The issue everybody’s talking about. Whad’ja think?
PAD
79 comments on “OUT THIS WEEK: X-FACTOR #10”
“I’m thinking some kind of mind control on the traitor. S/he seemed fine, got a phone call, and then bam! Some sort of trigger word or something could have been invovled there. Of course, s/he could have just been getting instructions too.”
So will the traitor self-destruct or escape in a nuclear submarine?
Wade Tripp asked:
“Also, I am wondering is it on purpose that your comics come out all on the say week ( or almost always do )”
A problem throught the industry. Some creator’s books come out the same week every month.
Some companies put out all related titles in the same week. For instance, Dark Horse ships all the Star Wars titles the same week.
I bought several comics this week. I selected 4 that I expected to read right away. They were Justice, All Star Superman, Usagi Yojimbo, and X-Factor.
I read X-Factor first. X-Factor is some of your best work.
How old is Layla supposed to be anyway? I can never entirely tell, and I was sort of skeeved out by the implication that a dupe of Jamie might have had sex with her.
Yeah, although I find Layla’s comments of Jamie and her together extremely funny, I’m at the same time disturbed of the age different since she seems like she’s in her early teens.
Don’t know if it’s too late to jump in on the Jamie’s Powers speculations, but it seems to me that there is almost certainly a mental influence, probably sub-conscious, on his part as to what gets duped.
It has been shown in the past (Fatal Attaractions to be precise) that he can make a dupe appear where he wants. (Like inside an acolyte. Yuck.) It would seem, at least to me, that items of clothing get duped because, on some level, he accepts what he’s wearing as “part of him” in some way, shape, or form.
Now, if he had, say, Captain America’s shield, I doubt he could duplicate it, being “Captain America’s Shield” and all. Possibly if Xavier or some other particularly skilled telepath convinced him on a deep enough level that it was “Jamie Madrox’s Shield,” then it would duplicate, but what really would be the point?
Mystical/Cosmic items, on the other hand would be a completely different can of worms. Again, without being utterly convinced that it’s part of his uniform, no dice. Also, depending on the nature of the item, the universe may simply be incapable of supporting two or more of it, or its power may be split between them, the individual items becoming less and less powerful. Or the dupes may be duds entirely. Of course, when talking about something on the level of a Cosmic Cube or the Infinity Gauntlet, the items themselves would likely grant him the power to duplicate them along with himself, so it really becomes a moot point in that case.
Well, I think I’ve rambled on long enough…
I just had a thought though, that depending on how it was played, it could be amusing to see some threat that requires Cap handing off his shield to Madrox, Prof X doing his thing and having Jamie form the largest, most star-spangled shield wall ever. 😛
-Rex Hondo-
Hah! I liked the Jamie sequence. Though I honestly expected him to wake up with *himself*! That would’ve been a mindbender.
“Though I honestly expected him to wake up with *himself*! That would’ve been a mindbender.”
I think I speak for (most) everyone here when I say: Ewwwwwwwww!
Which does raise a famous science-fictional question –
If you have sex with your clone, is that incest, or just very elaborate mášŧûrbáŧìøņš?
Yow, I’m having flashbacks to The Time Traveller’s Wife.
-Rex Hondo-
Is anybody gonna throw a punch in this book? I read the last few issues in a row and it’s like reading Bendizzz light, lots of talk and no or little action.
I can’t wait to see more of Tryp’s history. I can’t wait to see where that revelation at the end goes. I can’t wait to see Leonard again.
Excellent issue with much-improved art. Not noir-ish, but readable fo sho.
Well I guess now that Tryp’s powers have been revealed we know how he killed Madrox’s parents.
If you have sex with your clone, is that incest, or just very elaborate mášŧûrbáŧìøņš?
My guess would be a healthy mix of both, cause your having sex with yourself, yet the dupe would be some sort of identical twin…..I’m sure that Monet and Theresa enjoyed the dupes in that way but I’m not sure if Jamie ever has 😉
I’ve always gotten a gay vibe from Madrox. Or a narcissistic vibe, at least (sort of like the gay vibe that everyone got from Fight Club before it turned out to be a form of narcissism).
