Madrox to be “Marvel Knight” title

(I apologize for any confusion about this post–I’d just started writing it and for some reason the program sent it all by itself. This is an edited and corrected version.)

Editor Andy Schmidt has informed me that “Madrox” is going to be under the “Marvel Knights” banner. Makes perfect sense to me: Although “Madrox” is not remotely as adult-oriented as “Fallen Angel,” the noir style of it positions it more for the older audience. And when you’re talking skewing older with a Marvel character, that’s “Marvel Knights.”

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22 comments on “Madrox to be “Marvel Knight” title

  1. Thanks P.A.D. for keeping us as up-to-date as possible on this title. I’m sure I speak for a lot of us when I say we always get a funny little tingling sensation up and down our spine when we hear any word on a new project of yours…but this one, to quote everyones favorite punker-vampire (Spike)is, “Well…neat!”.

    This is the series I dared to dream of but had little hope of it being anything more than that, and had almost no hope of it being placed in your hands should it ever come into being. Wow, I feel like I found a magic lamp and still have one wish left…come November if they have to change the name on the door I’ll know that I do indeed have an invisible lamp…ummm, someplace.

    Now lets all spread the word to everyone we pass on the streets and everyone we work with and make this sucker sell out fast!

  2. I’m probably the only person to notice, but the RSS feed for your blog seems to have been on the fritz for the past 3 1/2 months.

  3. We like to bash Marvel when they do stuff wrong, so let me hurrah this time when they get it right.

    The Knights imprint signals immediately to the casual reader the type of stories to expect. It makes the title easier to promote, and it is not lost in the dozens of other mutant titles out there presently.

    Now let’s hope everybody here puts their money where their sympathies lie and buy the hëll out of that mini-series so it’ll force an ongoing one. The type of complex characters Peter writes need room and time to develop, more than four or six issues will do.

  4. We all need to not just buy the book, but let the retailers know we want it in advance, so they will order enough. Since very few retailers will order heavy on anything but the “blockbuster” books, we need to get those initial orders up, so we don’t walk into our favorite comic shop and have to fight over one or two copies.

  5. Why steal Bibles? Why not just go to a Christian bookstore and ask for one? I mean, they can’t refuse, can they?

  6. What or perhaps who is Madrox? Since it has Peter’s name on it I will pick up the book because I know it will be well written. Still it would be nice if I knew what the hëll I was buying so I could have some idea of what to expect. I am in a simular boat with Ricard Dragon. I love the creative team, but after reading one issue I still don’t know what the title about.

  7. Call me dumb but I missed the cliff notes on Marvel Knights all those years ago.

    Are the books under the imprint considered to be part of the “official” marvel universe?

    For example, what’s the difference between the Marvel Knights Fantastic Four and the “normal” Fantastic Four? Are they same team, same universe, same everything — except one series is aimed at older readers — or are they two separate universes altogether?

    For that matter, is the Jamie Madrox the same guy who was featured in X-Factor all those years ago (with the same continuity, etc.)?

    I didn’t try the new “Marvel Knights” Captain America after the relauch because no one clearly said that this was the same character that I’ve been reading on and off since 1984. From the reviews, it sounded like a totally different universe with a different focus and not something I was interested in buying each month.

    I plan to buy the new Madrox book, but with all these universes/imprints from Marvel my head starts to spin after a while. 🙂

    Best,

    k9

  8. Are the books under the imprint considered to be part of the “official” marvel universe?

    For example, what’s the difference between the Marvel Knights Fantastic Four and the “normal” Fantastic Four? Are they same team, same universe, same everything — except one series is aimed at older readers — or are they two separate universes altogether?

    For the most part, they’re (ostensibly) geared towards older readers (though not to the extent of the Max line) and tend to be more “realistic.”

    By “realistic,” I mean (for the most part) few (if any) super-villains, darker “grim ‘n gritty” artwork, and stories clearly sized for TPB collection.

    The poster child for the Knights line is Daredevil. I ended up dropping it due to issue after issue of Matt & Foggy having the same conversation about Matt’s identity being exposed.

    Now, on the bright side…I have much more faith in Peter working in the Knights framework than…well…just about anyone. So, I’m greatly looking forward to Madrox. The PAD fanboy in me is positive he’ll show ’em how it’s done.

  9. “I ended up dropping it due to issue after issue of Matt & Foggy having the same conversation about Matt’s identity being exposed.”

    I didn’t read it so I can’t be sure, but maybe they were in some kind of time loop… or something.

    (Or maybe you were; dun dun dun dunnnnn….)

  10. is this series about Jamie Madrox?
    because if this is….it should seriously kick ášš!

  11. The only real concern I have about this is the commercial viability of the Marvel Knights line. If you look at the month-to-month numbers on The Pulse website, MK books just don’t do as well as they should, IMHO. Some of this is the result of the works of the line- Hulk, for example, has been in a creative rut for about a year- but even the new Spider-Man title didn’t sell that well given that it’s Spider-Man. I would think this book would sell better if marketed as an X-book than an MK book.

    Here’s wishing it success!

  12. Marvel Knights? *shrug* I don’t see the need for it or why it’s still aroung. This will not make me any more likely to pick up this title. I will give it the usual 3 issues to hook me even though it’s a mini. I gave Fallen Angel 6 before I gave up.

  13. James Knine,
    To answer your questions:

    1.) Most of the Marvel Knights line IS part of the “official” Marvel Universe, “Daredevil” being a perfect example,though there are exceptions.

    2.) The difference between the regular Fantastic Four book and the Knights one is that the Knights one is pretty bad. The Knights one has the FF bankrupt, which is flawed from the start. With all their powers, you would think they could find some way to make money. I do believe when the Knights “4” is inevitably cancelled, this series will be conveniently forgotten (like I said, there are exceptions)

    3.) The “Knights” Cap was actually thought-provoking stuff, dealing with terrorism and the like in a non-traditional superhero manner. The Knights run has simultaneously called “goverment propaganda” and “anti-American”, so you know they must have been doing something right:)
    Unfortunately it looks like Cap will be leaving the Knights line in favor of stories dealing with AIM, robots, etc. How unfortunate.

  14. The problem with the “If you’re thinking Adult books, you think Marvel Knights” is that its correlary is equally evil: “If you’re thinking Marvel Knights, you’re thinking a cost-prohibitive $2.99/issue.”

  15. but even the new Spider-Man title didn’t sell that well given that it’s Spider-Man.

    Or it could be the fact that people really don’t want to have yet ANOTHER Spider-Man comic to buy.

  16. When the Marvel Knights line was started, it seemed like the goal was to take characters like Daredevil, the Punisher, and Black Widow that at the time had fallen by the wayside breathe new life into them by allowing the quasi independent team of Quesada and Palmiotti some wider latitude in the way the characters were handled. Then, Palmiotti pulled out and Quesada became Marvel EIC and there were rumors that MK would simply fold.

    Now the FF and Captain America were given MK titles and it doesn’t seem like the goal was to promote lesser known characters. Nor do the titles seem all that more “adult” than many of the non-MK titles, just that they’re usually inked darker.

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