In “The Onion’s” trade paperback collection that essentially operated as if the gag newspaper had been around for over a century, one of the most memorable articles was about the moon landing. The headline was something along the lines of “HOLY SHÍT, WE LAND ON FÙÇKÍNG MOON!” and the entire article was written with that same sense of over-the-top incredulity. They literally can’t believe it.
In the spirit of that article…
Holy fûçkìņg šhìŧ, Michael fûçkìņg shot Ana Lucia and Libby, son of a bìŧçh, he capped them both, and then gave himself a self-inflicted wound to cover his ášš! Either he’s flipped over to the Others, or he’s doing whatever he can to drive his own people into war with the Others, but I’m thinking the former is the more likely. Jesus! My fûçkìņg jaw is on the fûçkìņg ground! I mean, I should have realized it since Michelle Rodriguez is doing jail time while they’re filming the season ender and the producers expressed no concern over it. Now we know why: Michael FÙÇKÍNG SHOT Ana-Lucia and Libby! SON OF A BÍTÇH! SON OF A…HOLY SHÍT, I did NOT see that coming.
SHÍT!!!
PAD
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One of these days i have to actually watch an episode or two of “Lost”.
(We have no teevee at our current location.)
I mean, it would be nice to be able to at least be aware of the characters’ names when i run across articles like this, unlike ones about shows like “Taxi” and “Seinfeld”, where i never had the faintest idea who any of them were, except through occasional media references.
(I mean, my total first-hand knowledge of “Seinfeld” comes through seeing a five-minute clip of the “Soup Nazi” sequence and the final episode, and that’s fine with me, but “Lost” at least sounds interesting.)
Didn’t see it coming, but it seemed to me that Libby only received a bullet to the belly because she walked in at the wrong time. Michael seemed to shot her even before he fully turned to see who it was. Ana Lucia may or may not have been an assigned kill for him, but my hypothesis is that he found the Others and they told him that they’d released Walt if he got their man back.
**By the way. Prison Break sucked me in bigtime this week too. It seems as though this is the week for big moments and/or shake-ups.
I had the same reaction. I mean, I was shocked when he shot Ana, but then when he shot, Libby, my jaw hit the floor. He shot her twice too! I think Michael did make a deal and Ana’s death was part of it. It’s in retaliation for what she did to two of the others.
The flashback was pretty shocking too. I mean, Ana was Jack’s dad’s bodyguard? And they both ran into Sawyer? I mean, WTF? I also thought they were going to reveal that Claire was Jack’s dad’s child.
One question, though, was is anything Michael saying about the Others the truth? It seems to fly in in the face of everything else we’ve seen, but it’s not like Lost hasn’t done this sort of thing before.
Half of the tailies taken out in one scene. I’d never have believed it.
I had the exact same reaction this morning while posting on the ep on another board. Ho-lee Sh*t!
Per usual, the last five minutes were the best! I literally gasped out loud!
Do you think Michael was brain-washed OR do you think he did it under duress … like they said he had to do it to get Walt back?
Could be either way but I’m leaning toward the Walt issue.
And didn’t he shoot Henry Gale as well????
Where as I’m hoping that it’s Ana Lucia who’s the one who’s dead on the next ep. (because she’s a witch, I hate her!), I’m afraid it might be Libby. (Though that would suck because I wanna know her story!)
They made it *look* like it was Ana, but they also like to trick us.
As far as Ana and Jack’s Dad that was a bit of a shock, but we already knew that Jack’s Dad had met Sawyer in that bar so that wasn’t a surprise. Just cool to see them all intersecting again. OH and it looks like Jack has a sister … do you think SHE might be on the island??? hmmmmm
AND I have to say, that scene where Sawyer and Ana Lucia wrestle … then get it on, was hot! (despite the fact I dislike both of them.) As soon as they started wrestling on the ground I said “uh oh”, and ya just knew how it was gonna end.
(OT)
If you can find a copy of the audio edition of the Onion’s “Our Dumb Century,” they have a clip of the mission control audio of the moon landing.
