Purely a guess, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we actually have a Bush landslide.
If and when that happens, Bush should be sure to send bin Laden a nice fruit basket. Because for the first nine months, Bush’s presidency was a joke. Then the towers fell, and he was no less a joke than before, but people became afraid to laugh.
It is amazing that Bush can make 9/11 the centerpiece of his campaign without the vast majority of Americans saying, “Hey, wait…that happened on your watch, didn’t it? And the guy who did it is still out there, but we’re supposed to feel safer with you in charge? What’s up with THAT?” It’s like the people of South Park strangely feeling safer when Officer Barbrady is running things. And yet polls show they do. Of course, a poll also showed that 75% of Bush’s supporters believe Saddam had WMDs and 72% think Saddam was connected with 9/11. So you just get the feeling a lot of people aren’t paying attention.
In any event, I think the only reason that people are undecided is because they know in their hearts that Bush is lame, but they haven’t brought themselves to embrace Kerry. So my guess is that the undecideds will just stay home, and that should pretty much be the ball game.
Still, it’ll be interesting to see what the gargantuan scandals will be that rock the Bush administration in the next four years, and by what point the American people will get fed up being fed the language of fear. In the meantime, so much for stem cell research, and God only knows what the Supreme Court will be like four years from now.
PAD
(Peter, would you like to bet cash on that? I have $10 for the CBLDF that says Kerry wins decisively. –GH)
(Fine by me, Glenn. Me, I’m guessing it’s never too soon to start printing up those “Don’t blame me, I voted for Kerry” bumper stickers we should be needing in the next few years.–PAD)
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Second no-brainer prediction–after winning by, at most, 3 or 4 percentage points (and quite likely far less) the winner will claim a mandate and pundits will treat the loser as though they were tarred, feathered and ridden out of town on a rail. Sort of like how the Superbowl loser becomes synonymous with the word “loser” when, after all, they beat every team but one.
Well, since that’s what Bush actually did (with a far smaller margin), that’s not much, even for a no brainer.
Until it can adequately be explained how matter self created from nothing, why can’t intelligent design be presented in schools as one theory?
Because it ISN’T a theory.
Intelligent design has no ongoing reasearch program, has laid out no interesting questions or hypotheses to guide research and has not been able to organize facts in an interesting way to suggest new insights. Without that, intelligent design isn’t even an hypothesis (let alone a theory) and shouldn’t even be mentioned in a science classroom.
Last chance everyone! Cthuhlu/Yoggoth ’04. “When you’re tired of voting for the lesser of two evils.”
As per the ’93 WTC bombing, the last I heard was that the individuals responsible for the act were apprehended during Clinton’s years. The Cole attack was handled swiftly as well.
Someone makes fun of people who can’t find Afganistan on a map and no one makes fun of comments such as these? The Cole attack was NOT handled swiftly. In fact, much there was very little response because it happened so close to the transition between the Clinton and Bush presidency.
So we caught the people who did the ’93 bombing? The true people behind it were still in place and carried out 9-11. That is like saying we caught 3 hitmen but left the mafia king in power. Is that really handling the situation? No, it is just leaving the threat in place to strike again — as actually happened.
Look, I can understand someone supporting Kerry because he is pro-choice, for raising the minimum wage, and other Democratic talking points. But the rewriting of history, the unwillingness to look at the actual threat of terroism is not just a Republican problem as some of you seem to think.
Yeah, I did. Because that incident didn’t happen on American soil. And it’s truly WISHFUL THINKING that 9/11 would have been prevented if America had taken a more proactive stance towards this situation. More likely, we’d have ended up with the mess we currently have now in Iraq much sooner.
This is the kind of thinking that scares me. If I am understanding it right, KET’s approach would only lead to further attacks.
First, to say the attack on the USS Cole does not bother/frighten her (or him) because it was not on US territory is idiotic. (Sorry to be so harsh, but it is.) While a warship is not the same as an embassy, there is no question that it is an extension of the US. Such an attack is clearly an attack on the US and is an act of war. If someone feels free to attack a heavily armed warship, why would they fear some unarmed towers?
Second, if it was wishful thinking that we could have not stopped 9-11, why do PAD and other Democrats or anti-bush people like to remind us 9-11 happened on Bush’s watch? You can’t have it both ways. Either it could have been stopped, or not.
