…and boy, are my arms tired.

I just flew in from the west coast…

Comicon is, as usual, more of a marathon than a convention. I have just finished running the latest one, and it was its typical combination of entertaining and exhausting. Every year I’m a little older and it gets a little more challenging.

I hardly got to see any panels, since the ones I would have most liked to see would have required my getting on line during times when I was supposed to be at autographings or on panels.

I was on four panels. They were:

1) The X-Men panel in which we discussed the upcoming events in the various mutant titles. When I was introduced, over the robust cheers (including from a few guys who had their arms around other guys, so I suspect I know why they were jazzed) I also heard a smattering of boos from toward the back. I figure they were either Liefeld fans or Scans Daily guys.

2) The Impact University panel. They should really give us ninety minutes for that one. It was an assemblage of various folks discussing the creation of comics and ways to break in. We have an hour and could easily have gone another thirty minutes.

3) Gays in comics. Andy Mangels asked me to be on it and assured me that it was typical to have one or two straight creators on it…which didn’t stop a couple of guys from assuming I was gay afterward and expressing astonishment to discover I wasn’t. (Is it THAT hard to believe? I’m not sure how to react to that.)

4) The IDW Angel panel. Although I don’t write Angel, Illyria is currently appearing in the latest Fallen Angel limited series, so I’m pretty sure that’s why I was included. I got to sit next to Juliet Landau, which was pretty cool. You should definitely check out her new comic focusing on, naturally enough, Drusilla.

I also participated in Mark Evanier’s “Quick Draw” panel which is, for my money, the most entertaining ninety minutes at the convention. People line up for eighteen hours to see panels about TV shows and in the meantime there’s Mark (along with Sergio, Scott Shaw, and a rotating third artist) engaging in battles of wits and artistic ingenuity. It helps to remind people that it’s a comic con, not just a media fest. Typically I participate in what Mark calls “Secret Word,” in which the artists are supposed to convey a word to me solely through illustrations, like in Pictionary. When Mark put up his first challenge to me, Tom Galloway was seated in the front row doing supportive things like making throat-cutting gestures and saying, “You’re dead.” Nice display of confidence there, Tom…

Lessee, what else happened:

Voice actor Tom Kenny agreed to call Caroline on the phone as Spongebob. She absolutely freaked with joy. Five days later she’s still talking about it.

Remember a few months ago when one guy showed up and argued endlessly that I was supposed to feel bad about Scans Daily collapsing? He showed up at one of my signings and continued to argue with me about it. I’ll give him credit that at least he had the stones to confront me face to face and argue with me, as opposed to the rest of them who are content to snipe from hiding. Unfortunately he made the mistake of arguing points of law while Bob Ingersoll was standing there. I’ve never seen Bob quite that angry; I thought he was going to strangle him at one point, he was getting so frustrated. And Craig Ries was there as well, endeavoring to get the guy to realize the absurdity of his position. It was bizarrely like having the board come to life in front of me.

I did a signing at the Xbox booth, my first experience in the video world, since I wrote the script for a new game called “Shadow Complex” that’s coming out in mid-August.

Got to have various meals with fun folks including, at different times, Bill Mumy and his family; Mark Evanier and his significant other, Carolyn Kelly; Len Wein and his wife, Chris Valada; Dave Seidman; agent Andy Zack; editor Jim Frenkel; Paul Dini and his magical wife, Misty.

Met the great Stan Freberg who was set up at artists alley.

Attended the Comicon 40th anniversary party. Talked with Dave Gibbons about the “Watchmen” movie. Talked with Dwayne McDuffie about “Ben 10.”

Did lots of other stuff that I’m too tired to come up with right now.

PAD

Note from PAD: That’ll teach me to do postings when I’m jetlagged. I forgot to mention the IDW panel. The above was edited to add it.

57 comments on “…and boy, are my arms tired.