Completely in character astronaut unflappable voices, saying stuff like
“Tranquility base here, the Eagle has landed. On. The. Fûçkìņg. Moon. Over”
“Ah, roger that, Apollo 11. The fûçkìņg moon. Over”
“That’s one small step for a man, one giant fûçkìņg leap for mankind. On the FÙÇKÍNG MOON. Control, can you believe this šhìŧ, over”
“That’s an affirmative. Holy šhìŧ. Over”
“Do you think Michael was brain-washed OR do you think he did it under duress … like they said he had to do it to get Walt back?”
Oops sorry. I see that PAD asked exactly the same questions. I was so excited to talk about the episode, I musta skimmed that!
I think he is with the others. The division of people on the plane is being hinted at as well. The past revealed is relating to the abductions (I think they are dead by the way), attacks, and all the rest is directly tied to the past sins or mistakes that were committed and it just warps the mind trying to wrap around that.
Libby was the BIG shock. I saw the Anna Lucia shot coming. What about Hurley??? And the scenes from next week, Echo going over the cliff.
A question? If there is some healing nature to the island, example of Locke and the African American woman whose name escapes me, then why can’t these that are shot or injured be healed?
I hope I didn’t break any spoiler rules, this is the first time I have replied on a TV topic. Prison Break got me like the previous poster.
Whether Michael has flipped over to the Others is going to be revealed by whether Henry is dead or not. If Henry has “escaped,” then Michael to the their side (either willingly or brainwashed, probably the latter), is lying about the Others living in tents and being worse off than they, and is planning to lead the vengeance-burning islanders into an ambush that could result in the lot of them being annihilated.
If he killed Henry, then what he said about them being depleted is likely true, he convinced himself that killing Ana-Lucia was just because she killed what’s-her-name, was startled into killing Libby, and is still planning to lead the islanders in a charge against the Others to get his son back.
The first scenario makes more sense to me.
PAD
My jaw dropped and my toes curled. That ending blew me away. Now it makes me almost wonder if Micheal has been one of the Others all along. I’m guessing the next Michael flashback will reveal that (and I’m guessing that flashback will be next week).
When Henry Gale was talking about the Leader of the Others it made me wonder if we had seen this leader. Now I wonder, could it be Michael?
Even if everything he did was for Walt, it is still unforgivable. The Others wouldn’t kill Walt. If someone told me I had to kill someone or I would never see my child again (but my child would live) I couldn’t do it.
As for Libby, she has to be dead. If she isn’t, then she would tell them Michael shot her. She didn’t even get her own flashback episode. If Libby dies, then I want Michael in a pine box as well.
Yes, yes that’s right! (I forgot that Libby was an accidental shooting, and it was.)
I think I was so shocked after he shot Ana & Libby, I didn’t take in all that happened afterwards. But he did fire the gun into the vault where Henry was, right? We just don’t know if he hit him or not.
My gut is still telling me he’s doing it under duress rather than brain washing. Although, like you said, he justified Ana Lucia because of Shannon, he still had tears in his eyes and said he was sorry …
Perhaps he is doing it willingly in some kind of misguided attempt to get Walt back … like he pretended to be brainwashed, did what he could to make it look like he fell under their spell then is gonna do what you said- lead the rest back to kill who ever’s there.
“As for Libby, she has to be dead. If she isn’t, then she would tell them Michael shot her”
Good point. I kinda think she is too, like I said earlier, they made it look like on next week’s episode that Ana was dead, but they I never trust those previews.
Unless Libby’s unconcious till they figure out what Micheal’s up too …
Course they BOTH might be dead.
Interesting proposition that Michael might have been with the other’s all along, but unlikely. I’m telling you, he honestly looked upset about killing Ana …
I had the same reaction as PAD.
If you watched Alias too, there were a lot of dead women at the hands of JJ Abrams last night.
I don’t think he was brainwashed–he was genuinely sorry. Maybe he’s been infected and has to do this to save his own skin.
Man, is this one show you do NOT want to pìšš øff the producers on or what? Morton Downey JR and Tome Sizemore wouldn’t last a week.
