According to the US military, things are increasingly going down the tubes in Iraq. Check out who's predicting disaster:
" The analysis was prepared by the command's intelligence directorate, which is overseen by Brig. Gen. John M. Custer."
General Custer. No wonder we're screwed.
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Posted by Peter David at November 2, 2006 11:58 AM | TrackBack | Other blogs commentingAt least this time its your side who get to use the Tomahawk...
To qoute my Step-Dad who is a moron "what we need to do is simply get all the gays, liberals, non Christians and femenists and ship them to the middle east and then nuke the whole place and hope they dont mutate into atomic super men."
Of course Iraq is a mess, a country has to want democracy and change, their people have to rise up and fight for it. How would it turn out if America was invaded by a group of people who claimed our government was evil and decided that they were going to take over and change things "for the better".
You'd think FORCING freedom on a nation would work.
Who knew.
oh, right, all the military experts that were fired before the war.
Chris said:
Of course Iraq is a mess, a country has to want democracy and change, their people have to rise up and fight for it. How would it turn out if America was invaded by a group of people who claimed our government was evil and decided that they were going to take over and change things "for the better".
To which I say:
"If?"
Well, the first response would be history repeating itself, so I won't go there.
The second response would be something about what goes around, etc. etc and so on. Nope, not there either.
No, the thing that occurs to me, is when even Custer sees it coming....
Chris, your stepfather's last name wouldn't happen to be Bush, would it?
In the immortal words of the first General Custer, "Take no prisoners!"
Well, all that went through my mind was, "Geez, what a hard-luck name to have in the military. He's got to have heard all the bad jokes about a million times."
We've all probably heard of Godwin's Law: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
I'd like to offer Carter's Corollary, if it hasn't yet been coined: "As the lifespan of a weblog increases, the probability that the blog will evolve from its original theme into one of anti-administration politics approaches one."
Unfortunately, R.J., I'm not really sure what the theme of this blog is supposed to be. Mind informing me?
Many have been the debated reasons on why things aren't working out well in Iraq. But at least we can all reast easy knowing that the GOP has decided to place the blame where it belongs.
This is all the Generals' fault.
www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2328683.php
Why, how dare these vile men, these military "experts", ask for what felt they needed (manpower, weapons, equipment, other tools, etc.) to win, from day one get told they would make due with what Rummy thought was best for them and nothing more and then still go on to screw up Rummy's great master plan and Bush's shiney, happy victory in Iraq.
Just who do these "Generals" think they are?!?
"Who do they think they are?"
Trained soldiers who've got a lot more sense about what they need to win a war than the paper pushers who control the money.
As bad as this mess is, I don't think a tactical brain trust composed of Alexander of Macedonia, William the Conqueror, Frederick Barbarossa and George Patton could win this one for us. And when you consider that all we've got is Bush, Chaney and Rumsfeld, we are all well and truly screwed.
The sad thing is it appears to me any story that's negative about our war forces in Iraq the lot of you jump on it as if it were the gospel truth. Any positive news you hear about us in Iraq you dismiss as government lies and propoganda. People on the "left" are so opened minded huh?
Any positive news you hear about us in Iraq you dismiss as government lies and propoganda.
Given that reporters have been instructed not to report good news to avoid reprisals, I'm not so sure that it's a bad procedure to take.
What's so open minded about not being critical of a Secretary of War that forbade contingency planning for post Hussein? What's open-minded for ignoring the use of torture? What's open-minded about being so arrogant we're right that we don't bother to put error-checking procedures in capturing terrorists?
I dunno. Doesn't sound like open-mindedness on your part...it sounds like you just let your brains fall out. And you're not even realizing who was and who was not on your side when this whole Iraq thing began. THAT'S the sad thing.
Secretary of War? We have a Secretary of War again? Or did I just wake up in 1947? :-)
"My FATHER was Sergeant John Custer, and the only thing ran in his veins was iron!"
Come on, no other Preacher fans?
(entered from memory, apologies if I mangled the quote or Jesse's daddy's rank)
"The sad thing is it appears to me any story that's negative about our war forces in Iraq the lot of you jump on it as if it were the gospel truth. Any positive news you hear about us in Iraq you dismiss as government lies and propoganda. People on the "left" are so opened minded huh?"
That's funny, I don't see anyone doing that. All I see is you completely missing the point of this thread, and indirectly calling everyone closed-minded based on no evidence, while using a puerile screen name. So, yeah, you might want to swim to firm ground before you open your mouth.
The Eastern front isn't doing so well? General Steiner will save us.
We've been dismissing positive news from Iraq as government lies and propaganda because so much of has been exactly that. I get my news about the war from friends who've been there; from Frank, who's part of a construction battalion, and has seen the mess up close and personal; from Darwin, a bird colonel who commands a armored unit, and is in the thick of things daily; and from Glenn, one of my old coworkers at Dell, who's a sergeant with an infantry unit.
These guys and more are the ones I get my news from, guys who are there, not the spin doctors at the White House or the media whores at Fox. I want to know the truth, not the niou-se that Bush thinks I'll swallow.
Rant mode terminated.
Miles
By the way....did folks know that the Administration had put up a website that inadvertantly had instructions on how to construct a nculear bomb...in Arabic?