  1. “Remember a few months ago when one guy showed up and argued endlessly that I was supposed to feel bad about Scans Daily collapsing? He showed up at one of my signings and continued to argue with me about it. I’ll give him credit that at least he had the stones to confront me face to face and argue with me, as opposed to the rest of them who are content to snipe from hiding. Unfortunately he made the mistake of arguing points of law while Bob Ingersoll was standing there. I’ve never seen Bob quite that angry; I thought he was going to strangle him at one point, he was getting so frustrated. And Craig Ries was there as well, endeavoring to get the guy to realize the absurdity of his position. It was bizarrely like having the board come to life in front of me. ”

    Was this the guy from Greece who argued that U.S. laws didn’t apply to him?

    In any event, congratulations on being booed; all the most popular creators have a vocal contingent that absolutely loathes them. It’s a lot better than being ignored!

    1. Was this the guy from Greece who argued that U.S. laws didn’t apply to him?
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      No, this guy was (I presume) an American. Oddly enough though, there was a fellow from Greece who was there to meet PAD at one point. We ended up discussing a variety of things before he ventured back off into the crowd.
      .
      But the Scan Daily guy’s whole objective seemed to be to get PAD to admit that he was responsible for Scans Daily being shut down. Which, of course, PAD isn’t; SD is responsible for their being shut down.
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      Personally, I enjoyed the whole debate – if you can call it that. I was going to go to the Marvel Cup O’ Joe panel, but decided to just skip it to see how things turned out with the Scans Daily guy. After all, I can easily get all the info out of that panel on any comics site. 🙂
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      PAD, I’m curious to hear what John Barrowman thought of your issue of X-Factor, if you had the chance to get that copy to him.

      1. I gave him the issue, but naturally he didn’t have time to read it right then and there. I gave him my card; perhaps he’ll drop me a line and let me know what he thinks. Kinda doubt it, but ya never know.
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        PAD

      2. Greets, Geoff. I never did get your name at the time, so it’s good to put a name to the face.
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        To be honest, I really was trying to stay out of it, and I think Bob was too. But if my posts here are any indication, I just can’t help but put my two cents in eventually.
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        Honestly, we needed a moderator, because it was pretty evident nobody was getting anywhere fast. 🙂

      3. I think I met you this last weekend Craig. Was that you I was talking with about Disney World with?

        If it was you, thanks (to both you and PAD) for the input. I took notes and forwarded them to my fiance, who is much more in charge of the honeymoon than I am.

        If it was not you, sorry for randomly derailing the thread. Well, apologies for that regardless.

  2. “Gays in comics. Andy Mangels asked me to be on it and assured me that it was typical to have one or two straight creators on it…which didn’t stop a couple of guys from assuming I was gay afterward and expressing astonishment to discover I wasn’t. (Is it THAT hard to believe? I’m not sure how to react to that.)”
    .
    Well, you do live in a house with two girls. It’s probably just Jack Tripper syndrome at work.

  3. Comic Con sounded like real fun, too bad that such big events don´t happen down here (Buenos Aires, Argentina).

    I´m 33 but still remember when I was a kid and I´m sure Caroline must be glowing after her phone talk with Spongebob. Please let us know a little more of that story.

    1. Kathleen posted an account of the east coast end of the call on her weblog. If you check her blog listings in the sidebar, it’s the one titled, naturally, “Who lives in a Pineapple Under the Sea?”.

      1. Thank you for the heads up. I have just read it and love that story. It made me share the excitement of Caroline speaking with Spongebob

  4. Weren’t you on IDW’s Angel panel as well? I’m sure I saw reports, and a picture, of you at that…

  5. I’m curious about Shadow Complex. Will it ever make me laugh? That company tends to lean towards “no.”

  6. I was at the Quick Draw event. You were great even when the catagory was for the artists to draw whatever they wanted. One of my favorite parts happend when Len Wein was guessing and word was “blank.” Scott Shaw!’s drawings included the voice of Bugs Bunny and a guy turning into Omac.