Sorry to disappoint all the Libby fans out there…but Ana was the BIG shock…the actress that plays Libby has already signed to star in a CBS sitcom…I knew she was about to bite it…but Ana getting shot floored me…
My thought is Libby is not dead because her back-story has not been completely told. For a couple, on and off, episodes, the hints of Hurly trying to determine where he’s seen Libby before would seem pretty anticlimactic if she dead when he remembers. Unlike Ana, whose back-story they wrapped up in this episode, and seemed to be more of a supporting character once they reached the main cast, so killing her off has a strong effect to advance the storyline, but does not seem pointless by killing off one of the main characters.
By the way…here is the link in case anyone is interested about “Libby” jumping ship to CBS…
http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,18835,00.html
Michael didn’t shoot Henry. He opened the door to the vault, and stepped inside. Henry stood up. Michael pointed the gun at Henry, then turned it on himself, firing at his upper chest/shoulder area.
Fade to black.
As to his motivations, I don’t think he was always one of the Others. The more probable scenario is that he’s determined to get Walt back by any means necessary. The irony, of course, is that he doesn’t know Jack and Ana Lucia had already begun talking about training an army to take on the Others.
Why’d he shoot Ana Lucia? I don’t believe it was due to any “agreement” with the Others concerning Walt’s safe return. I think it was either A) partial payback for trying to stop him from searching for Walt and/or the death of Shannon (though the latter’s pretty remote as a possibility), and/or B) because she happened to be in the room with him, and he decided that it was a worthwhile sacrifice if it got the rest of the group to go after the Others and rescue Walt (and, in the real world, C, to explain Michelle Rodriquez’ absence while she serves jail time). Had she given him the combination, then gone off for a walk, I don’t think Michael would have gone after her. He’d have gone ahead and shot himself, implicating Henry.
Rick
“But he did fire the gun into the vault where Henry was, right?”
ok, a co-worker said Michael *didn’t* shoot into the vault, although that’s what everyone thought he was gonna do.
Sorry posted that before you answered Rick, thanks!
Sorry posted that before you answered, Rick, thanks!
ffs, three times? having a bit of problem posting here …
Libby was shot in the stomach and through the couple of heavy, military-type blankets she was carrying. I get the impression that the blankets blunted the bullets’ force enough that she’s lingering in a coma, unable to pin Michael for the nonce.
I think Michael did it under duress rather than brainwashing. If he was brainwashed, I can’t see him telling Ana he was sorry before shooting her. Also, did anybody notice the sound of the gun shaking in his hand as he stared at Henry? I thought that was a nice, subtle touch to indicate his reluctance.
Hasn’t been mentioned here, but in the “next week” previews, there’s a brief image of Michael with his left arm in a sling, and in the episode itself, when he holds the gun up towards Gale, just before he fires it, he turns it to the left. I thought he was going to shoot himself (suicide) but now, I think he gave himself a self-inflicted wound in the left arm (hope he’s a “rightie”) as a cover-up (“Oh, my god, he shot the women dead and I got hit but he got away!!!!! Honest!”) and let Gale go.
I’ll miss both the women. Ana Lucia was interesting if not heartwarming, but Libby was (seemingly) a sweetie. Now we’ll never know if she really liked Hurley (as a former fat guy, it’d be nice) or if there was something else going on. And, sadly, neither will Hurley, but I hope we get to see if he endeared himself to her in some way when they were both in the hospital. (Did anyone notice if she reacted when he mentioned watching the Flintstones at the hospital? I didn’t tape the show last night.)
That is (thankfully) all.
I’m trying to recall what the previews for the next episode revealed about Michael. All I can recall is that the showed him standing against a wall with his arm in a sling with the camera moving progressively closer to him.
If that’s an actual scene from the episode, maybe it’s showing him standing in the vault for some reason. And if he’s in the vault, maybe its because the rest of the Lost-ies figure out what he’s done and imprision him there like they did “Henry.”
So maybe Libby survives the gunshots, heals enough to tell folks that Michael shot her and Ana, and then they imprison him. (By this theory, it’d also be possible that Ana-Lucia survives and tells folks, but the actress is already in the press talking about how her character died.)
Or maybe I’m grasping at straws, but, man, I want to see Libby’s backstory–what the heck was she doing in the nut-house with Hurley??
