I think I'm going to start putting together a scrapbook of the enthusiastic reviews this series is getting. It's easily the best reviewed series I've ever written.
Currently, thefourthrail.com has a glowing write-up for the trade paperback, while aintitcoolnews.com had nothing but praise for issue #12.
Let's hope some fans start noticing.
PAD
Posted by Peter David at June 18, 2004 07:33 PM | TrackBack | Other blogs commentingHopefully they'll recognize it soon, the number for #11 doesn't look promising.
I think your politics stink and I'm not close to being a gushing fan of your work but I thought I'd give the Fallen Angel TPB a try. I'll let you know what I think. I promise I'll be 'fair and balanced'.
You really should do your damnedest (sp?) to get DC to move this title to Vertigo. I went back and re-read all the issues in one sitting and it read much better that way. Really good stuff, but it would probably fare better under the Vertigo imprint.
Despite owning every issue of the series so far, I got the trade paperback today to support the series (plus, I like having stories I enjoy in one easy volume - thanks DC!)
I'd love to see a Vertigo imprint on the title. It certainly fits.
No matter where the title goes, however, I'm along for the ride. I've enjoyed the series immensely. Keep up the good work, PAD!
I'll add to the chorus here: I wonder if you'd find more of a market with a Vertigo imprint.
Me -- still buying, still reading, still enjoying. I hope enough people pay attention to give this series some stability!
TWL
A while back, you said regarding Fallen Angel and your comics career, "If that's snubbed, I may decide to pack it in."
Do you still feel that way, or are things looking brighter these days?
'Cause let's face it, nobody's original titles are selling well these days. Look where Grant Morrison's Seaguy debuted this month. In terms of comics, you might be better off just pitching for high profile assignments, and saving your original work for novels.
I dunno, does that make any sense?
Peter:
As much as I like "Fallen Angel" (and your work in general), maybe it would be for the best to move this title to the Vertigo imprint.
If I understand all the facts right, "FA" would not need sales figures as high under the V-imprint as it does now under the regular DC bullet to be a 'success'; and DC is already putting a "Suggested for Mature Readers" label on it.
You've said yourself that there's been trouble trying to "properly catogorize it", so what (if anything) do you have to lose?
Besides, as a Vertigo title, you can probably go even more all out than you are now, if that's possible on "FA".
Just food for thought from a humble reader.
Yeah, I think it is funny how a book like Losers sells around the same number of issues each month as FA and is considerd a succes while FA's success rides on the sale of this one TPB. If only FA had that little "Vertigo" logo up in the corner....
Lee: My guess is that Peter has probably already suggested this to DC since it's been suggested here a few times, and to my knowledge he hasn't commented on it. I assume that if it is moving to Vertigo, an announcment will be made when the time is right.
Best reviewed? Rightly so. I think that (on a whole) this is your best work to date, of what I've read.
#12 was a week late in arriving to Holland (GRRR), so I only read it yesterday. Charming, and the 'Bong bong bong' part made me laugh out loud... which I'm not sure I should be proud of but, well.
I'm still throwing this at people buying books at my store. We're fully stocked in all the back issues, so I've been offering a money back guarantee to those I point in its direction.
Aside from the joy of sharing what I like with someone else, I know I've been in retail too long when I get excited with the thrill of the hand-sell. :)
Peter, have you given any thought to some kind of big push for "Fallen Angel" at Dragon*Con this year? This seems to be the type of book that many of the Dragon attendees would get into. Maybe more than just being set up down in Artist Alley?
"Hopefully they'll recognize it soon, the number for #11 doesn't look promising."
The number is more or less the same as it was for #10, and for #9.
The book may be undergoing what I refer to as ASOS--Assured Sell-Out Syndrome. I saw it any number of times back in my sales days as I would be visiting with retailers and trying to get them to increase their draws on Marvel books. I'd go over their order sheets with them, and I cannot tell you the number of times I'd have the following discussion. (I'll use GI JOE for this example, but the title(s) varied from store to store:)
PAD: I notice that over the past half year you've ordered ten copies of GI JOE every month.