    David

    1. OMAC’s other id was, of course, Buddy Blank. Given Len’s track record in Pro/Fan on questions about his own work (he’s managed to get a whopping 1 correct in over 10 years…for which we gave him a standing ovation as it’s become a running gag), I was trying to recall if Len had ever written Buddy Blank. : -)

      1. Didn’t Len Wein write that great DC Comics Presents Superman/Omac team-up that George Perez drew?

  7. Peter left out just why I was making the throat-slitting motions. It all started before the actual event, when Sergio came over and asked Peter to help pull a trick on Mark. Basically, Sergio went something like “Mark, I want to do it this time. I have a word for Peter to try to guess.” Mark agreed, Sergio wrote “ovuncular” [sic] and then when Peter turned around started drawing a flower. Peter immediately correctly guessed “avuncular”.

    Of course, the trick was that they’d agreed in advance what word Sergio would use.

    Mark’s retaliation was to ask the artists to open “Envelope #5”, whose contents were “There is no list. Draw anything.”. And that’s when I started making “You are so dead” motions at Peter.

    To his credit, Peter quickly figured it out. As he said later, his first clue was that Sergio, Scott, and Floyd Norman all hesitated before they started drawing, while for all the others they’d started immediately. Then the line from Silence of the Lambs came to mind; “Clarice, doesn’t this all seem desperately random to you?”. So he figured either the word was “random” or they were just drawing anything.

    He also then got the usual three words, and quickly figured out each one of them.

    My own highlight was being asked by Mark Evanier to help Stan Freberg get to his spotlight. Mr. Freberg was in a wheelchair for any extensive travel due to a herniated disc, so I wheeled him over to the Convention Center from his hotel. During the trip, I managed to make a joke that cracked him up; the elevator in the newly built Hilton announced that we were too heavy and someone would have to get off (it was more than just me and him in the elevator). I made a comment along the lines of “Does this elevator make me look fat?”, which he burst out in laughter at.

  8. PAD said, “It was bizarrely like having the board come to life in front of me.”
    .
    I’ve sometimes wondered what it would be like if the “regulars” on this board met face to face, say at a convention panel discussion. Sure, some people– Bill Myers and Bill Mulligan, for example– have already met, but I suspect that most of us haven’t. Or known that, say, the person standing next to us in line to get something signed at a convention was a fellow poster on the board.
    .
    Anyway, if we were all gathered somewhere (and assuming no one was wearing name tags), how easy or difficult might it be to correctly guess who someone (other than PAD, obviously) was, based on how they interacted with others? I imagine the Scans Daily person identified himself by name or “handle” when arguing with PAD at the convention; but if he’d just come up to PAD and made his argument in such a way that he might’ve been someone who’d simply heard about the controversy (and not mentioned having posted anything), would PAD have “recognized” him as the person who posted he should have felt guilty?
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    In any event, it’d probably be an interesting sociological experiment if we were all in the same room together and were challenged to figure out who everyone was. I wonder how accurate our guesses would be.
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    (which brings to mind this exchange between David Tennant and Catherine Tate in a “Children in Need” special: “Would your name be Lauren Cooper, by any chance?” “Yeah. Why?” “Your reputation precedes you.”)
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    As to the convention itself… PAD, I see two solutions to your problem of not having been able to attend those panels you wanted to see: Either clone yourself, so you’ll be all set for next year, or build a time machine, so you can enjoy this year’s panels. Sure, there’s a small degree of risk (as Calvin found out when he cloned himself). One clone might help himself to your car; another to your bank account; and a third might pìšš øff your various editors, leaving you to deal with the fallout. But look on the bright side. You could probably declare them as dependents.
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    As to traveling back in time to attend a panel (and then doubling (and then tripling) back to attend more), no worries. The space time continuum’s probably much more resilient than we think. And the Blinovitch Limitation Effect is probably not that much of an issue.
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    Seriously, given the apparent success of the Impact Comics panel, perhaps you could lobby for 90 minutes next year. Or are all panels set in stone at a particular length? I’ve never been to the San Diego Comic Con, so I don’t know if there’s a set template, or if it’s different every year.
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    Next time you fly, remember you don’t need to actually flap your arms. Just keep them straight out, or at your sides, depending on your preference.
    .
    Or there’s always the train.
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    Rick