Third, the point of acting sooner would be to avoid another Iraq. But if another Iraq was necessary to stop 9-11, would it not be worth it? Frankly, this is why some of you scare me. You don’t seem to realize that in a few hours in one day more Americans were killed on 9-11 than happened in a year and a half of war in Iraq.
There is no doubt we Bush could have done some things better. So could have any past President. But it is an outright lie to say we are losing in Afghanistan. It is an ouright lie to say we pulled troops from Afghanistan to fight in Iraq. According to Gen. Frank, who was in charge, it never happened. It is an outright lie to say things in Iraq are worse today than 4 years ago. (Go watch a true documentary, “Voices of Iraq.” It is interviews with hundreds of Iraqis. Some are for the war, some are against it. Some love Bush, some hate him. But you get a dramatically different picture than what the media is peddling. You begin to realize that there ARE some good things happening, there ARE a significant number of people who do see us as their liberators. You see that we are making progress.)
I have no idea who will win today. I hope Peter is right. Because if John Kerry wins, we are in serious trouble. Not on the first day of his presidency. I don’t think Kerry is deliberately out to ruin America. But his policies will return us to the Carter era when the economy is in the dumps, we can’t even rescue our own hostages, and the best we can do is boycott come Olympics to try to influence another country.
Jim in Iowa
Every four years, I inform those who know me that I
Intelligent design has no ongoing reasearch program, has laid out no interesting questions or hypotheses to guide research and has not been able to organize facts in an interesting way to suggest new insights. Without that, intelligent design isn’t even an hypothesis (let alone a theory) and shouldn’t even be mentioned in a science classroom.
I am sorry, but you are just not correct. All of the thiings you have mentioned are currently going on by very highly reputable scientists (such as Michael Behe, “Darwin’s Black Box”). I can list 5 books on my shelf written not by “Chrisitan Scientists” with an agenda, but by top notch, world respected scientists who may not agree with Genesis 1, but who say that the evidence clearly points to intelligent design.
Here is just one of many quotes I could provide: “Scientists who utterly reject evolution may be one of our fastest growing controversial minorities . . . . Many of the sceintists supporting this postion hold impressive credentials in science.” That was back in 1979 (Larry Hatfield, “Educators Against Darwin,” Science Digest (Winter 1979).
Intelligent Design is not being chosen in spite of a well developed evolutionary theory. On the contrary, evolutionists themselves have yet to come up with an adequate theory to answer questions for any biochemical system (which by definition is not subject to the “survival of the fittest” criteria since it is deals with chemical laws and not a DNA that can change over time) or where human consciousness came from.
For example, “We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substituion of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity; but we mush concede that there are presntly no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations.” (Franklin M. Harold, The Way of the Cell, Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2001, page 205).
And the list can go on and on. Unless you arbitrarily exclude the possibility of a designer, there is plenty of evidence that suggests such is the case. This is not using the “god of the gaps” type of thinking. This is using the same normal logic we use in any part of life. If you come across a flower bed where the flowers clearly spell out “welcome,” you can be reasonably confident someone planted them that way. The odds of it happening randomly are so small as to be insignificant.
The case for Intelligent Design is not only a valid theory which is currently being researched, it is worthy of consideration. I would suggest that the reason some do not want to consider it is not because of any evidence, but because if we are here by design, what is our relationship to the designer?
Jim in Iowa
“Second, if it was wishful thinking that we could have not stopped 9-11, why do PAD and other Democrats or anti-bush people like to remind us 9-11 happened on Bush’s watch? You can’t have it both ways. Either it could have been stopped, or not.”
I forgot to finish my thought. KET’s quote actually seems to imply that we should have in some way conceded to Osama. I hope I am misunderstaning KET, but I fear I am not. And that is what scares me. We did NOT deserve to be attacked on 9-11. This was the act of a tyrant. To suggest that we could have somehow made peace with Osama beforehand is ludicrous.
KET, please define what you mean by being less proactive. If there was something we could have done to have avoided 9-11, tell me what it was?
Jim in Iowa
RE: Stem Cells
The rhetoric about stem cells is appalling. The truth is, we are not even close to being able to use embyronic stem cells to cure a single disease. The biggest, consistent problem is that we can’t figure out how to turn them off, so they cause tumors and cancer.
There are many other forms of stem cell research that not only is not banned, but that are producing actual treatments for diseases. There are well over 25 known treatments from using ADULT stem cells.
