factor?
Thanks for at least taking the time to read this.
Rahnefan
And about the previous issue, I meant to ask you this– was there a reason Jamie needed not even to ask Rahne if they’d just spent the night together? Or did he, perhaps behind the scenes?
I think both Peter and Dematies have covered this before. Both of them were at Muir Island (for as briefly as Rahne was supposed to have been there) but they were there around the same time and say Moira as a mother figure. Give the age difference it’d be easy to how Jamie could see her as his kid sister. Banshee and Moira were involved at the time but Siryn was closer to his age and he didn’t have to be protective of her. Plus, there is a difference between sleeping with your sister and sleeping with your hot stepsister. (It’s not illegal, but it is still frowned upon.)
Also with Rhane it may have been pushing it, I fear the other guys on X-Factor would quit if Madrox had sex with all the women, who were not jailbait ;).
Also with Rhane it may have been pushing it, I fear the other guys on X-Factor would quit if Madrox had sex with all the women, who were not jailbait ;).
I don’t think Guido would quit. Given Rahne’s (relative) sensitivity and at least Old Guido’s protectiveness of her– I could see him trying to beat the crap out of the other Jamies for screwing around with Siryn and M at the same time. Which would somewhat hypocritical since Guido ENCOURAGED Jamie to have those type of evenings (at least during the Legacy arc.)
I think Rahne and Jamie are in the “friend zone” at the moment. Jamie, dupe or not, probably knew instinctively not to go there. Too much respect. I suspect we’ll find out for sure later.
I don’t know whether Jamie’s dupe would have had any problems with seducing Rahne, but I do think he knew that Rahne would have shot him down hard if he’d tried. Just my impression.
Madrox pops up in the most unexpected places. Like the 12th paragraph of this hip-hop feature from the Washington City Paper:
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/arts/2006/artcov0908.html?navCenterBotImg
Scott Iskow:
I think Rahne and Jamie are in the “friend zone” at the moment. Jamie, dupe or not, probably knew instinctively not to go there. Too much respect. I suspect we’ll find out for sure later.
Rahne had a thing for him when she was jumped up on Genoshia juice. (The imfamous: ‘I have to go to the Multiple Mens room’ moment.) I think at least one of the dupes even made a comment about being hit on by his little sister.
I still think Douglock would make a better guest star than Shatterstar.
I hear and already thought of that stuff, guys, but what are we saying here? That Jamie is so ethical or whatever that not a one of his dupes (each of which are expressing varied, extreme, and often conflicting aspects of Jamie’s “personality”) would have slept with Rahne, but regarding 13-year-old Layla, he’s not so sure? That’s saying something right there.
rahnefan said:
I hear and already thought of that stuff, guys, but what are we saying here? That Jamie is so ethical or whatever that not a one of his dupes (each of which are expressing varied, extreme, and often conflicting aspects of Jamie’s “personality”) would have slept with Rahne, but regarding 13-year-old Layla, he’s not so sure? That’s saying something right there.
The mind is easily trained to see certain people, particualarly ones we’ve known a long time in a certain way and it seems natural. We grow emotional comfortable with the way things are. Change threatens the comfort zone. That’s why people (as a general rule) don’t like to change.
Sleeping with Siryn was a natural thing for Jamie to do. She was (as far as we know) his first love and he’s slept with her before. Even if their actions the first go round with somewhat influenced by Shadow King, he was only playing off what was already there. Whether Jamie knows it or not, he probably wouldn’t have invited her to the team unless one his dupes wanted to go back to that.
Sleeping with M on the other hand– I guess all guys have a side that want manipulative, sarcastic and generally heartless women. Jamie apparently has more than one.
Layla– well, ‘The X-Factor’ might do it. I think though even he has rules– though he doesn’t know it yet. But that wouldn’t be beyond him. Rahne would.