    1. Or there’s always the train.
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      I took the train out of San Diego on Sunday. And apparently I just missed seeing Nathan Fillion at the Amtrak station. With Comic-Con, you just never know. 🙂

    2. I was in a group which did that years ago. Visitors to the Comics and Animation forum on CompuServe all met up for a weekend in New York. Introductions were made as each person arrived so there wasn’t a “guess who’s who”, but was an interesting “so that’s what you look/sound like” air to it.

    3. If any Potato Moon contributors are going to be at Dragon*Con, I’d love to get signatures on the printout of the story I’ll be taking.
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      Corey

    4. “In any event, it’d probably be an interesting sociological experiment if we were all in the same room together and were challenged to figure out who everyone was. I wonder how accurate our guesses would be.”

      It could be interesting, and it would be a fun game trying to identify each other. This just reminded me of “Identity”, Penn Jillette’s game show from a couple of years back. It was fun to watch with friends and make our own guesses.

      Of course, given the way that some discussions in this board have gone in the past, there’s always be the chance that we’d also find ourselves in an impromptu game of “Murder Mystery”. 🙂

      Raphy

    5. Sure, some people– Bill Myers and Bill Mulligan, for example– have already met
      .
      Did I? Or did I meet a Mulligan-bot? I may never know.

  9. I hardly got to see any panels, since the ones I would have most liked to see would have required my getting on line
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    As a participant in other panels at the Con and/or as a notable comic writer, couldn’t you have gotten whatever the equivalent is of a backstage pass or something that allowed you to skip the lines?

    1. “I stood on line for eight hours, didn’t get in, and then that dámņëd Peter David waltzed up, waved his badge and they let him in. What a jerk!”
      .
      You just KNOW that’ll be all over the Internet.

      PAD

      1. Yeah. I suppose it would. My advice (for what very little it’s worth): Don’t run your life to mollify the jerks. It’s not like you’re Harry Reid, or something.

    2. As someone with “Professional” on their badge (due to having been scheduled for a program item that then had to be cancelled), the only two panels I was able to skip lines for were 1) Quick Draw, since I’ve been known to help out Mark when he needs a game timed and have also sometimes been a “Guess the words” contestant and 2) Stan Freberg’s spotlight. In which case, I’m guessing that pushing the wheelchair in which the spotlighted person is sitting trumps waiting in line. : -)

  10. I wasn’t aware that Fallen Angel Reborn was a mini. How many issues is it going for and will there be more Fallen Angel post Reborn?

  11. Oooh, ooh, can we get some dirt on what Dave Gibbons thought about losing the squid?

  12. Hey there, this is Geoff Sebesta.

    I don’t think any of us are happy about the scans_daily thing. We established that. It’s safe to say that no-one is thrilled.

    I’m sorry if I crossed a line by approaching you on the topic. You and I have met before, I had mentioned that I would try to find you at SDCC to talk about this, and, most importantly, you seem like a person who has no problem owning what they say on the internet. I respect that, and feel the same way.

    I was never trying to argue the law with you, but move beyond it to the larger questions. In that, I failed. I’m terribly sorry we got mired in the small points, especially with a lawyer present. That was not my intention, but what the conversation slid into.

    I have no problem with you. I don’t particularly appreciate the way you describe me above, but I suppose it’s alright; this is your blog, say what you like. My point of view on the same conversation is here:

    http://community.livejournal.com/noscans_daily/122498.html

    I tried to be respectful of you despite our disagreement; I hope for the same from you.

    I don’t plan to approach you about this again. The incident was five months ago, we talked about it in person, and now is a good time to move on.