Other compelling elements of the episode:
* The fake advertisement for the Hanso Foundation (if you missed it, you can see it on http://www.thehansofoundation.org/ ) with the toll-free number. Did anyone call it and get through? Anything interesting happen?
* “Henry” telling Locke that he was coming, on behalf of The Others, for him. Not that “Henry” is particularly trustworthy, but it’s obvious that The Others have some means of classifying the survivors as (in their eyes) “good” (like the kids and, apparently, Locke) or “bad” (like Ana-Lucia.) It’s interesting to speculate how they make this determination. (For instance, I don’t think Locke has killed anyone, unlike many of the Losties; maybe that’s part of the determination.)
What a ride…
Anyone notice the commercial for the Hanso Foundation? And has anyone called 1-877-hansorg and gotten through? The number has been continually busy.
Great minds think alike. Posted my message at the same time as Ali.
Whoooooeeee!!!That was a jaw dropper for sure.Both shootings caught me flat footed.I think Micheal was turned by Others with a promise to reunite him with Walt.
He is setting them up for a slaughter if you ask me.
Ðámņ I cant wait til next week.As someone posted earlier this has beena good week of TV.
Prison Break
Lost
Invasion
All good this week.
Why do they want Locke????Also Jack has a sister?!HMMM???
I’m having the complete and opposite reaction most others are having here… The way LOST ended pretty much killed the show for me. I probably will finish the season, but odds are I may not return because they killed off 2 of my favorite characters in one (actually 3) shot.
Also, I don’t understand how everyone was so surprised in how it ended. By how Michael was describing the Others (being in tents, etc.) was in and of itself a HUGE reveal that he had flipped to their side. His description went against everything that Claire and Kate had discovered in the other (Others’?) hatch area. (Fake beards and ratty clothes in a locker.)
I realised something was wrong with Michael, given that what he said about the others being simple folk worse off than they were made no sense given the clues dropped in the Clare episode that they were just wearing the clothes and the fake beard to appear like they were savages when they seemed to be more like scientists so I figured Michael had been brainwahed or something but holy hëll i did not see the death of Libby comiing. I gueesed what Michael was gonna do to Ana the moment he said “I’m sorry” but yikes, definitely one of the most unexpected endings of all time!
I must say that I saw the death on Anna coming (rumours were that she was a prima donna on set and coupled with the drunk driving charges….) but Libby etc…. yes, to use my British wife’s term, I was GOBSMACKED. It’s great that a show which seems to just keep running through the numbers can throw a curveball from time to time for those who are faithful watchers.
So… when does Pete do a book based on the show (OH, someone had to ask!)
Another but if fun from the episode was Sawyer’s “I’m walking here!” appearance in the Ana-Lucia flashback.
So…if Michael was sent back–because he’s been brainwashed/controlled/coerced by The Others–to free “Henry”, and if whether-or-not-you’ve-killed-someone is a parameter by which The Others deem who is “good”, perhaps by committing this/these murder(s), Michael’s blown his status with The Others, so perhaps he can’t go back to them and certainly can’t be trusted among the Lost-aways either.
What is going on on this island!
Well, with Libby’s death this leaves open and interesting door for next season as it was shown in the Hurley episode she was pretty much anchoring him to reality. With the trauma of losing her as a springboard to all sorts of mass halucinations that could now head their way. I think the rest of this season will be dealing with the repercussions of Michael’s actions and a confrontation with the Others. I did not see Anna’s death coming until Mike apologized to her when he took the gun and I think that the Other’s are using Walt against him in their big game/experiment. I think Henry, who has shown himself to be an exemplary liar, could be the head honcho himself. I, for one, can’t wait to see what the rest of the season holds, even if Cynthia Watros hunniest of the hunnies, is no longer a part of it.
Didn’t see it coming too far in advance, but as soon as Ana said Sawyer had all the guns and Michael repeated the line I turned to my wife and said “Uh, oh.” Then Michael notes that Ana has a gun and asks her the combination. “Bad idea,” I said.
Libby suprised me. But then she seemed to suprise Michael as well and his shooting of her seemed to me to be reactive rather than thought out. Not sure if he’s brain washed in some way (although conscious of it given his apology and obvious reluctance) or just coerced.
