The Last Debate of the 2016 USA Presidential Race

Kath here. For about the first hour or so this will be Caroline and me. I will try to delineate between us with a K for me and a C for her.

I am hoping that comments will post in a timely fashion. Usually I am on the approval of comments if something gets ‘stuck’ while Peter is typing so I am asking for your patience in this endeavor. I will approve when I have the time to do so.

9:02 so podiums back no chairs visible

(:04 Rules? There are Rules? Let’s see if anyone sticks to them,

9:04 Supreme Court good topic to start with

9:06 I agree that it should represent all of us but that does include the powerful. Nice touch to point out the roadblock against Obama’s nominee.

9:08 He’s going after Ginzberg? Why? She apologized.

9:09 C-Is he threatening violence? K- We have MORE than one amendment to the constitution.

9:10 She is being reasonable and not changing her stand on gun control. Good.

9:12 Angry? He is trying to pull buzz words out of his ášš to make her look bad.

9:14 K-Chicago? Why is he going after Chicago? Is it the only city that the murder rate went up?

9:15 He just said it out loud. Not happy at all with that. Back to the States? Is he really saying that?

9:17 Boy this is a touchy subject. And the Drumph is trying to make her look as bad as possible. C-Did he listen to her? To what she said? Does he ever listen? K-No

9:19 Immigration is up next

9:21 He is trotting this chestnut? Please. Strong borders? C-Heroin? Really? Pouring?

9:22 c-A wall won’t stop drugs. They can always dig under like they did in Mexico

9:23 Oooo she is bring logic into his plan

9:24 Caroline is very much against deportation and has been yelling at the TV

9:25 What wall? What is he talking about? Oh thanks Hillary for clarifying his words

(credit to the moderator to keeping Drumph from going on)

9:26 K- I am about to nope out of this. What world is he living in?

9:28 Good for Hillary to point out that the soundbite was not complete.

9:29 Please not Wikileaks and the Russians Oh crap. Why are we going on about this?

9:30 Good for the moderator to keep Drumph in some sort of order

9:30 back to Putin again. What the hëll is he talking about?

9:31 K- She’s not a puppet. Take it from a puppeteer

Now the moderator is losing control. Get it back.

OK who had 9:33 as when Drumph would take over the conversation?

9:33 He is repeating himself again. He has something he wants to say and he is avoiding the question.

9:34 C- She’s right and you are wrong

9:35 His pedigree? What does this have to do with nukes?

9: 36 Thank God! Economy

9:38 She has trotted out her plan that has not changed since she presented it. She has this pretty much down.

And Peter is home. More than happy to hand it over to him.

9:40: The good news is, we won all three games. So that’s good The bad news is, the debates are still going on. So it’s downhill from here.

9:41: When the hëll is he going to stop bìŧçhìņg about NAFTA?!?!

9:41: CAROLINE–Does he realize that Clinton was the president who helped bring the country out of debt? The Bush presidency then squandered it.

9:42: She’s saying what Caroline just said. Caroline wants to be president. She’s on her way.

9:44: KATHLEEN–Could he have any more of a pouty mouth?

9:46: “Chris, I’d like to phone a friend.”

9:47: Hillary looks extremely pìššëd with him. She looks like she wants to slap him.

9:47: ANSWER THE ÐÃMNÊÐ QUESTION YOU JAG OFF.

9:48: Perfect.

9:48: She didn’t let Wallace or Trump interrupt her.

9:49: Is he KIDDING?! He says that it’s okay for him to be a hypocrite, to talk about making everything in America while acquiring and building things in other countries, and it’s HER fault? It’s HER fault that he’s a dìçk?!

9:50: Ðámņëd right. Go Hillary.

9:51: No, it was a $14 million loan, and he wants to run this country the way he runs his companies: into the ground.

9:52: Yes, Obama created a huge vacuum by going into Iraq and killing Saddam Hussein…oh. Wait.

9:53: They’re all totally false? He didn’t know these women? Jesus Christ. Or HER CAMPAIGN??

9:54: HER campaign is encouraging people to start fights? Is he INSANE?

9:54: Yes, he DID say that. He said it repeatedly.

9:55: I’m waiting for her to say, “Have you no decency, sir? At long last, have you no sense of decency?”

9:55: HAAHAAHAHAHHHAAAAAA!