    Don’t get me wrong — I’ll talk about the internet and what it means to copyright law with you. I’ll talk technology and politics all day, if you’re interested. But only if you’re interested. I’m not trying to make you uncomfortable or beat a dead horse.

    So, once again, this is the post (written back in March) where I try to talk about the larger issue:

    http://megatexas.livejournal.com/169445.html

    Please, if you have any further interest in this issue, read it and reply. I would love to discuss this with you more. I think that there is much to be learned here.

    But I will not bring this up again without your permission. The last thing I want is to harrass you, or argue endlessly, or make your friends want to strangle me…

    ….or to be described as personally unpleasant on your blog…

    Or et cetera.

    Hope to hear from you sometime.

    _g

  13. I was unable to make it this year, as I’m not sure where I’m going to be working by this year’s end. (The joys of working for the post office.) Anyway, having not been to SD’s Quick Draw event, I want to recommend to anyone who makes it to the Pittsburgh Comic Con to attend their QD panel. People in the audience shout ideas for the artists to draw. (Last year, I shouted “She-Hulk vs. Power Girl. Shulkie won because she was ready for PG with a pin.) While they draw, raffle tickets are sold and the drawings raffled off to the audience. The money goes to the CBLDF, which is another great reason to attend and participate.

    Also, I have to ask: Given California’s economic woes, did you run into any IOUs or any other problems?

  14. I was excited to hear about the upcoming Fallen Angel omnibus containing the DC material. Been waiting awhile for the rest of the material to be collected.

  15. I was never trying to argue the law with you, but move beyond it to the larger questions. In that, I failed. I’m terribly sorry we got mired in the small points, especially with a lawyer present. That was not my intention, but what the conversation slid into.
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    I think that’s where the disconnect is coming from. The legal aspects aren’t a small point. You were asking me to feel sorry for people who were repeatedly and flagrantly violating the law having their fun spoiled.
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    Let me put it this way: If someone annoys you and you punch him repeatedly in the face, to you the important aspect is that he annoyed you. To everyone else, the important aspect is that you’ve broken laws against assault and battery. No one cares about your deeper, broadly philosophical views.
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    Your main contention was that you wanted me to feel badly about Scans. Perhaps even apologize, say I’m sorry it happened. It’s amazing. People keep thinking I should apologize for things. Where are the apologies due me? Where are the apologies from the people who vilify me? The ones who trash me for spoiling their fun? The ones who rewrite history to make me look bad? The ones who rewrite the things I say to turn them into comments and attitudes that are indefensible and not remotely my sentiments? Where are the mea culpas from people who are too gutless to sign their names to commentaries that assault the character or reputation of those willing to put their opinions out there? It’s very much a one-way street out there when it comes to acts of conciliation.
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    I have no problem with you. I don’t particularly appreciate the way you describe me above, but I suppose it’s alright;
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    Well, I describe your position as absurd. However, you personally I describe as having the courage of your convictions to confront me face to face on it. That was praise.
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    PAD

    1. I think the main disconnect comes from the fact that you had no expectation or intention that Scans Daily would be shut down when you reported the material in question. You figured the material would be removed and that Scans Daily would go on its merry way, if I recall correctly.
      .
      However, when Scans Daily DID get shut down, your reaction was not “Oops!” but seemed to be more along the lines of “Serves ’em right.” This led to the perception that you’d personally wielded the +2 Hammer of Smiting, even though that wasn’t the case. And, as you well know, once people have made up their minds about a thing like that, they’re no longer interested in the facts.
      .
      It’s possible that Scans Daily would have been a lot less het up if you’d said that you were sorry that the whole place went under and it wasn’t your intent for that to happen. Of course, it’s also possible you would have been much more inclined to SAY something like that if people there hadn’t been telling you to Die In A Fire and gotten even more vicious when you showed up to confront them via Kath’s account.
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      So it’s kind of a clustermuck all around, from where I’m standing.