Given his reaction to shooting Libby and shaky hands when facing Henry, I don’t think he’s thrown in with the Others in any willing way.
I’m terribly sorry, but I just ran into this lovely translator today: http://ssshotaru.homestead.com/files/aolertranslator.html
and I couldn’t help but put the second half of PAD’s post through it:
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>>Then Michael notes that Ana has a gun and asks her the combination. “Bad idea to give it to him,” I said.
Actually, if you watch carefully, Libby is shot twice in the blankets she’s carrying, and there’s no blood. There’s a beat as she looks shocked, then half a second later, she drops. My take is that there’s something she’s got in the blankets (or the blankets themselves are so heavy) that she’s shocked by the impact but not dead. As soon as she parses what’s going on, she drops down to fake it because she knows Michael is going to cap her again if he realizes she’s not kaput. Every scene of Libby after he shoots her has zero blood and the bullet holes in the blanket are clean. There’s a red herring of water dropping behind her and pooling, but a close inspection says to me that there’s no blood there either.
I’m guessing that Michael is brainwashed or doing what he’s been told to get Walt back. I mean, Jack was sitting there basically telling the Others, “Hey, we’ve got your guy, can you please find the easiest way to trick us into letting you have him back?” Those sneaky Others (I mean, how long has Henry been playing Locke? “Ooh, why do you let Jack walk all over you, *puppet-hands, puppet-hands*”) figure they can use Mike to get Henry back and so they offer him Walt to betray his friends. On the other hand, he’s so jerky with his motions that a bit of brainwashing seems likely as well.
But, back to my point, I’m guessing Libby’s still okay.
And this answers my question as to why they didn’t do the Michael-flashback-to-his-last-few-weeks episode right away.
Doug
I think Michael is with the others. I also think he was told that Ana Lucia had to die. That was Henry’s mission, Michael was sent to finish the job. He is doing it all for Walt. Everything about him this season has been for Walt.
Still, next week’s teaser was intense. Michael in the sling. Echo going over the cliff. The sense that evil and good are going to have a smackdown. Intense.
You know the JJ being hard on women last night was right Alias and Lost both had high female bodycounts.
Scott Bierworth SAID: If someone told me I had to kill someone or I would never see my child again (but my child would live) I couldn’t do it.
That is interesting as I would kill the person and their pet to save my children.
Very good – I was hoping there’d be a Cowboy Pete about this; ’cause, yeah, with the mind-blowing.
For a while, this wasn’t necessarily one of my favorite recent episodes – some things seemed occasionally clumsy or obvious to me. (The only example which comes to mind right now is Ana raising the gun at Henry, saying she’s going to shoot him – and of course, it goes to commercial. But, that may just have been TOO obvious a commercial cue to NOT use, I suppose.) But by the end… WOW. (Better expressed by PAD above, of course 😉 ) Like most people here, I did NOT see that coming with Michael until the second he looked at Ana, distrought, and said “I’m sorry.” Made me say “Oh no…” or somesuch out loud, I think. I do think he was really surprised at Libby showing up and at the time I thought he accidentally shot her, though the fact that she could be a witness didn’t occur to me til later. We all seem to have had pretty similar thoughts about his motives – probably under coercion trying to get Walt back, or possibly brainwashing – he definitely seems to have been under the influence of SOMEthing, from the drugged-ish state he was in when found. And yeah, I do think that was a self-inflicted cover-up wound at the end, though deliberately edited a little ambiguously.
It does look like Ana Lucia is dead – I hadn’t heard about trouble on the set OR jail time, though now the drunk driving arrest rings a possible faint bell, so I didn’t have any reason to see it coming myself. In retrospect, it is the same treatment Shannon got – final flashback ep tying up her past (and, heh, Ana meeting Jack’s dad does add another interesting puzzle piece); but the last time that I was actually worried that the flashback-of-the-night person was in danger of getting killed was during John/Locke’s last flashback episode. But I also am hoping that Libby survived (despite this news of a new show for Cynthia Watros. Really, with how infrequently she’s appeared at times this season, they might be able to work around a second gig, if they wanted to… And I’ve been pleasantly surprised, BTW, to read how many people here are into the character. I’ve been aware of Watros for years, so I was pre-disposed to pay attention to Libby [even if I sometimes have a mental block with her name]; but I wasn’t sure whether, with the hit-and-miss appearances, that many people would really care about the character. Glad to see that they do 🙂 ). Michael really wasn’t even aiming when he shot her, I don’t think; and as mentioned, she did have the blankets, or something, between her and the bullets (though one bullet aced Shannon qucikly enough…). Maybe, as suggested, she will remain unconscious long enough for Michael to pull off the Others’ plan; because, if they do kill her off now, that really does waste the potential of her untold story. She’s never even had a flashback episode – which had me seriously wondering if SHE was an Other plant until she made the appearance at the end of Hurley’s flashback.