9:56: Seriously? He says he molests women, they come forward and say, “Yes, he did,” and he BLAMES Hillary for that?

9:57: Kathleen may have to leave the room because her blood pressure is skyrocketing.

9:58: WRONG?! We SAW HIM mock the reporter! Good lord! He is completely off the rails. Does he think that everyone in America has short term memory issues?

9:59: How in God’s name did she cause the violence?

10:01: One at a time.

10:02: Hmm. It’s an interesting point. I wonder how she’ll respond.

10:03: She’s kind of side stepping it, but the fact remains that the Clinton Foundation does great work.

10:04: And she’s back on the offense.

10:05: And once again he blames his tax dodging on her. And she can’t change the law as a senator because changes to tax laws originate from the House, you moron.

10:06: Jesus. He won’t even agree with his running mate and daughter that he will accept the election. This man is more than just a terrible candidate. He is a threat to democracy.

10:09: KATHLEEN: So he says that basically the reason he’s an áššhølë is that it’s Hillary’s fault.

10:10: She is REALLY pìššëd. I’ve never heard her talking so sharply. Can’t blame her.

10:13: He really doesn’t seem to understand how the government works. Is he remotely capable of answering a question without using it as an opportunity to attack Clinton? I mean, does he understand that she’s answering the questions and he isn’t?

10:14: KATHLEEN: Before anyone is allowed to run for President, they should be required to take the test that anyone who wants to become a US citizen is required to take to prove they know how the government works.

10:15: He’s thirty seconds over.

10:16: If you take a shot every time he says “Wrong” you’d die of alcohol poisoning.

10:17: Please let Mr. Trump interrupt you.

10:18: Yeah, Donald, quoting Bernie was a big mistake because it gave her a HUGE opportunity that she just used.

10:19: Also, I understand that Hillary was responsible for JFK being assassinated and she also betrayed Christ.

10:21: I don’t drink, but I may start.

10:21: God, I want to watch “South Park.”

10:25: Tremendous jobs? What would those be exactly?

10:26: Alcohol poisoning on the word “tremendous” also.

10:26: KATHLEEN: He wants to to back to the 1950s where women were subservient and white men had all the power.

10:28: She managed to take a huge broadside at Trump and she’s also answering the question. Excellent.

10:29: We’ve heard all your BS before too, Donald.

10:30: Oh my God. Wallace is talking about Medicare and Trump responds by wanting to dump Obamacare?

10:31: Yes, Donald, you’ve said this before. And it has nothing to do with the question.

10:32: “Such a nasty woman?” I’m amazed Bill doesn’t stride up on stage and deck him.

10:34: She is so positive and he is so negative. Let’s see if he can be positive for once.

10:35: Nope. He can’t. Why did I even ask?

10:36: Thank God. It’s over. I’m going to crack open a bottle of scotch.

102 comments on “The Last Debate of the 2016 USA Presidential Race

  1. The media has given you so much free publicity…
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    “Millions of people registered to vote that shouldn’t be.”
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    These would be the ones he was saying a week or so ago were illegal aliens that the Border Patrol were ordered to let stay so they could vote for Hillary?”

  2. Well, MOSTLY free and fair elections – there HAVE been a few years… (Not all that recently, to be fair)

  3. So he says that basically the reason he’s an áššhølë is that it’s Hillary’s fault.

    Has to be. Nothing’s ever HIS fault.

  4. 10:14 And now he’s not answering the question about Mosul, instead using the question as an opportunity to attack Hilary.

  5. “I’m gonna blame her for ISIS again.”
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    “I’m not gonna answer the question you actually asked me.”
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    Of course, under a Trump (Mis) Administration, all of our military operations are gonna be surprises because he won’t know what he’s gonna do more than ten seconds before he does it.

  6. Trump is a complete disgrace to Americas. And he’s going to get tens of millions of votes.

    Thanks, GOP.

    1. Does he think that everyone in America has short term memory issues?
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      Not every one, but certainly nearly enough people do. I mean, FFS, W got a 2nd term *after* he dragged us to Iraq for fun and profit.

  7. For the love of God…
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    Someone force Trump to watch the dámņëd US government cartoons from Schoolhouse Rock.

