Bush, in describing Cindy Sheehan, stated, “She expressed her opinion. I disagree with it.”
This puts Cindy Sheehan in the company of military experts who told Bush things he didn’t want to hear prior to the attack on Iraq. Experts who turned out to be correct.
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Well, I think this is so far the greatest argument against Intelligent Design yet. What kind of universe do we live in when Pat freakin’ Robertson prays for something like this and it happens?
-Rex Hondo-
Robertson didn’t pray for Rehnquist’s death, Rex. He prayed for the death of the more liberal justices.
Of course, that might mean Robertson’s prayers are listened to and God has crappy aim. Uhhhhhh boy.
TWL
Actually, he just prayed for more openings.
Either way, it’s another justice that Shrub gets to appoint, and that CAN’T be a good thing.
-Rex Hondo-
I suppose someone is going to claim that this was arranged to take attention away from New Orleans…which was arranged to take attention away from Cindy Sheehan…which was arranged to take attention away from Valery Plame…
I suppose someone is going to claim that this was arranged to take attention away from New Orleans…which was arranged to take attention away from Cindy Sheehan…which was arranged to take attention away from Valery Plame…
I don’t. I suppose lots of people are going to make stupid straw man arguments, though.
On a more practical note, I for one hope that MoveOn and other groups really decide to keep their powder dry on the Roberts nomination in light of this. Roberts is by no means my favorite jurist, but from the looks of things we could be facing much, much worse. That means the odds are good that Bush’s second nomination WILL be much worse, which means that’s the one which needs the attention, not Roberts.
TWL
I don’t. I suppose lots of people are going to make stupid straw man arguments, though.
Never, ever underestimate the stupidity potential of people who are so blinded by ideology that they can’t tell how foolish they have become:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1751025&mesg_id=1751040
Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts)
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5. Bet he died days ago and they are just announcing it now to try and take the heat off bush. One man has died, well guess what, thousands have died and more are still dying.
n a more practical note, I for one hope that MoveOn and other groups really decide to keep their powder dry on the Roberts nomination in light of this.
That would be wise. Of course, Bush has cleverly positioned himself into being able to nominate a woman and/or minority for the Rehnquist position. Judge Edith Clements is both a woman AND from New Orleans, which will give her a very solid story to tell.
If Bush nominates another white male they will probably be dead meat regardless of his qualifications–unless, as you fear, too much capital is spent on trying to defeat Roberts, which seems unlikely (and, frankly, unjustified).
Never, ever underestimate the stupidity potential of people who are so blinded by ideology that they can’t tell how foolish they have become:
While I’ll concede the depressing point in this case, I would like to make two small notes:
1) I’ve griped here on occasion about people who hide behind pseudonyms, and the pseudonymous nature of fora like Democratic Underground makes it an even bigger problem. This could just as easily be someone on the right masquerading as an idiot on the left to make them look bad. I believe there have been confirmed reports of such things happening on both sides, so it’s not totally farfetched.
2) I assumed your original “this” in “this was arranged” to mean that someone would think the *death* was arranged, not the timing of the announcement. Both are somewhat over the top conspiratorial, but the latter is a couple of orders of magnitude less paranoid than the former.
TWL
I suppose someone is going to claim that this was arranged to take attention away from New Orleans…which was arranged to take attention away from Cindy Sheehan…which was arranged to take attention away from Valery Plame…
You forgot to figure out where Iraq fits into all of this. 😉
I’ve griped here on occasion about people who hide behind pseudonyms, and the pseudonymous nature of fora like Democratic Underground makes it an even bigger problem. This could just as easily be someone on the right masquerading as an idiot on the left to make them look bad. I believe there have been confirmed reports of such things happening on both sides, so it’s not totally farfetched.
You are, of course, absolutely correct. I often think, when I see someone of any political persuasion acting like an ace-high weenie, that either this is some kind of subtle performance art or that they are deliberately trying to look stupid.
Sadly, neither is usually the case; folks like “spazito” are woefully unaware of how bad they look and what an embarassment they are to sane believers of their political philosophies.
The only value of places like Democratic Underground and Free Republic is for people who need to see that others feel the same way they do can go in there and get the equivilant of a security blanket, safe from bothersome differences of opinion. I guess they are also good for people of opposing views to go and yank out some juicy quotes to laugh at.
Well, in my own defense as a pseudonym user, it’s mostly out of habit, having used the same pseudonym online for over a decade. *shrug* Besides, if I up and started using my real name after so long, people would have no idea it was me. 😛
Although, living in Indiana, home of the hate group, I can’t say I relish the thought people showing up at my door with torches and pitchforks because of some stuff I’ve said online.
-Rex Hondo-
Yeah, but you’re saying reasonable things and having actual conversations, Rex, so it’s not really an issue (at least for me). It’s the people who take advantage of anonymity to make drive-by posts that really get to me.
(I also didn’t even know that was a pseudonym in your case, but that may say more about me than anything else.)
TWL
I’ll be at the Sunday 12-3PM function, maybe even the Friday one as well. My band is doing a benefit in Baltimore’s Mt Washington area on Saturday. It’s for a young man with cancer.
Anyway, hope some of you can make it to this:
http://www.supportthetroopsweekend.org/