RETAILER: Yup.
PAD: And you've sold out every month.
RETAILER: Yup.
PAD: Have you considered bumping your order up to eleven or twelve copies?
RETAILER: Nope.
PAD: Why not?
RETAILER: Because then I might not sell out.
Now of course, selling out is a good thing. Nevertheless, the point is that it's a mindset that can make it hard to build up numbers.
I'm not saying that *every* retailer is doing this with FALLEN ANGEL. I'm sure there are some who have copies of every issue available. But I get enough e-mails and queries from fans who tell me they can't find it in their stores to make me think that ASOS could be contributing to the lack of growth.
PAD
I will say that my store said that the trade "sold more and faster than we were expecting." Clearly that means the word of mouth must be getting to SOMEONE, so that's good news...
TWL
RETAILER: Because then I might not sell out.
Now of course, selling out is a good thing.
But isn't the objective in that sort of business to have one copy left over at the end of the month?
That way you know everyone who wanted one got a copy, and you still have one for anyone who comes looking for back issues.
I thought that was Business 101.
Sorry, more of that was a quote of PAD:
RETAILER: Because then I might not sell out.
Now of course, selling out is a good thing.
But isn't the objective in that sort of business to have one copy left over at the end of the month?
That way you know everyone who wanted one got a copy, and you still have one for anyone who comes looking for back issues.
I thought that was Business 101.
"Aside from the joy of sharing what I like with someone else, I know I've been in retail too long when I get excited with the thrill of the hand-sell. :)"
Actually, you know you've been in retail too long when you no longer *care* about the hand-sell. I worked in comics retail for about eight years, have been out of it for about ten, and i still miss that....
"I think your politics stink and I'm not close to being a gushing fan of your work but I thought I'd give the Fallen Angel TPB a try."
Congrats, you don't have to like everything about a person to enjoy some of that person's work. I might have to check out this book too, once my current financial crisis is over.
Matt, you hit the nail right on the head. From the Mirco-Economic level, the ultimate goal in retail is generally to have one copy left on the shelves as it indicates that you ordering was effectively dead-on. If you sell out, then there's no telling how many more you sold, but if there's only one left, then you know you sold as many as you could.
Of course, this example works better if you have, say, a hundred items that you put out on the shelf instead of, say, three. Putting out three copies and only selling two will sound really bad to a retailer as it means 33% of the product failed to clear.
Peter, I hope the TPB does well, but I'm afraid I won't be contributing. I bought the book as it came out monthly. I NEVER "wait for the trade" as I want to give support to the books in original publication. I'm afraid I'm too poor to buy them again, however...
I think all 12 issues so far should still be on my reviews site (the URL linked to my name), if you haven't been copying them off Usenet (or if I haven't remembered to crosspost 'em all, which seems likely).
Peter, I've been a bit of a "silent" supporter of FA on the 'net. However, I'm always highly recommending this title to anyone and everyone (as do my friends who work at the comic shop).
I've been purchasing the monthlies, and picked up the trade as well just to show my support. I'm going to be passing around the trade to some more friends and *hopefully* point them in the right direction. I also believe a move to Vertigo may be the right one.
Anyways, yup...loving the book. Great stuff!
paperbackreader.com also featured FA in their "Why Aren't You Reading This Comic?" section, so there's another for the scrapbook.
I'm personally going to heavily recommend the trade to a friend of mine who likes cool noir-y stuff but doesn't read too many comics. I already own the singles, and plan to continue buying the series as long as it's out, but can't afford to spring for the trade as well. Although I'll probably flip through it in a bookstore to look at the extras.
But isn't the objective in that sort of business to have one copy left over at the end of the month?