  8. 9:54: HER campaign is encouraging people to start fights? Is he INSANE?
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    Some idiot on Facebook tried to argue that Trump “never incited violence at his rallies, on the contrary, the only people who’ve committed acts of violence at his rallies were anti-trump protestors.” I responded with a list of sourced examples of Trump and his supporters inciting, encouraging or committing violence, telling the guy on Facebook:
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    What about the the footage taken at a March event in North Carolina of that yahoo in the cowboy hat, John McGraw, elbow protestor Rakeem Jones, who was already being willingly led out of a venue by police, without resistance, later telling the press, “Next time we see him, we might have to kill him!”, or that following McGraw’s arrest and being charged by police with assault and battery and disorderly conduct, how Trump said he would look into paying McGraw’s legal fees?
    (Sources:
    http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/03/13/donald-trump-john-mcgraw-legal-fees-punch-orig-vstan-dlewis.cnn
    http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/will-donald-trump-pay-supporter-s-legal-fees-643448899613)
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    What about the rally in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina, in which Trump singled out MSNBC/NBC reporter Katy Tur, because he didn’t like the fact that she previously reported how protests caused him to leave the stage at an earlier rally, and when he didn’t get the “apology” he demanded from her, singled her out at the rally, pointing his finger at her and calling her “Little Katy”, causing the crowd to turn on her, and requiring the Secret Service to escort her to her car?
    (Source: http://www.marieclaire.com/politics/a21997/donald-trump-katy-tur/)
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    Or how about that rally in St. Louis, Missouri, on March 11, when Trump bemoaned the fact that there were no longer “consequences” to protesting and insisted the “country has to toughen up”, saying, “You know, part of the problem and part of the reason it takes so long is nobody wants to hurt each other anymore, right?” Didn’t hear about that, didja, Jade?
    (Sources: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trump-violence-speech-nomination_uk_579141dbe4b0e3583c78dac1
    http://www.vox.com/2016/3/12/11211846/donald-trump-violence-rallies)
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    Or what about that rally in early March in Michigan, in which Trump said of a protester being led away, “Try not to hurt him. If you do, I’ll defend you in court, don’t worry about it.”?
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    Or the Las Vegas rally in late February, in which a protester was being removed from the premises, and Trump lamented, “We’re not allowed to punch back anymore”, and reminisced about the “old days,” when a protester would “be carried out on a stretcher”?
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    Or what about the Birmingham campaign event in November in which a Black Lives Matter was kicked, punched and called “ņìggër”, and Trump expressed his approval, saying, “Maybe he should have been roughed up because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing.”
    (Source for all three of these: http://mashable.com/2016/03/12/trump-rally-incite-violence/#C8sGAixspiqk)
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    What about the October 2015 event in Miami in which Trump said of a group of protesters, “See, the first group, I was nice. “Oh, take your time. The second group, I was pretty nice. The third group, I’ll be a little more violent.”
    (Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/10/23/donald-trump-repeatedly-interrupted-by-protesters-during-rowdy-miami-rally/)
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    What about the December 2015 campaign rally in Las Vegas, in which demonstrators were physically dragged out of his event by security, and one Trump supporters yelled as one man was dragged away, “Shoot him!” “Kick his ášš,” and “Light the møŧhërfûçkër on fire!”, and another shouted, “Sieg heil!”, and yet another, “He’s a Muslim!” another man said. “He’s a Muslim!”?
    (Source: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-audience-member-yells-nazi-salute-protester-removed-las-vegas-n480056)
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    What about Trump supporter Emirjeta Xhelili, who was arrested in New York after she yelled Islamophobic slurs at two Muslim women walking their children near her Brooklyn home, screaming at them, “Get the fûçk out of here…Get the fûçk out of America, bìŧçhëš…This is America — you shouldn’t be different from us”, punching the two women in their faces, attempting to rip off their hijabs, and attempting to knock over the stroller that contained a 15-month-old baby, continuing to taunt them while in police custody, and resulting in a judge issuing an order of protection barring her from further contact with her victims?
    (Source: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/bigot-ripping-muslim-women-hijabs-hateful-attack-article-1.2785475)
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    What about the two brothers in Boston who beat a homeless Latino man with a metal pole, breaking his nose and then urinating on him, one of them later stating that he was inspired by Trump? Or the fact that Trump himself, when asked about it, said that his fans are “passionate”.
    (Source: http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2015/08/brothers_charged_after_savage_attack_on_homeless_man)
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    What about the two Muslim and Hispanic students in Kansas who were violently attacked by a man who made racist threats and warned them Donald Trump would win the election, calling them “brown trash”, telling them, “Go home. Trump will win,” and later getting back on his motorcycle and circling them saying, ‘Trump, Trump, Trump — we will make America great again. You losers will be thrown out of the wall”?
    (Source: http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article65903602.html)
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    What about the March event in Janesville, Wisconsin in which a Trump supporter groped a 15-year-old girl, and when she pushed him away, a second Trump supporter sprayed her with pepper spray, while a third man wearing a Trump T-shirt shouted at her, “You gøddámņ communist ņìggër-løvër, get out of here!”?
    (Source: https://thinkprogress.org/police-donald-trump-supporters-grope-pepper-spray-15-year-old-girl-at-wisconsin-rally-9ef134c5e0e2#.b0bzley1u)
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    What about the protest in front of Trump Tower on October 13, in which a Trump bodyguard sucker-punched a Latino man after snatching his sign from his hands?
    (Source: http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/03/guard-for-donald-trump-hits-protester/)
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    What about Trump advisor Al Baldasaro, who said that Clinton should be shot for treason because she—get this—used a private email server? Shot for using a private email server?
    http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-trump-advisor-clarifies-calls-for-1471378277-htmlstory.html