      1. Except I did say I hadn’t intended for that to happen. That I was not expecting it and was surprised when it did. I specifically said that I had expected that if anything did happen (and keep in mind I didn’t assume that anything would; for all I knew, Marvel would be cool with it) it would simply be that the copyrighted material would be taken down, end of story. Just as has happened countless times around the net (how often have you clicked on links from AICN only to find an empty block that says, “Material removed by request from copyright holder”?)
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        Did I feel badly that they had lost their space to talk? Sure. But did I feel personally responsible? No. THEY were responsible for what happened. Did I feel I owed them apologies? No. I did nothing wrong; they did. They shot themselves in the foot. I have no intention of being the Internet equivalent of Harry Wittington, apologizing to Ðìçk Cheney for getting himself shot in the face.
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        I said repeatedly that I didn’t intend for the place to go under. They didn’t care. If I’d apologized, if I’d groveled they would not have cared. Chances are they would have thrown such apologies back in my face. They were too busy declaring that I had shown up, been treated harshly, and in retaliation had insisted they be obliterated, like God smiting Sodom and Gomorrah.
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        You’re even rewriting history right here, right now. You’re floating the notion that I would have been less likely to say something if people hadn’t been attacking me. Except, as I’ve said over and over, I gave the editor a heads up before reading a single word of comment. I saw the reproduction of all the material and let the editor know of its existence. Yet again, yet AGAIN, it’s being implied that I let Marvel know about a possible violation of copyright–was some sort of personal snark on my part.
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        Let’s say I hadn’t told them. So here’s the following possible conversation:
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        MARVEL: Peter, we happened to find this thing called Scans Daily and noticed comments from you on the board. You knew about the fact that they were reproducing huge amounts of our material and you didn’t tell us?
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        PAD: Well, yes, that’s right. I was concerned the website might get wiped out and they’d be mad at me.
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        MARVEL: Are you out of your mind? Where the hëll are your priorities? You’re elevating worries about fans liking you over your responsibility to helping protect copyright laws–laws designed to protect, among other things, your rights as an artist? We thought you were a professional!
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        Yeah, that’s a conversation I really want to have. And I should have it…why? So some fans who thought nothing of turning on me at the slightest provocation could continue to have their fun?
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        I don’t think so.
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        PAD

    2. You’re even rewriting history right here, right now. You’re floating the notion that I would have been less likely to say something if people hadn’t been attacking me. Except, as I’ve said over and over, I gave the editor a heads up before reading a single word of comment. I saw the reproduction of all the material and let the editor know of its existence. Yet again, yet AGAIN, it’s being implied that I let Marvel know about a possible violation of copyright–was some sort of personal snark on my part.

      No, I’m not. Don’t make assumptions. I meant “sorry” as in “I’m sorry that happened” not as in “I’m sorry I did that.” You have no reason to apologize for keeping the people who sign your paycheck informed. My suggestion was that the antagonism between you and them made your initial response to the situation AFTER THE FACT appear a bit harsher than it could have been otherwise. (And it obviously didn’t help that people kept stomping over and yelling at you about it and making you even less inclined to think highly of the community in question.)
      .
      But you are indeed correct that some fans will never be appeased, so it’s just as likely that the most conciliatory tone in the world would have had no effect whatsoever. We’ll never know at this point. You’ve stated your case and people have made up their minds regardless.

      1. No, I’m not. Don’t make assumptions. I meant “sorry” as in “I’m sorry that happened” not as in “I’m sorry I did that.”
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        Yeah, you’re right. I reread the passage that I took as rewriting and realize now that I misinterpreted. You were saying that I might have been more inclined to be contrite if people hadn’t been attacking me…which, honestly, I don’t think I would have, but that’s not the same as rewriting history.
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        The sad thing is that people did indeed make up their minds and keep repeating the same lies even though the truth is demonstrably otherwise.
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        PAD