That way you know everyone who wanted one got a copy, and you still have one for anyone who comes looking for back issues.
I thought that was Business 101.
Well, yeah....but there are enough doofuses in the retail business who can stand to take Biz 101 for Dummies that it severly affects the industry.
No offence to competent retailers, but if even 10-15 percent of retailers are displaying Assured Sell Out Syndrome, then that goes a long way towards explaining the downward spiral of comic sales over the years....
PAD,Roger, and Matt,
Yes! This is what really drives me crazy with the comic industry today. As much as people's first instinct is to bash Marvel and DC - who do, obviously deserve it occasionally - the BIG reason even the "big-selling" books don't sell as well as they could is because of ASOS. Which is BAD BUSINESS any way you slice it. Whether it is "Astonishing X-Men" or "Fallen Angel", the goal of any business should be to ENCOURAGE GROWTH! But too many retailers are obsessed with "guaranteed" sales, they don't think outside the box, they don't push books, and they have pretty much gotten so lazy with trades, they don't even think about extra issues for their back issue stock. I remember this one retailer in Philly I tried to include in some comic stories to get them some press, and they would literally bitch at me whenever I would do a Top 10 Hulk Comics (or whatever list at the time) because they didn't have those back issues in stock! Like that's MY responsibility (and 7 of the 10 were from your run, Peter, so it's not like they were Silver Age books they had to hunt down!)I should concentrate on the trades, they say!
Also, they order so few copies, they then only sell one per person, no matter how hot the book gets! Somebody wants to buy 2 copies of "The Truth" so he can give one to his grandson? Nope! Somebody from a local firehouse walks TWENTY BLOCKS so he can buy issues of "The Call" for his fellow firemen? NOSIREE BOB! have to discourage those pesky speculators, you know! (And do you think they contacted this guy an made sure to order 20 more copies of the next issue? That would be a NO!
There is one retailer in Scranton, and we were just talking about ASOS. I remarked that he had every issue of "Fallen Angel" save one from #3-12, and how this was really going to let me catch up. Same with "Ultimate Spider-Man", "Superman", "Wonder Woman" (which I also caught up about six issues on). he feels it's good to have a few recent issues on hand to help people catch up to what's going on, especially when every story seems like it's five or six parts.
He was amazed when Itold him he was the only store in the area to have "Astonishing X-Men" #1 in stock two days after it hit the shelves. All the other stores sold out! ASOS struck again!
He couldn't believe it. He was like, "I can't understand the mentality of people who feel you have to sell out in ONE WEEK. How do you get new fans that way? How do you grow that way?"
Good questions.
Unfortunately, many retailers do not follow his lead.
Unfortunately, many comic shops are run by fans instead of retailers. They look at only one type of product - whatever they order from Diamond. It can be comics, magazines, Magic Cards, whatever. They might take a little time looking thru the catalogue, but really have NO business plan. This also explains why so many comic shops go out of business.
Comic retailers need to have a different focus for each different product. Monthly comics have to be treated different than trade paperbacks...than Magic Cards...than posters...than back issues...than everything else. The monthly comics are a perishable product, and there's a special give to be ahead of the curve when ordering. Ask a shop owner who does the ordering? Probably the owner, and maybe have the input of one or two part time employees. Of course they are going to want to order high on whatever they find interesting, plus whatever is on the pull lists. They aren't knowledgeable enough to order extras of many books "just in case".
Also, looking at the current Diamond catalogue, Dark Horse, Marvel, DC, monthly comics. Not trades, not offered again. Roughly 182 different titles offered in the catalogue. Total to buy ONE issue of each, $534.36 (Retail). That's a lot, even with the ordering discount, part of that discount is generally passed along to "pull club members". Again, this isn't even taking into account trades, magazines, toys, clothing, DVD's, etc.
Bottom line, most retailers are only buying heavy on what they KNOW will sell the fastest and most of.