Leaving aside the morality of using embyronic stem cells, why are the actual, current uses of adult stem cells and umbilical cord stem cells being overlooked? I would suggest there is a deeper issue involved, namely, a desire to keep abortion legal and necessary.
Jim in Iowa
“Intelligent Design” is not an answer, because it doesn’t explain where “intelligent design” comes from. It doesn’t actually answer the question. It’s only an explanation for the religious, who don’t need an answer that makes sense.
“I don’t think Kerry is deliberately out to ruin America. But his policies will return us to the Carter era when the economy is in the dumps, we can’t even rescue our own hostages, and the best we can do is boycott come Olympics to try to influence another country.”
I thought our economy was inb the dumps, and how many beheadings have we managed to stop? But Bush did not boycott the olympics! So thats one up for Bush I guess.
I am sorry, but you are just not correct.
Sorry, but I am.
Behe is NOT doing any active research in the area. He is writing books, but he is not doing anything that is being placed in peer review (which is what doing research means).
Scientists who utterly reject evolution may be one of our fastest growing controversial minorities . . . . Many of the sceintists supporting this postion hold impressive credentials in science.” That was back in 1979
And evolution holds just as well in biology now as it does then. There frankly is no competing theory; as biologists say time and time again, biology simply does not make sense without evolution. This statement is just one of the most evil canards that the creationist movement has put out, because VERY few biologists have rejected evolution (because, as you can figure out, what physicists and astronomists say about evolution is not quite as relevant as biologists).
The case for Intelligent Design is not only a valid theory which is currently being researched, it is worthy of consideration.
Sorry, but this is not the case. There is no research being done; when you look at the articles, all they come down to is that “evolution does not explain x” or “evolution does not explain y”. This is not a scientific research program; it’s anti-evolutionism masquerading as science. It does not work except in response to and reaction to evolution–which is not a good way to do science. Moreover, ID proponents have failed utterly to operationalize their concepts; how can you do any work if you can’t operationalize things like complex specified information to conduct research???
“There is no doubt [that] Bush could have done some things better.”
Unfortunately, Bush wouldn’t agree with this statement. Which is probably why many people have a problem with him.
I went to the polls to vote shortly after they opened at 7 am in Canoga Park, CA. There was already a long line. In the past, maybe there would be a couple of voters in front of me. Not this time. I had to wait about twenty minutes to vote which is so unusual in the morning.
Prediction: This is going to be one of the highest turnouts in voters in decades and the voting polls are not going to be prepared for this.
Election prediction: Kerry due to the Michael Moore voters.
I just wanted to share this with you guys… I wrote it this morning and posted it on my blog (accessable via URL link)
THE MOMENT OF CHANGE
It’s not very often that the world changes in so notable a way that both the old and young can stop and see the change occur around them, like air molecules drenched in the golden sunlight of an autumn dusk. Yet these moments occur, perhaps as often as blue moons; perhaps as rarely as leap years.
I don’t need to tell you that we live in a world of change and chaos. We live in a time of innocence ending, and where we walk now will be remembered always. These are the days and actions that will be repeated in story again and again for the rest of our society’s future history, and the most amazing thing is that we now decide the course of that history. I know this: we will be heroes, but whether we will be flawed or perfect is still something we are deciding at this late hour.
My message to you is this: we no longer have to be afraid. We no longer must embrace fear as though it is an old lover or friend. Our best days are yet to come, and if we maintain the courage of our convictions those days will be sooner rather than later. I tell you this because today is the day we can vote for change. Today is the day we can vote to ease our conscience and strengthen our hope, and we can do it by simply voting for a man named John Kerry. The days of our shame as Americans can be over, the hours in which we hide behind our fear can be passed. Amazingly we are the deciders of our destiny, and I ask you how many societies are allowed that privilege? How many societies can change the very course of future history in the moment of greatest need?
I believe that a vote for Kerry is a vote for a stronger future – a future where we will no longer need to be afraid. Already, I am not afraid.
I hope you won’t be afraid either, and if you’re reading this and are American and registered to vote, I beg that you do. Even if it’s for George W. Bush. But a vote for Bush is a vote for fear, and I for one am tired of fearing anything.
Proponents of Intelligent Design do not necessarily dispute evolution, at least not for the purpose of or need to legitimize ID. Often, those who attack ID attempt to do so by attacking Biblical scripture and the notion of devine revelation, disregarding the fact that many who believe in ID base their beliefs on logic, reasoning, and established scientific principles and not necessarily scripture. Noted figures in history such as Benjamin Franklin and Albert Einstein shared such beliefs and there is a lot of literature supporting it.