    1. Since sociopathy is a mental illness, yes. Insane. He can’t see the world in any way other than through the filter of his sickness.

  9. “Russkies doing Bad Things in Aleppo? No! Hillary’s fault!”
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    I love the way he gets … low-voiced and earnest … as he tells the biggest lies.
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    “And ISIS is her fault, and it lets her bring in all those terrorists from Syria.”
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    and BENGHAZI! and E-MAIL!

  10. And he wants us to believe that HE wouldn’t send in the troops and get us involved in an air war in Syria on about January twenty-third?

  11. I think Chris Wallace has the broken microphone, as his voice is coming through C-Span.org at a noticeably lower volume than Trump or Clinton.

    Does anybody else hear it this way?

  12. As I said the other day…
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    “Mr. Trump, how are you going to do this thing you’ve said you’re going to do?”
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    “Well, you know, I’m going to… You know, they keep saying this cant be done. They’ve said… I’m telling I’m going to do it. It;s gonna be huge, folks. It’s going to be so great, believe me. You will have never seen anything like this. See, I’m going to… You know, all these other guys… They all attacked me. They spent so much money attacking me. I’ve never seen so many people spend so much money to attack just one guy. Me? I’ve barely spent any money. Jeb attacked me, Christie attacked me, Little Marco attacked me… They… I’m a counter-puncher, see… I don’t need to spend money like that. They hit me and I hit back. They all said I couldn’t win. They said I couldn’t win in this state and in that state and in this other state, but I won. It’s a movement, folks. There’s never been anything like it. They said it can’t be done, but they said I can’t win. I’m going to win and win big, and then I’ll win big in November against Hillary and that’s how we’re gonna do it, folks.”

  13. Trump has the cold massive clanging brass doohickeys to make a remark about “We’ve heard all this before, Hillary”?

  14. “Such a nasty woman?” I’m amazed Bill doesn’t stride up on stage and deck him.

    Well, Trump better stay out of dark alleys…

  15. 10:36: Thank God. It’s over. I’m going to crack open a bottle of scotch.
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    Luigi Novi: Great idea, Caroline. And after that, pass it along to your mom, because she could probably use some too.

  16. Kudos to Hilary for listing all (some?) of the times Trump claimed he lost because something was rigged, from the Republican primaries (though only the ones he lost) to not enough Emmys for The Celebrity Apprentice. I’m sure if/when Hilary wins the election, anyone listening to Trump’s “concession” speech would die from alcohol poisoning if they took a shot every time Trump uses the words “rigged,” “corrupt,” or “crooked.”

    And kudos to PAD for winning all three games. Bowl on!

  17. “If you take a shot every time he says “Wrong” you’d die of alcohol poisoning.”

    Sums this up nicely—I’ve had to double one of my BP meds since this started

  18. Sorry, but can only read the first page of comments. The older comments button goes to the previous blcg post…

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