My comic shop only orders one copy of FA each month...to put in my pull folder. Which suprises me because she told me that normally for every issue someone puts in their pull folder they'll order at least one more to put out on the floor for someone to pick up and buy.
My comic shop is just a small "mom and pop" company. I can understand them trying to save money, but how can they even begin to promote books when they only order enough of certain titles to fill their pull list orders?
Checked out issue 12 & enjoyed it so much I bought the trade, then issues 7-11 and now, well, I'm hooked, aren't I?
One of the many things I love about the series is the sense that Bete Noire's well of mystery goes deeper and deeper the farther in one goes.
Hopefully, DC will bang out a second trade soon, so as to keep drawing in dawdlers and Johnny-Come-Latelies like me...
While looking over the Diamond listings, I see they are already soliciting trade paperbacks of mini series that haven't even finished being published! Why buy the monthy issues of Marvel's "Witches" when you can pick up the entire story a month later?
I happen to be a fan of the trade paperbacks, but this instant releasing is going to be what ends up further wounding the market.
"I happen to be a fan of the trade paperbacks, but this instant releasing is going to be what ends up further wounding the market."
On the contrary, I think this is a good thing, at least for low selling, critically acclaimed series like FALLEN ANGEL, SLEEPER or RUNAWAYS. The faster a trade collection gets out, the more "I'll Wait For the Trade" folks will be presented with a choice as to whether check out the series in question.
In my opinion, comicbooksheaedz/collectors tend to "binge" on titles: I know I do if I get enthused about a title. This week, I picked up the FA trade, then the rest of the issues AND the RUNAWAYS small-sized trade and all those issues too (it was a good week for cashflow).
So having trades up to date may increase the changes of picking up new readers and might decrease the changes of cancellation for titles on the bubble. The slight downside is that places like Borders or Barnes & Nobles tend to get glutted by all of Marvel's product line, for example, not that there's anything wrong with maximizing Tpb sales (their trade dress does look a tad monotonous when lined up togather on several shelves).
Speaking of dealers, I recently had a curious revelation concerning the store I shop at. I have a title on my pull list from an independent company, but haven't seen an issue in years. I thought the book had been cancelled and/or the company had gone out of business (The title isn't even listed in Overstreet). The other day, however, I decided to look it up on the Internet on a whim, and found a review of a recent issue. What? It's still being published? Number 22? The last issue I saw was Number 8.
As you might expect, I called my store and talked to the owner. I wanted to see if he could order the back issues (and, of course, to find out why I hadn't been getting them). He told me he'd never _heard_ of the book. He also told me that they don't order books based on customer's pull lists (as my two previous stores had). Instead, they order certain books, and then pull copies from that order for customers who have those titles on their list. If a title on the list isn't among those already ordered, then nothing happens.
I'm sorry, but I just don't get that. I understand that a comic store owner can't get multiple copies of every independent title out there (let alone the Big Two), especially at $2.95 cover prices; but if a specific title is on a customer's list, then the logical assumption is that they _want_ it.
Before I go any further, let me just emphasize that the people at this store do their best to track down an extra copy when a particular issue somehow didn't get set aside for a customer who'd ordered it. They definitely seem interested in customer satisfaction, to the best of their ability.
That having been said, the question remains, why would you not order a copy of a specific title for a customer who requests it. My store carries "Fallen Angel", but as a hypothetical example, let's say they don't, and as it turns out, I am the _only_ customer to request it on a pull list. Obviously, they wouldn't order 20 copies, but why not order three? One-- the one I specifically requested-- is a guaranteed sale; the other two go on the shelf where a casual browser or PAD reader specifically looking for it can find it. If they like it, they add it to their lists, and the store can sell that many more copies each month. Not to mention, they might also get some new regular customers, who'll buy other books as well.