Intelligent design is at least as valid (much more valid IMO) as the notion of the spontanious appearance from nothingness of enough motion filled matter to create the expanding universe. I see no reason why it cannot be presented in schools as a viable theory.
Ok I know this has NOTHING to do with this topic BUT WHEN is Peter David’s New Frontier After the Fall book coming out this month, I cant wait!?
Anyone know the Specific date?
On Amazon’s description of the book, it has Nov. 30th by the publisher’s name. That’s all that I know.
Took me two hours to vote today. My first time, too. Some welcome to the process, huh?
Voted Kerry. Not because I like him. Because I despise Bush with a passion usually reserved only for Avengers Disassembled and Byrne’s ego.
Bush, in four years…
Squandered worldwide sympathy.
Alienated many nations.
Lied to the public about Saddam and 9-11
Went on a cowboy trip to finish what his Daddy started.
Started a war without a solid exit strategy.
Got countless Iraqi citizens killed.
Got well over a thousand U.S. Troops killed.
Managed to bring beheadings back to dinner’s news viewing.
Spewed the same tired rhetoric for months on end.
Cannot see what he is doing wrong.
Lost millions of jobs.
Helped cause gas prices to soar ludicrously.
Failed to get Osama.
By comparison, Kerry just makes no impression at all. Better no impression than a terrible one.
Four more years of Bush? Why not just nuke ourselves and be done with it? This keeps up, the entire WORLD is gonna hate America.
“4) Repeal that nasty first amendment. It shouldn’t be used to criticise our President in a TIME OF WAR.”
John Adams?
Dear God, how I wish John Adams could be president again instead of the choices we have…
Don’t think it’ll be a blow out either way. Don’t know what the turn out will be. Don’t think Kerry will have a bad showing.
Millions of jobs is probably an exaggeration.
“Millions of jobs is probably an exaggeration.”
Millions of jobs were lost on his watch. I can’t really blame MILLIONS on him personally in good conscience.
Voted during my lunch hour today. It just took a few moments and was entirely painless. The election officials were very helpful, too. OTOH I live in Texas so I have no real hope that my vote against Bush (I’m voting against, not for) will have any effect in the slghtest. On the other,other hand, I got to cast my vote against a congressional canidate that I despise even more so I can take some solace that my vote for her opponent might make an actual difference.
Regarding the Cole and the first WTC bombing, I’d recommend “Against All Enemies” by Richard A. Clarke, which provides a great amount of detail about bin Laden, al Queda, and how things evolved into the current state of affairs.
I realize that Clarke is probably not considered a solid source by pro-Bush factions, but given the depth and length of his experience, I think it’s worth looking at.
JSM
I truly hope that Kerry wins. Granted, I fear that if he does, we’ll see Bush on tv in the Oval Office in dark robes. Next to him will be Ðìçk Cheney breathing hard, and Tom DeLay with a weird speech impediment.
Bush: Fellow Americans, I know that in *your* eyes I lost this election, but that isn’t so. Isn’t that true, Tom?
DeLay: Yousa not losing da power, big baddie daddie!
Bush: Indeed. I have dissolved the Senate and the House, and all power will be mine. This will be a dictatorship, with me as the dictator. Hopefully.
Cheney: It is useless to resist!
Ok, so it may not happen…Let’s just hope that if Bush does lose that he loses gracefully, since we know Kerry would do so.
All I can say is if Bush wins even by the slimmest majority then I’ll tip my hat in respect to him.
Seriously, he had everything stacked against him:
-the majority of Americans did not vote for him the first time
-a record deficit which was a record surplus before he took office,
-the first president in ages to have a net job loss
-Most major musicians and celebrities coming out publicly against him
-his actions have separated and polarised the country in a manner not seen for quite some time
-A major film that was a huge box office draw slammed and denigrated Bush in every respect and then is released on DVD just in time for the election
– He invades a country for completely false reasons, one can be chalked up to a lack of credible intelligence 🙂 and the other is an outright, lie Saddam had NOTHING to do with Sept 11,
– The man George Bush vowed on television to make capturing or killing his number 1 priority, showing up hale and hearty with a brand new video just days before the election
Despite all of the above, Bush is in this neck and neck against Kerry and could win. If he does win how could anyone not be impressed with his ability to campaign successfully?
