…oh wait, there are some of you who haven’t seen the episode yet. We’ll just continue it in the “read more” section to avoid spoilers.
There. Now, the question was asked, “How come Lorne didn’t read the puppeteer when he was singing, so that he’d know what’s going on?”
Simple– the puppeteer was played by David Fury. It’s a rule– characters NEVER know what the writers have planned.
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I hope no one minds if I suggest that for a forum of individuals drawn together in appreciation of a show that might not exist after the end of this television season, we seem to be a right passive lot. While there is a lot of talk about the merits or demerits of each episode of Angel, I’d like to see a bit more assertiveness, if not outright aggression, in the write in campaign to keep the dámņ thing on the air. Right now I have little to no idea about what anyone is doing and I think this lack of information might be frustrating So, I’m going to start right here right now. Today I purchased twenty-two stamped postcards and got twenty-two people to fill them out. Last night I got information to four individual at work who expressed a willingness to write in and participate. Tomorrow I’m taking more information to the local comic book store.
This isn’t the time to wait. In the Sixties a struggling show pitched to the Network as a sort of “Wagon Train to the Stars”, wasn’t rescued from cancelation by individuals bemoaning it’s loss to each other but by them joining together and expressing their collective dissatisfaction to the Powers That Be.
Twenty-two postcards. That’s not much, but it’s a hëll of a lot better than doing nothing.
In the Sixties a struggling show pitched to the Network as a sort of “Wagon Train to the Stars”, wasn’t rescued from cancelation by individuals bemoaning it’s loss to each other but by them joining together and expressing their collective dissatisfaction to the Powers That Be.
Actually, it was saved by its creator starting a letter-writing campaign, which was later discovered to have been made up almost entirely of letters written by the creator and his friends.
I thought it was pretty good. I must admit, I had my doubts after seeing the preview, but the episode was hilarious. Especially the fight with Spike.
Loved this episode. Creepy and yet hilarious!
One thing that puzzles me though…
Anyone know why, when Angel goes to the ‘Egg’ room for the first time there’s a bald, buddha-sitting bad guy with a towel on his head and then later (on Angel’s return) he’s no longer there or reffered to. Seemed pretty pointless to include him at all.
John
Nippilage (which sounds like a Winter Olympic sport): Yes, I caught it too — but I think it probably was a pasty, as someone else suggested.
I’m surprised no one else has mentioned this, though — I’d have died if Seth Green had been available for this episode. Not because Greg the Bunny was particularly good or anything…but darn, that would have been funny to have Oz back in an episode with a werewolf and sentient puppets.
Cheers, Jon
in answer to your question regarding if anyone is doing anything besides moaning about the show being canned, I’ve sent in a slew of postcards to the addresses, and have been harrassing my friends to do the same.
The figure in the room was the Puppeteer in his “off mode”.
I am thinking of making “Talk to the hand” my new sig line
“Anyone know why, when Angel goes to the ‘Egg’ room for the first time there’s a bald, buddha-sitting bad guy with a towel on his head and then later (on Angel’s return) he’s no longer there or reffered to. Seemed pretty pointless to include him at all”
John that guy was the puppet(well human come puppet) that you see talking to Lorne and Gunn when they visit the studio.
Ok was just beaten to it 🙂
About the save angel campaign – there are too many differant ones we need something like the save farscape site so that its all centralised and can have a bigger effect.
Are we to believe that Mr. “I’ve been on the Internet for 20 years” is still using something as antiquated as a VCR??
I switched to DirecTV and TiVo in 2002. TV has been SO much simpler:
No worries about switching tapes
one TiVo can record TWO shows at the same time.
Just my $0.02
Fairy snuff on the puppeteer/towel figure, which – of course – is perfectly logical when I bother to think about it.
Kudos to David Fury for playing him. And no mustard in sight!
John
This group seems to be taking the lead in the “Save Angel” campaign.
http://www.savingangel.org/
Hope this helps anyone who wants to participate.
http://www.saveangel.org.
Also this one as well, seems there is bad blood between them both. They need to work together if they have a hope. Anubis save us from ego
Virtually everybody involved with Angel has repeatedly denied that there were any problems with Glenn Quinn on the set. The actors, especially DB, have repeatedly said how much they missed Quinn and that he was one of the most likable people they’d ever worked with. DB said that Quinn was “like a brother to me”
Joss & Co created Doyle with the idea that they could kill him in order to illustrate an “anything can happen; even a character in the credits can be killed off.” atmosphere for Angel. Joss actually wanted to do that with Jessie in the first year of Buffy, but it didn’t work out, so he decided to do it for Angel. They weren’t 100% certain they would kill him, but they developed the early episodes as if they were going to. In the end, they decided to go through with it, partly because they felt Doyle was too much like Angel as a character – quiet, brooding, etc.
Regarding Doyle being killed off from Angel. I was at I-Con at Stoney Brook University several years ago where Nicholas Brendan (Xander) appeared. During one Q&A session he was asked about Doyle and he alluded to the fact that there were personal problems involved and that was the reason he was no longer on the show. I remember PAD was in the audience and asked a question that I am sure was on most people’s minds at the time. Of all the Buffy women who was the best kisser: Xander’s answer – Alyson Hannigan – I would have guessed Charisma Carpenter.
All the comments about selling Angel puppets reminds me of years ago, when NIGHT COURT had an episode about ventriloquists which ended with one of them creating a dummy version of Bull (Richard Moll’s character). Not long after that, in the Warner Bros. catalog, they were selling Dummy Bulls. Could the same happen to Angel?
SavingAngel.org and SaveAngel.org need to work together. They both look lik ethey’re doing different things. There’s a lot more users active on SaveAngel but SavingAngel looks nicer and has raised money for some ads. I don’t know who came first, but that shouldn’t matter. What does matter is they’re all trying to “Save Angel” right?
>Toot<
Regarding the Nina nipple issue, I have a TiVo and checked carefully, and yes there is one frame in which an erect nipple is clearly visible. At first I thought it might be part of a finger, but in looking at the frames before and after, it can’t be. It is a nipple.
I’m happier donating my money to http://www.savingangel.com because I’ve been an online Buffy/Angel fan for nearly three years, and I’ve heard of some of the people behind savingangel.com . Look at all the websites that are affiliated with it. It’s also made very clear on the website where the money is going to go.
Well, hello, “at,” we really must stop meeting like this — people will talk! But of course you’ve heard of the people behind “Saving Angel.com” — you’re one of them! More power to you, bro. Keep up the good work. Save Angel!