I loved the issue, as always, although some of the dialogue seems a bit off (“They were great, powerful beings, with power and presence”?… “They want winds? I’ll give them winds!” Um, actually, no one ever mentioned winds).
$*%$#*^$!$#^&^$^$@
I read the last page of this issue and hated your guts, man.
I guess that means you’re doing it exactly right, so congrats.
One thigs for sure, I’m staying with the book.
1I was surprised by the ending. I am wondering if Layla is really predicitng that she is going to marry Madrox or that’s just wishful thinking.
Quick question about Jamie–when the dupes get reabsorbed, does he retain their memories as seperate, individual memories? Or do they all just kind of get chopped up and blended? Don’t know if I’m being clear. When the multiples become the single, are the memories compartmentalized? Or do they all just get squishied together?
Am I making any sense? Am I overthinking this?
Well, I think the question is clear enough. Granted, I haven’t read anything with Madrox in it for quite a while, but it seems to me that unless he had the mental capacity to compartmentalize the memories of re-absorbed dupes to some degree at least, he would have been driven completely mad by multiple conflicting memories, especially those of multiple viewpoints of the same event.
-Rex Hondo-
Freakin’ Awesome!
Okay…the more mature response…it was a great read. I am assuming the opening sequence will make more sense in a few issues.
That last two pages had me sitting slack jawwed.
Rex, EXACTLY! That’s just what I was thinking. I mean, that could be a whole story line. Madrox GOes Mad, or something. But, if I thought of it, I’m sure someone else has, so has it been done? I haven’t seen it, but that doesn’t mean anything, really. I don’t see as many comics as I’d like to lately.
“I mean, that could be a whole story line. Madrox GOes Mad, or something.”
Here’s the problem: I do that, and I get crucified by fans who will claim I’m regurgitating the Captain Marvel Goes Mad storyline.
PAD
Well hëll, you’re currently doing a multiple man suffering from his dupes having multiple personalities although you’ve already done someone with multiple personality disorder! And didn’t you have someone hit someone once? I think I remember that happening.
Rex Hondo: unless he had the mental capacity to compartmentalize the memories of re-absorbed dupes to some degree at least, he would have been driven completely mad by multiple conflicting memories, especially those of multiple viewpoints of the same event. (emphasis added)
Ooooh. Madrox as a one-man Roshamon. Could make an interesting issue.
PAD: Here’s the problem: I do that, and I get crucified by fans who will claim I’m regurgitating the Captain Marvel Goes Mad storyline.
Someone will get mad no matter what you do. (“Oh, look. David’s just regurgitating that Hulk Smashes Something storyline again.”) So if the idea appeals to you, do it. If it don’t, that’s fine, too. But I’d rather not miss out on an interesting PAD story for fear someone else may not appreciate it.
Okay, I didn’t think of the Captain Marvel thing. I know people that would say that, too. But these same people aren’t happy unless they’re complaining about something. But, hey, then I can complain about them.
Well, if you want to have Jamie go mad, a potential trigger could be to have a sort of “prodigal dupe” come home who had been captured at some point and had spent the last several years being tortured and brainwashed. The returning dupe may even be an amalgam of multiple dupes who had undergone similar treatment. (I know dupes can duplicate themselves, but I’m not sure if they can reabsorb the dupes they create.) The sudden influx of so much horror into his memory could just push him over the edge.
-Rex Hondo-
Loved the issue. My only problem was the twist at the end, which the previous page gave away. (It also didn’t help that the solicitation gave away the fact that there was a traitor in X-Factor. Unfortunately, it killed the surprise. I know that fans hunger for knowledge of what’s happening in the months ahead, but it diminishes the importance of the book that’s in your hands today.)
I thought it was great how you plugged your daughter’s bowling trophy at the end of the recap page.
“It always bugs me out when a quality writer can’t be matched up with a top notch illustrator. “
I like Raimondi, but this statement is bûllšhìŧ. Every illustrator on this book HAS been top notch, Sook, Callero, Martinez and JOSE VILLARRUBIA (the colorist) have all been great and it is actually now pet peeve of mine when people slam Callero, who kept the comic coming out and doing a great job at it when Sook could no longer do it. This is basically ungratefulness and nitpicking of the worst sort.