It would actually cause me to hold him to a higher degree of respect because winning a second term would clearly demonstrate that the guy can do some things extremely well. Nobody could have run a better campaign then he did.
Saw most of “Bush’s Brain” last night. You must give credit where credit is due. Svengali, I mean Karl Rove would have won thisfor Bush. I still think Kerry will have both popular and electoral votes!
Karen:
>Saw most of “Bush’s Brain” last night. You must give credit where credit is due.
Given the subject matter, you have to suspect it would be void of any comprehendable plot. 😉
OK, this is starting out well and nuts.
Popular vote: 56% Bush, 43% Kerry.
Electoral college: 66 Bush, 77 Kerry. That works out to 46% Bush, 54% Kerry.
I assume it can only get goofier from here…
Ah..saner, but still depressing.
The electoral vote has been updated to match the popular vote.
Much like CNN et al and ad nauseum 4 years ago, I spoke to soon.
“It’s been interesting reading some blogs of people who are obviously Republican or Democrat. They’re prediciting the other side is going to win. I think it’s a mental defence mechanism – if you’re right, then you’re prepared for the letdown. If you’re wrong, then you can be happy that you were wrong.”
Well, it’s the Mel Brooks song from the beginning of “The Twelve Chairs”–hope for the best, expect the worst.
PAD
If the Americans vote for Bush, the country will go on… mayhap into the dusks of the glory that it has passed into. But the world will be distoryed, just like Rome, America is starving the world to feed its mobs. It must stop! It must stop now!
James Tichy: So in ’93 when two CIA agents are killed in virgina by terrorists, when ’93 thw WTS is bombed and six people died and 1000 injured
Today was my first time voting, and as I’m watching the various channels calling this and that state, I’m wondering why everyone’s calling states where only 2% of the vote is in…and it’s close? (Mostly watching NBC Channel 5 Chicago, and keeping on top of Yahoo’s live results)
Well, unlike 2000, I decided to vote in this election. And, as I have done so many times in the past, I voted a split ticket.
KET: …were actually spent ON VACATION about 40% of the time.
Luigi Novi: Many of which were work vacations. Camp David, for example, is a fully equipped alternate Oval Office at which he met with important foreign leaders.
…which is NOT the same thing as I’ve said. Camp David is known as a Presidential RETREAT, and that’s hardly a vacation zone.
KET
Wow, what a day…the early exit polls had kerry winning by a landslide, you could see eleation in the faces of his supporters…now the actual results are a whole other story…Joe Lockhart doesn’t look like a man on the winning side…higher than expected turnout and Bush is winning by 3 points in the popular vote??? Of course, it is to be expected that Bush would be piling on the states now, all you Kerry supporters out there should calm down, the left coast will bring some better news. It all comes down to Florida, Ohio, Iowa, just like we thought it would.
My students better not expect any Dead Poets Society quality lectures on Wednesday. I’m in this for the long haul.
I’m wondering why everyone’s calling states where only 2% of the vote is in…and it’s close?
I wonder the same thing.
Personally, I think calling ANY state before ALL polls are closed should be considered voter intimidation. Pure and simple.
But hey, if Bush wins reelection, I want a bumper sticker saying “God curse America”.
Statistical sampling is a great tool – it’s what allows Bush and Kerry to concentrate advertising in two districts in Ohio, and ignore the rest of us.
I’m curious what broadcasts/web sites are people using. I’m using primarily CSPAN for their online Electoral Map, and NBC for the “news”.
“I’m curious what broadcasts/web sites are people using. I’m using primarily CSPAN for their online Electoral Map, and NBC for the “news”.”
I’m using the remote to skip from station to station between the various cable news shows, with an occasional stop on Cinemax to check out DARKMAN. If you time it just right it makes it look like Liam Neeson is beating the hëll out of Paul Begala.
RE: Intelligent Design
Ok, let me make this as clear as I can. Let’s start at the very beginning. Where did everything come from? That is not just a “biology” question. That is a question of how the big bang happened in the first place. There is mounting evidence that the universe and matter are not eternal. So they must have come from somewhere. Ultimately, it is a leap of faith to either think it came from nothing (which is logically impossible), or that it was created. If there is a creator who exists out of time (which would be true by definition since time is relative and is a function of our current laws of physics), then it offers a distinct alternative to the universe coming from nothing. (Theories of multiple universes, etc., do not answer the question but just push it back one step.)