  16. Raphael Sutton said, “Of course, given the way that some discussions in this board have gone in the past, there’s always be the chance that we’d also find ourselves in an impromptu game of “Murder Mystery.”
    .
    And the real irony? Such a gathering occurs, and two people who’d been engaged in a intense flame war about some topic on the board are having a pleasant conversation about something totally unrelated to anything that’s come up on the board– both blissfully unaware of their mutual online battles.
    .
    PAD, I’m curious about the phrase “waiting on line.” That’s somewhat new to me. I’ve heard people talk about waiting in line. Is “waiting on line” a expression used by New Yorkers (or the east coast in general)? Or did you pick it up when you lived in Pennsylvania?
    .
    Bill Myers, to answer your question of whether you met Mulligan or a Mulligan-bot, do what Lois Lane did at least once (and probably more than once) during the Silver Age in her attempts to determine whether Clark was Superman. Go with “Mulligan” to some factory with a powerful electromagnet and when he’s standing under it, turn on the switch. You’ll know at once whether you’re dealing with a Mulligan-bot. In Lois’ situation, Superman had been bitten by some Kryptonian dragon (or similar creature), and the bite left puncture marks. After subsequently looking at Clark’s hand (with the excuse that she’d taken up the study of palmistry), she still wasn’t satisfied and pulled the “turn on the electromagnet” trick during a factory tour, just in case “Clark” was a robot.
    .
    Rick

    1. I dunno. I’ve just always said, “Waiting on line.” “He’s on the line for tickets.” “How long have you been waiting on line?”

      PAD

    2. The waiting “on line” thing is not just New York-based, Rick. It seems to be most of the Northeast in my opinion. I’ve never completely understood it myself, and I wish George Carlin had weighed in on it at some point.
      .
      It doesn’t bug me, though I’ve noticed it. What does bug me and has for years, though, is the phrase “waiting on X,” as in “We’re still waiting on his decision.” Huh?
      .
      TWL
      Pedant-at-Large

      1. I always figured “waiting on” was an extension of phrasing used in relation to service: A butler waiting on his boss, a waiter waiting on a diner. “Waiting on” meaning to stand around and wait for decisions to be made so that the server can fulfill them.
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        PAD

      2. Well, I decided to do some digging, and at least one site I found (grammarphobia.com) suggests that it’s been around for a long time and has nothing to do with waiters and the like.
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        Here’s the link: http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2007/08/wait-watching.html
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        And here’s a similar one: http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/grammarlogs5/grammarlogs605.htm
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        It sounds like it’s functionally equivalent to “waiting for,” albeit a variant that’s going to annoy some people. In any case, it’s interesting to see. I remember first reacting to it watching TNG’s “The Best of Both Worlds,” actually — Admiral Hansen uses the phrase when discussing Riker with Picard.
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        TWL

    3. Ah, but my background is in microbiology, not robotics. In all likelihood, my evil doubles are grown from huge vats of tissue cultures, mere blobs of carcinomic flesh carefully carved into the semblance of a human form. Disgusting on more levels than most things have levels.

  17. If I may take this opportunity to air a pet peeve: The interminable (and usually pointless) waits on line for the “media” events are probably the only thing I’ve genuinely come to hate about Comic-Con. Despite how the Con has grown over the years and how huge the crowds have become, the management still refuses to change their seating policy for the events in the big exhibition rooms. It’s still “first come, first seated” — which means they’re still giving preferential treatment to the “campers” who flood the room(s) first thing in the morning, take up at least half the seats, and stay all day, ensuring that those of us who do NOT have all day to spend in one room will have zero chance to get in.

    The fairest way to handle attendance for these events would be with a ticket system: Tickets, color-coded for each event, would be given out at staggered times and at several different locations (to avoid foot traffic congestion), ideally starting at least 24 hours before the event — all clearly delineated in the schedule booklet. Only as many tickets as there are seats in the room. One ticket per person, and each person’s badge would be stamped for that particular event to avoid anyone sneaking back in line for extras. Once the event is over, the room is cleared and the next group of ticket-holders is admitted. (If an attendee has a ticket for the next event in the room, it doesn’t matter; he still has to exit and re-enter.) Granted, clearing the room after each event would involve a little extra time and traffic management, but the alternative is the grossly unfair and infuriating system in place now. The massive attendance numbers these days would still mean not everyone who wanted to get into an event would be able to, but with a ticket system, everyone would at least have a chance.