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“I’m thinking some kind of mind control on the traitor. S/he seemed fine, got a phone call, and then bam! Some sort of trigger word or something could have been invovled there. Of course, s/he could have just been getting instructions too.”
So will the traitor self-destruct or escape in a nuclear submarine?
Wade Tripp asked:
“Also, I am wondering is it on purpose that your comics come out all on the say week ( or almost always do )”
A problem throught the industry. Some creator’s books come out the same week every month.
Some companies put out all related titles in the same week. For instance, Dark Horse ships all the Star Wars titles the same week.
I bought several comics this week. I selected 4 that I expected to read right away. They were Justice, All Star Superman, Usagi Yojimbo, and X-Factor.
I read X-Factor first. X-Factor is some of your best work.
How old is Layla supposed to be anyway? I can never entirely tell, and I was sort of skeeved out by the implication that a dupe of Jamie might have had sex with her.
Yeah, although I find Layla’s comments of Jamie and her together extremely funny, I’m at the same time disturbed of the age different since she seems like she’s in her early teens.
Don’t know if it’s too late to jump in on the Jamie’s Powers speculations, but it seems to me that there is almost certainly a mental influence, probably sub-conscious, on his part as to what gets duped.
It has been shown in the past (Fatal Attaractions to be precise) that he can make a dupe appear where he wants. (Like inside an acolyte. Yuck.) It would seem, at least to me, that items of clothing get duped because, on some level, he accepts what he’s wearing as “part of him” in some way, shape, or form.
Now, if he had, say, Captain America’s shield, I doubt he could duplicate it, being “Captain America’s Shield” and all. Possibly if Xavier or some other particularly skilled telepath convinced him on a deep enough level that it was “Jamie Madrox’s Shield,” then it would duplicate, but what really would be the point?
Mystical/Cosmic items, on the other hand would be a completely different can of worms. Again, without being utterly convinced that it’s part of his uniform, no dice. Also, depending on the nature of the item, the universe may simply be incapable of supporting two or more of it, or its power may be split between them, the individual items becoming less and less powerful. Or the dupes may be duds entirely. Of course, when talking about something on the level of a Cosmic Cube or the Infinity Gauntlet, the items themselves would likely grant him the power to duplicate them along with himself, so it really becomes a moot point in that case.
Well, I think I’ve rambled on long enough…
I just had a thought though, that depending on how it was played, it could be amusing to see some threat that requires Cap handing off his shield to Madrox, Prof X doing his thing and having Jamie form the largest, most star-spangled shield wall ever. 😛
-Rex Hondo-
Hah! I liked the Jamie sequence. Though I honestly expected him to wake up with *himself*! That would’ve been a mindbender.
“Though I honestly expected him to wake up with *himself*! That would’ve been a mindbender.”
I think I speak for (most) everyone here when I say: Ewwwwwwwww!
Which does raise a famous science-fictional question –
If you have sex with your clone, is that incest, or just very elaborate mášŧûrbáŧìøņš?
Yow, I’m having flashbacks to The Time Traveller’s Wife.
-Rex Hondo-
Is anybody gonna throw a punch in this book? I read the last few issues in a row and it’s like reading Bendizzz light, lots of talk and no or little action.
I can’t wait to see more of Tryp’s history. I can’t wait to see where that revelation at the end goes. I can’t wait to see Leonard again.
Excellent issue with much-improved art. Not noir-ish, but readable fo sho.
Well I guess now that Tryp’s powers have been revealed we know how he killed Madrox’s parents.
If you have sex with your clone, is that incest, or just very elaborate mášŧûrbáŧìøņš?
My guess would be a healthy mix of both, cause your having sex with yourself, yet the dupe would be some sort of identical twin…..I’m sure that Monet and Theresa enjoyed the dupes in that way but I’m not sure if Jamie ever has 😉
I’ve always gotten a gay vibe from Madrox. Or a narcissistic vibe, at least (sort of like the gay vibe that everyone got from Fight Club before it turned out to be a form of narcissism).