In addition to the independent title mentioned above, I read another one as well. A recent issue wasn't set aside for me, and my store owner tracked it down. He told me during our conversation that he'd stopped ordering it, because not enough people were buying it (I assume he means with the exception of my order, since he knows I want it, but I'd better double check that). That's his policy with independents in general. If someone has a title on their list that he's stopped ordering, and doesn't _tell_ him he specifically wants it, that customer is apparently out of luck.
Maybe I'm missing something, but if a store owner is ordering 10 copies of a title, and only selling one copy each month (to a customer who has it on their pull list), shouldn't he reduce the number of ordered copies to one (at least) instead of zero? Again, if it's _written down_ on the pull list, wouldn't that suggest the customer wants the owner to order that title if he doesn't already?
By the way, the back issues I missed? The store owner said he won't be able to get hold of them. Fortunately, they appear to be available directly from the publisher, as I discovered when I found that review. I can still get them at cover price (plus shipping), but because no one bothered to order a book I had requested on my pull list, I'll be buying them in one lump sum, instead of every month (or bi-monthly, whichever). To quote Marvin the Martian, "isn't that lovely?"
Rick
Just adding my name to the chorus that believes the book would sell better at Vertigo. After reading #12, I definitely believe that's where the book belongs.
Jeff,
Yes, to order everything is quite a bit. However, as noted before, if you are SELLING OUT, why not up the order conservatively, and take a chance that you will sell more?
I'm not saying a store should order 500 copies of, say, "Ultimate Fantastic Four #1" purely on spec. But if they are selling out of 100 copies a month, it only makes sense to up the order a bit. If the title is selling, then even if there FEW COPIES LEFT OVER they can be sold as back issues.
But, as you say, a huge part of the problem is that many stores are owned by people who are fans first, businessmen a distant second, if at all.
And how can you drum up support for a new/different book like "Fallen Angel" if you don't even have ONE copy on the shelves. That's insane.
I just picked up the TPB.Only started reading with the Black Mariah torture issues so i need backstory on Lee.Will post when i finish reading
but im sure i will enjoy it.
By the way not a regular reader of Capt Marvel(sorry) but the ending of #24 was very dark.
Jerome,
I agree totally. I was just making the point that there's so much product out there, if it's not a Spider, X, or Jim Lee book (today anyway), chances are it's going to be underordered or ignored by a lot of stores. In the case of Fallen Angel, DC needs to start pushing the book somehow. Either by house ads, moving the title to Vertigo, or some other means. Peter and his fan base are doing a lot, but getting the title of the book out and advertised in other books needs to be done. That's just one of the jobs of a publisher...advertising. Look at what they are missing by not pushing the fast that a best selling NOVEL writer is writing his own comic series. Not a limited series (we hope), but ongoing series!
Imagine a grocery store just stocking products the store owner likes. Think it would go out of business fast?
Random thought...Personally, I think DC/Time-Warner is losing a great opportunity to advertise on Cartoon Network. Yes, it's money from different pockets of the same overall company, but a simple 10 or 15 second ad around Teen Titans, or Justice League advertising the related comics, with the 1-800-COMICBOOK store locator number would do a lot for business. Vertigo titles and even Fallen Angel around the late night Adult Swim blocks, the DC young readers lines around the toons directed towards younger kids.
Well I have been a fan of yours for a long time. In my opinion no one can do Aquaman or the Hulk as well as you. Anyway I just picked up the trade for FA, and it was great! Next time I get to the shop I'm going to try to get 7-12, that is if my shop has it. Anyway keep up the good work, and I'll keep reading.
I have been lucky to have two good comic book/gaming stores here in Orlando. Other people aren't that good. Not only are some of these "genre stores" run by fans, they're also run by people without the slightest idea of what human courtesy or customer service means.