When you get to biology, the theory of evolution works fine on the micro level. It is obvious that organisms develop and change over time. But there is not yet any proof that an organism has become a distinctly different organism. The quote I posted says this very thing. That is a crucial point.
Finally, there is absolutely no adequate theory for how humans became concious individuals. How did inamimate matter become self aware? None of the models suggested have proven to be true.
In the normal world, when you find complex information, it is sign of intelligence. When you find a book, a piece of music, and mathmatical equation written out, they are all signs of intelligence. Our DNA is the greatest, most compact information ever developed. There is no evolutionary theory that can explain how this information became encoded.
When you find evidence of intelligence, it is natural to assume there is an itelligent agent involved.
I won’t waste time here arguing this further since the majority probably don’t care. I have read the wathmaker book (I don’t have it on my shelf) and found it lacking in many ways. If you want to read a good summary of ID from a Christian author (unless you are afraid to read what a former top reporter for the Chicago Tribune has written based on interviews with top scientists in their various fields), check out “The Case for the Creator” by Lee Strobel.
Jim in Iowa
It’s lies like this a vote for Bush is a vote for fear that I believe Kurt mentioned and other lies that were perpetuated by the Democratic Party (i.e. October surprise, privatization of social security, preventing minorities from voting) that polarized a lot of people who didn’t vote before to vote for Bush this time.
Think about that for a minute or two.
[I]Ultimately, it is a leap of faith to either think it came from nothing (which is logically impossible), [B]or that it was created.[/B][/I] (emphasis mine)
Which, you know, is also logically impossible, since accepting the existence of an intelligent creator brings us back to square one: Where did the creator come from? It is true that both theories/beliefs face the same chicken/egg dilemma, but the Big bang can be at least partially verified by modern science, and there are theories as to how the material that would form the basis for the BB came to be. But no one has proven God’s existence even indirectly.
(I’m actually a believer in the existence of God, but in scientific terms, the BB wins.)
(Fine by me, Glenn. Me, I’m guessing it’s never too soon to start printing up those “Don’t blame me, I voted for Kerry” bumper stickers we should be needing in the next few years.–PAD)
Nice to know you still have your sense of humor. 🙂 Nice twist on what some did during the Clinton era.
Jim in Iowa
Which, you know, is also logically impossible, since accepting the existence of an intelligent creator brings us back to square one: Where did the creator come from?
I would beg to differ. It is not “logically” impossible. I would agree that is impossible to prove by empirical methods, but that is logical. If God exists and created the universe, then by definition, he exists outside of the universe. It is logical that he would not be measureable.
At this point it becomes a metaphysical issue. There are theories/faith stories, particularly the Judeo-Christian faith story, that is logically coherent. It suggest that God is eternal, existing outside of time.
That is very different than saying the universe is in some way eternal. That is based on laws of physics, and the laws of physics and the evidence we have collected show this is not true.
If the universe started with the Big Bang, that then mixes physics and metaphysics. There is no theory yet that can explain how something came from nothing by natural means.
Jim in Iowa
Air America just reported that Kerry has conceded. I hope you Bush supporters are happy. We now have a man who started an unnecessary war, is ruining our environment, wants to gut social security, and cares only for his base (the haves and have mores) Congratulations. Your blind worship has put in office the worst president we’ve ever had.
Welp, I sold my car when I moved to NY, but I’ll still take one of those “Don’t Blame Me” stickers for my backpack.
Jim from Iowa said: Which, you know, is also logically impossible, since accepting the existence of an intelligent creator brings us back to square one: Where did the creator come from?
Jim, you have to know a little something about science before you can begin arguing against Darwinism. For the record, a Catholic Priest taught the theory of Darwinism to me. Creationism doesn’t neccessarily contradict Darwinism- they can coexist and you pointed out the exact mechanism of how. Current theories can’t ultimately explain creation, and one is free to believe however their faith dictates matter came to be. I believe it was created by God. But that doesn’t mean I literally believe the scribing of the fallible humans who wrote the Book of Genisis. Seven days? No where is the Bible does God ask us to believe this literally means seven days and is not a metaphore for a greater passage of time.
I hope you Bush supporters are happy. We now have a man who started an unnecessary war, is ruining our environment, wants to gut social security, and cares only for his base (the haves and have mores) Congratulations. Your blind worship has put in office the worst president we’ve ever had.
More fear-mongering and hateful exagerations from the left. These recent threads have been quite interesting.