Could have caught that "little" gaffe if they had more translators. Of course, they weren't so concerned about the private lives of the translators they HAD, it wouldn't have been a problem...
Bunch of incompetent clowns. They're the real kings of Political Correctness, where ideology trumps experience, expertise and reality....
"What's so open minded about not being critical of a Secretary of War that forbade contingency planning for post Hussein?"
This administration is not big on the planning thing. No contingency plans for Iraq. No contingency plans for natural disasters. And lately it's been reported that there are no contingency plans for how the White House will work with the Dems if (or when) they take control of the House and/or the Senate.
Apparently, the only responsibility this chief executive seems to have is to his own hubris.
"Bunch of incompetent clowns. They're the real kings of Political Correctness, where ideology trumps experience, expertise and reality...."
"Apparently, the only responsibility this chief executive seems to have is to his own hubris."
I've read a lot of stuff on Hitler and the Nazis, and except for their talent at putting together a strong military machine and actually knowing how to use it tactically, they seem to be a lot like the Bush Administration... Rommel was held back by bureaucratic nonsense, and the only reason Messerschmidt couldn't deploy the 262 in time to do the Reich any good is because of hidebound thinking by Goering, who insisted that planes have a thousand mile range and be able to carry a thousand pounds of bombs.
That same sort of stupidity is going to get our asses stomped in Iraq. We are becoming hated by just about everyone in the world, and it's all because of Bush and Arab oil. It's hubris and greed, nothing but.
Miles
The Bush administration can talk all they like about how ultimately history will be the judge of their actions, or ultimately history will vindicate them. Whatever. I foresee history being kinder to George Armstromg Custer than to Donald Rumsfeld.
Chris wrote: To qoute my Step-Dad who is a moron "what we need to do is simply get all the gays, liberals, non Christians and femenists and ship them to the middle east and then nuke the whole place and hope they dont mutate into atomic super men."
If we're starting a pool here, I'll wager his step-dad is John Byrne. (see http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Byrne#Terrorism ) :p
If we're starting a pool here, I'll wager his step-dad is John Byrne.
Wow, some of those quotes are on par with the kind of garbage Ann Coulter spews.
Did you guys hear that Ann Coulter might've committed a felony? For voting in the wrong district? You'd think someone who spends so much time claiming to be so much more intelligent than her opposition would know WHERE SHE LIVES.
"That's funny, I don't see anyone doing that. All I see is you completely missing the point of this thread, and indirectly calling everyone closed-minded based on no evidence, while using a puerile screen name. So, yeah, you might want to swim to firm ground before you open your mouth."
That's funny, maybe you should try opening your eyes. And whats even funnier is your going on about opening your mouth considering whats coming out of it.
Major military newspaper editorials are calling for Rumsfeld's resignation (rarely are the uber-rich politicians, executives, et. al., "fired", but "resign").
-- Ken from Chicago
"General Custer. No wonder we're screwed."
Says the man who is named after the Hebrew king that slept with another man's wife and sent that man out to battle to be killed.
At least Custer believed he was doing the right thing and paid for his mistake with his own blood.
"The sad thing is it appears to me any story that's negative about our war forces in Iraq the lot of you jump on it as if it were the gospel truth. Any positive news you hear about us in Iraq you dismiss as government lies and propoganda. People on the "left" are so opened minded huh?"
It would seem to me that the troops would be a lot more effective if they didn't have to worry about protecting the press at the same time that they're trying to fight a war.
If the news is always going to be bad anyway, what's the sense of them being there?
I'm sure I'd be really motivated to protect a persons who's over there with me who's only job is to tell my folks back home how I'm not doing a very good job and how we're losing...I'd sooner want to put a bullet in HIS head as opposed to the enemy---
"Did you guys hear that Ann Coulter might've committed a felony? For voting in the wrong district? You'd think someone who spends so much time claiming to be so much more intelligent than her opposition would know WHERE SHE LIVES."
Oh yeah. that's MUCH more heinous than letting unregistered immigrants and corpses register to vote, isn't it?
Posted by: Ben Bradley at November 6, 2006 10:38 AM
I'm sure I'd be really motivated to protect a persons who's over there with me who's only job is to tell my folks back home how I'm not doing a very good job and how we're losing...I'd sooner want to put a bullet in HIS head as opposed to the enemy---
Sparky, you silver-tongued devil, you! You know, what with your suave charm and well-honed intellect, I find it hard to believe that women still won't give you the time of day.
Ah, well, don't worry about it, Sparky. You're on the right track. Just continue with your obsession with insulting people online and I'm sure eventually you'll have women throwing themselves at you just like in those Tag Body Spray commercials.
Don't get me wrong... But... Isn't true that things are not going well in Iraq? I mean, the idea of bringing democracy to a country is a good one, but invading it with an army and establishing an occupation force wasn't a bad tactic, especially when dealing with bitter religious fanatics, whom are not afraid to die?
I'm sure this General Custer is telling something that anyone over there already knows. Besides, people should know the truth about this occupation. To ignore the same people that elected the actual goverment is, at best, an agression to the same freedom the soldiers were suppose to bring to the Iraq people.
I can understand that people wanting to defend their country's goverment actions, but... To be patriot is to think what is best to your country, not what the your goverment tells you it is best.
Now I stand ready to be attacked. *defensive pose*
=)