For example, the aforementioned stores supported various conventions in the area, even small ones. When my group ran a pilot convention in Miami, which hadn't had any, none of the stores would buy dealer space or carry flyers for the show. Their rationale: if they encouraged people to go to the convention, they wouldn't be in their stores buying their merchandise! It didn't matter that by showing support for a con, they might become better known - and they might be considered friends to the fans, not just people who wanted their money. They didn't care about the future of fandom; they wanted to make one more sale this weekend.
If that kind of comic book store business philosophy is common (and evidence suggests it is) no wonder the business is in trouble.
PAD - Yo mentioned in an interview or in some thread that you probably would continue the story of "Fallen Angel" as a novel series, IF the comic book got cancelled. Do you really consider this as an alternative? I can't imagine it in novel form, but I'm sure you could handle it somehow.
"Look at what they are missing by not pushing the fast that a best selling NOVEL writer is writing his own comic series."
Yeah, I think of that every time I see DC running an ad boasting a series is being written by (bum bum BUM) a "New York Times Bestseller Author." Well, I fall in that category. "Eisner award winner?" Me again. "Wizard Award," "CBG Award," check, double check. But you wouldn't know it from the advertising.
PAD
Now, I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I kinda scratch my head every time someone says "this should be a Vertigo title!" My response is...what difference would that make? It's not as if Vertigo titles, other than possibly Y: The Last Man, gets major promotion (look at Seaguy...that book popped onto the shelves without me even knowing it existed). Outside of house ads in their own books, I don't see much Vertigo promotion.
As I said, I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I do have to ask: what's the criteria for suggesting Vertigoization is the way to go for FA? Am I missing something obvious, and if so, I'd love to be convinced otherwise.
I would think the major advantage of becoming a Vertigo title would be potential audience perspective. Titles under the Vertigo umbrella are seen as "hipper" and more adult (not necessarily meaning sex filled). A regular DC comic has the perspective of male characters in long underwear beating each other up month after month.
I would think the major advantage of becoming a Vertigo title would be potential audience perspective. Titles under the Vertigo umbrella are seen as "hipper" and more adult (not necessarily meaning sex filled). A regular DC comic has the perspective of male characters in long underwear beating each other up month after month.
Maybe PAD would be better served in trying to get the title moved to Marvel.
Not that that's likely in this case, but atleast Marvel is making an effort at advertising online, with MHC having full-issue previews on a consistent basis now.
Unfortunately, however, all the issues previewed online by MHC so far are Big Name Titles, like X-Men and Daredevil.
Maybe I'll drop them an email about trying to get previews for the lesser known titles; titles like X-Men don't need advertising.
Jeff,
Good idea about the cartoons and capitalizing on them by advertising either during or immediately after them.
In fact, it was an idea I had, and I asked Joe Quesada about it last year. He basically said that Marvel would obviously love to advertise their comics during "X-Men: Evolution" or "The Hulk" or the super-cool "Spider-Man" animated series on MTV.
Unfortunately, their hands (and DC's, Image's, CrossGen's, etc.) are tied, because an asinine law is on the books stating they CAN'T do that.
Seems that back in the'80s, the "G.I.Joe" cartoon was very hot, and they had a brief 5-10 second ad advertising the "G.I. Joe" comic, which resulted in surprisingly high sales. People forget how popular "G.I. Joe" actually was. There were spinoffs, a reprint series, one-shots. Everything.
Unfortunately, a bunch of idiot parents were upset that their kids were basically begging to get them "G.I.Joe" comics after watching the cartoon. So many, that a Federal law was passed prohibiting such synergistic advertising.
To this day, I still have people who think this was a good thing! Hey, they stood up to "corporate greed"! Hey, they can beg their parents for a Happy Meal instead:)
As if they couldn't just tell their kids know, and as if getting them to want to READ something is a bad thing.
I feel this law is an absolute joke, and only hurts the comic industry. I would love to see it repealed. But I don't think that's a high priority this election season.
So that's a big reason why the comic industry hasn't been able to take full advantage of the mainstream successes they've had.