I loved the issue, as always, although some of the dialogue seems a bit off (“They were great, powerful beings, with power and presence”?… “They want winds? I’ll give them winds!” Um, actually, no one ever mentioned winds).
$*%$#*^$!$#^&^$^$@
I read the last page of this issue and hated your guts, man.
I guess that means you’re doing it exactly right, so congrats.
One thigs for sure, I’m staying with the book.
1I was surprised by the ending. I am wondering if Layla is really predicitng that she is going to marry Madrox or that’s just wishful thinking.
Quick question about Jamie–when the dupes get reabsorbed, does he retain their memories as seperate, individual memories? Or do they all just kind of get chopped up and blended? Don’t know if I’m being clear. When the multiples become the single, are the memories compartmentalized? Or do they all just get squishied together?
Am I making any sense? Am I overthinking this?
Well, I think the question is clear enough. Granted, I haven’t read anything with Madrox in it for quite a while, but it seems to me that unless he had the mental capacity to compartmentalize the memories of re-absorbed dupes to some degree at least, he would have been driven completely mad by multiple conflicting memories, especially those of multiple viewpoints of the same event.
-Rex Hondo-
Freakin’ Awesome!
Okay…the more mature response…it was a great read. I am assuming the opening sequence will make more sense in a few issues.
That last two pages had me sitting slack jawwed.
Rex, EXACTLY! That’s just what I was thinking. I mean, that could be a whole story line. Madrox GOes Mad, or something. But, if I thought of it, I’m sure someone else has, so has it been done? I haven’t seen it, but that doesn’t mean anything, really. I don’t see as many comics as I’d like to lately.
“I mean, that could be a whole story line. Madrox GOes Mad, or something.”
Here’s the problem: I do that, and I get crucified by fans who will claim I’m regurgitating the Captain Marvel Goes Mad storyline.
PAD
Well hëll, you’re currently doing a multiple man suffering from his dupes having multiple personalities although you’ve already done someone with multiple personality disorder! And didn’t you have someone hit someone once? I think I remember that happening.
Rex Hondo: unless he had the mental capacity to compartmentalize the memories of re-absorbed dupes to some degree at least, he would have been driven completely mad by multiple conflicting memories, especially those of multiple viewpoints of the same event. (emphasis added)
Ooooh. Madrox as a one-man Roshamon. Could make an interesting issue.
PAD: Here’s the problem: I do that, and I get crucified by fans who will claim I’m regurgitating the Captain Marvel Goes Mad storyline.
Someone will get mad no matter what you do. (“Oh, look. David’s just regurgitating that Hulk Smashes Something storyline again.”) So if the idea appeals to you, do it. If it don’t, that’s fine, too. But I’d rather not miss out on an interesting PAD story for fear someone else may not appreciate it.
Okay, I didn’t think of the Captain Marvel thing. I know people that would say that, too. But these same people aren’t happy unless they’re complaining about something. But, hey, then I can complain about them.
Well, if you want to have Jamie go mad, a potential trigger could be to have a sort of “prodigal dupe” come home who had been captured at some point and had spent the last several years being tortured and brainwashed. The returning dupe may even be an amalgam of multiple dupes who had undergone similar treatment. (I know dupes can duplicate themselves, but I’m not sure if they can reabsorb the dupes they create.) The sudden influx of so much horror into his memory could just push him over the edge.
-Rex Hondo-
Loved the issue. My only problem was the twist at the end, which the previous page gave away. (It also didn’t help that the solicitation gave away the fact that there was a traitor in X-Factor. Unfortunately, it killed the surprise. I know that fans hunger for knowledge of what’s happening in the months ahead, but it diminishes the importance of the book that’s in your hands today.)
I thought it was great how you plugged your daughter’s bowling trophy at the end of the recap page.
“It always bugs me out when a quality writer can’t be matched up with a top notch illustrator. “
I like Raimondi, but this statement is bûllšhìŧ. Every illustrator on this book HAS been top notch, Sook, Callero, Martinez and JOSE VILLARRUBIA (the colorist) have all been great and it is actually now pet peeve of mine when people slam Callero, who kept the comic coming out and doing a great job at it when Sook could no longer do it. This is basically ungratefulness and nitpicking of the worst sort.