Speaking of the hospital – Jeffrey R. Lindholm, it looked to me like she did have a reaction to Hurley’s mention of it. Just a quick – not even quite a wince – an askew look? – which she did quickly try to cover up, of course; but the mention did make her nervous.
I will be disappointed if they kill off Echo – though, actually, the fact that he appears to be in dire peril in the preview may actually make it less likely that he’ll die, since they like to come so out of left field with the killing. He is usually an interesting character; and, it would be disappointing, if Libby does die, if they just slaughter all the second season characters at the end of that season.
But, they are doing such a great job with this ride – I thought Ana Lucia and “Tom” might have pulled up in front of the bar in which he met Sawyer, though I wasn’t expecting them to bump into him in quite that way; who is Jack’s sister?; how many freakin’ people on this island are connected to Jack? – that I’m optimistic that they can keep things going nicely.
It does look like Ana Lucia is dead – I hadn’t heard about trouble on the set OR jail time, though now the drunk driving arrest rings a possible faint bell, so I didn’t have any reason to see it coming myself.
Well, look, Michelle Rodriguez (the actress who plays Ana-Lucia) was on Good Morning America this morning talking about how she had been hired for only a limited run of episodes, so she knew her time on the show was finite.
If you take her at her word, the real-world drunk driving stuff is just coincidental, that it’s not that the creators killed off her character because the actress got into a bit of difficulty, which jibes with a TVGuide.com interview with creators at http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=700001362
(Of course, you may or may not take these folks at their word, but that’s a whole ‘nother thing…)
One minor pet peeve here I need to mention: The character’s name is Mr. EKO! Not Echo….
Thank you.
Now back to our regularly scheduled PAD.net
Yeah I saw the Hanso Foundation commercial…
called the number and got through.
Very creepy.
it takes you to a message service where you can “contact” the various heads of the company/organization. Each member has a little blurb and is interrupted by others…
basically it gives you a password to get into the Hanso webpage…
Amazing ending. Considering most shows telegraph when someone dies way too far in advance, this came as a complete shock.
My money says Michael was brainwashed. Considering how Claire’s memory was swiss-cheesed after she was taken, it’s pretty clear that the Others are good at brainwashing. The shooting scene reminded me a lot of THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, where the unknowing assassin first kills his target, then someone who happens to walk in on the killing. Finally, no matter how much Michael fears for Walt’s safety, it seems very unlikely that Michael would sacrifice all of his friends, then hope that the Others happen to be true to their word.
What are they feeding the Others, anyway? Henry had been shot, was on a hunger strike, and he would have taken down Ana had Locke not interfered? And last season we saw Ethan lift Charlie off the ground with one hand! Maybe the Others are developing the Super-Soldier serum.
And maybe it’s hindsight, but Michael’s story about how few and weak the Others are seemed pretty flimsy. The Others have access to the Hatches (they inhabited at least one) and medicine (when they took Claire), they have proven to be master hunters (stealing people away from the group) and strategists (sending Ethan and Hank as spies, ambushing Jack and co. and getting a lot of guns) — and Michael happens to know that they’re weak and poorly organized? For that matter, how did they think Michael escaped with the bag over his head?
I guess I’m one of a kind right now. As soon as I heard Michaels story I knew he had been turned some how. The rest was so predictable that I could barely watch it. Lost started out very interesting, lots of questions and few answers. As of now no real answers are comming forward just worthless twists and turns. Unless the season finish starts giving some hope for answers I will probable give it up as a show going nowhere.