Thomas E. Reed,
What you just described is a perfect example of what's wrong with the industry. Unfortunately, unless we get more intelligent businessmen running comic shops, or opening up new ones, not much will change, unfortunately.
In Germany Bongo Comics advertises their Simpsons Comics in the break of the TV show. It's a bestselling comic here for years.
Pascal,
Bingo!
Unfortunately in America, Soccer Moms and Dads and opportunistic politicians feel a need to protect kids from....getting something to read!
Finished the TPB of Fallen Angel in what felt like no time but realize i needed to go bed so i didnt post comments.I got some of my questions on Lee answered but got some more created for me.
The city of Bete Noir to quote Dr Juris "is important in a karmic sense."Are we talking in the sense of a butterfly flapping its wings creating storms somewhere else or in the sense of the city being a parable for the world around it??
I know understand the Order and Chaos relationship mentioned in one of the later stories.Juris maintains the order of things but at what compromise and what cost?Lee just kinda throws a monkey in his wrench at times or does he want (need ) her to do that?
Again i apologize for not reading the Supergirl series ,so many references others get to Lee and PAD's Supergirl escape me.Are there TPB's of those comics and which ones are recommended??
Lee kinda gives me an old Jean Grey/Phoenix feel.Maybe its the red hair:).Its just seems she has done something that she and apparently others feel she needs to serve penance for.Like Jean with the whole Dark Phoenix killing a star system thing.
How much of her abilities are physical??She appears tough but can bleed,is vulnerable to drugs ,hitting her is like "punching concrete",the telekinetic blast ,super strength,(speed??),and other talents lead me to believe more of her talents are mental in nature.She's a bad ass but maybe she uses mental force to give herself a boost physically and some of her speed may be the old Foreigner trick .
Anyway ,I love the books and am sorry I was not reading from the start.
Funny that i was just thinking about how they hype a book written by bestselling author( fill in the blank) but dont do the same for PAD as i was reading other posts.
By the way love the artwork and why do i find Black Mariah sexy???:)
Just a thought PAD ,have you ever considered trying to get Fallen angel on TV?? .WITCHBLADE seemed to do well for TNT.Maybe that could be a future idea.My suggestions would be either FX or
TNT.Dina meyer(Dragon heart,Starship Troopers,Birds of Prey) could play Lee.I got a thing for Dina Meyer so ...so sue me.
"Dina meyer(Dragon heart,Starship Troopers,Birds of Prey) could play Lee.I got a thing for Dina Meyer so ...so sue me."
Actually I know exactly who I'd want to see playing Lee: Mya. Her face looks exactly the way Dave draws her in the book, she moves with cat-like grace and elegance (as we saw in "Chicago") and I like her voice.
PAD
Mya ....Dude, she is gorgeous!!!!Okay you win your suggestion is better than mine ,besides you created her after all:)
Okay, maybe this is a more appropriate board for this, though it's still a bit OT: I'm watchign Keira Knightly on Leno now, and she talked about the blue war paint her character wears in King Arthur, referring to it as "woad." I didn't realize that was a real thing. I thought it was an element in the Apropos universe that he made up for The Woad to Wuin. Guess you learn something new every day.
I wrote a review for issue 4 way back when, just thought you'd like it for your scrapbook:
http://www.411mania.com/comics/reviews/article.php?reviews_id=2029
Well, I picked up issues 7-12 of FA and they were also great! The funny thing about it is that my roommate hates anything that's D.C. and doesn't say vertigo on the cover, and he loves the book also!I'm also trying to get my friend who mediates the message board for the comic shop I frequent(groundzerocomics.com) to read FA.
Oh,incidentally I missed you at Aggiecon in 2002, the day I was there you were only signing autographs in a small room with a line backed out the door. That's ok, I carried my copies of Aquaman #1, Supergirl #1, and Incredible Hulk #333 over and sat down with Marv Wolfman and talked the day away. Oh well, maybe next time.