    Sadly, the Con management will probably wait until someone is trampled to death before they decide that it’s time to make a change in their seating policy. Riverfront Stadium, anyone?

    1. I’ve been thinking much the same thing, but the problem is that the sheer number of people makes it problematic. No matter what you do, security forces are still going to be outnumbered by about 1000 to 1. All you need to do is have a bunch of people refuse to leave the room when they’re trying to clear it, and you’ve got a potential riot situation on your hands. That’s just what the convention needs: video of riot situations winding up on Youtube or even in the national news.
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      What the convention really needs to do is cut the number of media events in half and have overflow rooms with direct feed videos, similar to what they did with the masquerade.
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      PAD

      1. Yah, direct feeds for people there is obviously a given for people who can’t get in. It seems silly not too.

        I’m just wondering why they don’t simply stream the entire event live to the internet? Entire panels end up on youtube days afterwards (I’ve watched both Kevin Smith and the Lost panels in, basically, complete beginning to end barely a week afterwards). And people are transcribing it basically word for word and uploading it to website reports. So why not just go all out with it?

      2. So why not just go all out with it?
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        I wonder the same thing. After all, the con does have an attendance limit, as do the rooms. So not everybody who wants to see the stuff would be able to anyways. And I don’t think people being able to see events online (or even after a delay of hours or days) is going to keep them home from the convention.

      3. An excellent idea — even more workable than tickets. So what are they waiting for?
        The riot situation I was envisioning was a frustrated fan stuck outside the room being a little too eager to get a glimpse of the Hot Star du jour, and maybe trying to force his way through the doorway and getting shoved out, then getting pìššëd and shoving back, leading to someone ELSE getting shoved and then getting pìššëd and shoving back…

  18. With regard to “waiting on line” vs. “waiting in line”, it’s only been relatively recently that I’ve heard (or read, to be more precise) the former. Maybe it’s a Northeast thing, as Tim suggests; or maybe, for whatever reason the “vocabulary”, if you will, is changing (in centuries past, for example, the phrase “you was” (as opposed to “you were” was grammatically correct. Things changed.).
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    Along similar lines, it sounds odd to me to hear (or read) Sherlock Holmes say something like “You may call for me at my rooms in Baker Street.” To say that you live “in” such and such a street (and I’m guessing it’s not just fictional Brits who speak that way) suggests your home is literally in the middle of the street. But if you think about it, saying “I live on ____ street” (which is how I believe most Americans would put it) could also be read the same way. And I imagine Brits who say “in” were and are initially taken aback when Americans use the word “on.”
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    Tim, with regard to “waiting on (someone)” bugging you, I’m sure you know the inevitable result. The title will morph to Waiting on Godot.
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    Rick

    1. Anyone who changes Godot will find themselves “waiting on” finding an audience.

  19. Stan Freberg is on a short list of people who helped make me the person I am, people who I sorely want to meet before either of us dies. That list grows shorter almost daily. It used to include a lot of cartoon voice actors.

    He is one of the most brilliant satirists alive. He is good enough that his work has been misunderstood for being serious – a sure sign that you’re doing your job very well.

    The Wife and I quote him constantly. We often rhetorically book people we see on television and in the real world on a 412.

    1. For what it’s worth, Mr. and Mrs. Freberg both struck me as kind, nice, interesting, and funny people while I was helping them before and after their spotlight. People also seemed to be enjoying interacting with them at their Artists’ Alley table.

  20. Peter, did you have any reservations about adapting the work of Orson Scott Card on Shadow Complex? I ask because you’re one of the most outspoken creators on an issue of which he seems to be firmly on the opposite side. Also, my liberal guilt may keep me from playing the game and it looks really cool.

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