One other thing that struck me as odd. We know that Ana Lucia got the gun from Sawyer after canoodling with him in the woods, but how and when? Did she have it when she walked off and left him lying there? If so, how come he reached for it in the back waistband of his pants when jack pulled the other one on him and said something like, “That bìŧçh!” If I had a gun stuffed into the back of my pants, I’d know it was there or not. Guns are heavy and the barrel would be poking into his butt. It’s not like he forgot his wallet or didn’t notice the gun wasn’t in the backpack or something. He’d have known it wasn’t there. So, how’d that work?????
Nope. While composing my post on the episode at Nitcentral.com, I wrote this, before the last Act aired:
Does anyone here believe Mike’s story for even a second? Given what we learned of the Others from episodes like Maternity Leave, the only question is motive. The obvious guess for me is that the Others captured him, and made a deal for Walt with him, telling him that they’d give Walt back to him if he lured the other castaways to them.
Looks like I may have been on the right track.
Well, now I certainly wasn’t expecting that Hanso Foundation spot during the last commercial break. So far, the creators have created websites and released manuscripts to tie into the show as a bit of an in-joke, but I didn’t think they’d actually air a commercial that takes up airtime.
But the “Six Degrees of Lost” bit in the flashbacks is beginning to feel a bit gratuitous. I mean geez, is there anyone who hasn’t bumped into Jack’s dad on this island?
For that matter, are there any two castaways that haven’t met each other prior to Flight 815? Now we learn that Sawyer bumped into Christian Shepard twice, once alone and once with Ana? Sheesh.
However, I don’t buy the idea that Ana-Lucia was written off because of Rodriguez’s jail time. I mean, are they really gonna scrap all the plans they had for the character just because she is in jail for five days? I mean, can’t they shoot around that? If anything, I find it far more logical to believe that Cynthia Watros’ having filmed a fall pilot is a sign that she’d get written out, as well as the fact that she’s been mostly a cipher. On the other hand, the revelation about her at the end of Dave goes against this, as well as the fact that Hurley is still going on about where he recognizes her.
In addition, in the next-week promo, Kate says, “She’s dead”, instead of “they’re dead.” Why is this? Aren’t they both dead? Moreover, Hurley didn’t seem too bothered by this, telling someone that he’s glad that they’re okay.
I’m going to miss seing Michelle Rodriguez regularly on TV. Ðámņ she’s easy on the eyes and the non-girly-yet-not-butch style really works.
I spent most of last night mumbling “Holy šhìŧ” to myself. That was one of the most shocking turns I’ve ever seen on TV.
It reminded me of Buffy and Angel for some reason, the way Whedon and crew could have you thinking one thing and then blow your mind with a turn that fit, but came from a blindspot.
I don’t think Michael turned, though.
I think he’s lying about the Others. I think he saw the way they’re living and got SCARED of them. Whatever he saw, it scared him, it left him unable to cope and he came back to get help because he knew he stood no chance at getting his son back alone.
He’s cracked, though. Batshit, psychotic crazy.
>> But the “Six Degrees of Lost” bit in the flashbacks is beginning to feel a bit gratuitous. I mean geez, is there anyone who hasn’t bumped into Jack’s dad on this island?
The way he was going on about fate with Ana Lucia, and the fact that Jack’s seen him on the island, leads me to believe that the other people all meeting him isn’t just being thrown in for the sake of “isn’t it cool that he met these people?” but instead tying into the mystery of the island.
I think Michael was told that Walt would be released if he freed the prisoner. Which means that the Others must be pretty formidable if he felt there was no other way.
I actually did see it coming, a split-second before it happened. It was either the moment Michael stared at the gun, or the moment he said “I’m sorry.” And then I said aloud, “He’s going to shoot her.” And then he did.
But then again, I was sure they were going to kill Locke two episodes ago, but he got away with both his legs intact, albeit injured. I guess this show has me constantly expecting that the worst will happen.
Another moment of bizarre serendipity. When Ana Lucia drops off “Tom,” I said, “Is this where he meets Sawyer?” And lo and behold.
Heh. Tom and Sawyer. Cute.
I’m probably a very annoying person to watch the show with.